The hatred of Jews

[Yahshua]

Edomites as a people are long since gone. Have no idea where you came up with this. The people in Israel are Jews. They were murdered in the Holocaust for being JEWS. They are being murdered now for being JEWS. Funny how some of you need DNA proof a Jew is Jew enough to be in Israel, yet Hitler murdered millions of them with no such proof. You all are unreal. The people in Israel are Jews, period!

You sound like you're trying to convince yourself more so than me. Stating something emphatically doesn't make it true. Supportive facts verify the truth.

How many different proofs do you need to believe the truth, sister? I've shared with you:

- their encyclopedia detailing they are edomites
- dna research
- historic records
- multiple biblical passages
- testimony from identified "Jews" who are not afraid to share the truth
- multiple historical newspapers showing their lies about millions being murdered by Hitler
- videos of their own barbaric actions

...and then there's your own ingrained morals that prick your heart *knowing* that murdering innocent children is wrong.


Here's a recording of their soldiers using a flying drone to play an audio file of a baby crying at night just to lure any random Palestinian out of their shelter to kill them. I mean they're not even hiding their evil anymore.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTo4NF4/

And just recently there was another news story of another drone blowing kids into pieces while they were playing at an already destroyed playground at a shelter. They're literally targeting kids...unless they believe that Hamas was hiding under a pant leg?

Do you believe God was in such an act? Or is it justified?

They are liars and satan's chosen people, and the tragedy here is this all plays right into satan's hands because if the Christian and Western world blindly support these as The Almighty's chosen people then the testimony sent to the secular world is that The Almighty is evil or nonexistent. No souls will be won.

 

[Nehemiah6]

...*knowing* that murdering innocent children is wrong.

Tell that to the Democrats. Now abortion is the primary platform of these evil people. But when there is a war, the innocent suffer as much as any others. That includes women and children. Does Hamas care about Palestinian children or does it use them as human shields? How come you are not asking these tough questions?

But the blame must go entirely to the Islamist terrorists. Hamas attacked Israel without any provocation. Israel had no choice except to respond with force. And Iran was directly behind that attack. And Joe Biden was directly behind Iran. So do you want to assign blame? Assign it to Biden, who has also made abortion his main platform (even though that is plain stupidity).

 

[Yahshua]

Tell that to the Democrats. Now abortion is the primary platform of these evil people. But when there is a war, the innocent suffer as much as any others. That includes women and children. Does Hamas care about Palestinian children or does it use them as human shields? How come you are not asking these tough questions?

But the blame must go entirely to the Islamist terrorists. Hamas attacked Israel without any provocation. Israel had no choice except to respond with force. And Iran was directly behind that attack. And Joe Biden was directly behind Iran. So do you want to assign blame? Assign it to Biden, who has also made abortion his main platform (even though that is plain stupidity).

What's this sleight of hand, Nehemiah? You went from Hamas and Israel to Biden and abortion.

But here's an ex-Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, on record claiming that Netanyahu funded Hamas for years.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRw1B1BM/

So if Biden was directly behind Iran, Netanyahu was directly behind Hamas.

 

[Mem]

Observation - Muslim Influx:

In the past few months, there seem to be a lot of Muslims who've joined the forum, doing "gentle" apologetics for Islam, while pretending to be Christians... so we won't kick them out.

How to recognize them?
1.) These new Muslims are subtle on doctrine: subtly, gently questioning the doctrines of Christ, and of the resurrection. Subtly sowing little seeds of doubt.
2.) They are subtle yet clearly biased toward Islam: they always speak highly of Muslims, and the Koran... and less highly of Christians and the Bible.
3.) They have no subtlety on Israel: they join all threads dealing with Israel and Palestine... and always side against the Jews, who they accuse, of course, of atrocities.

How do we tell them from the "progressives" and "liberals' on the forum?
1.) There are progressives here who also side against Israel, and who dislike the Bible, and who don't like traditional Christianity.. but they're different.
2.) A few differences:
a. The progressives speak more naturally and less stilted, like English is their first language.
b. They are NOT well versed in the Koran, and don't try so hard to defend it.
c. They do NOT have much first-hand knowledge of the middle east, or of Islam.
d. The progressives are generally just angry and loud, while the Muslims tend to be more knowledgeable and subtle.


Be wise.

,

.... if it were possible.

That the word 'were' is used in this clause in subjunctive mood rather than indicative of 'what is' or 'is not' offers me much comfort as it expresses a hypothetical situation or fantasized reality.

These are just dreamers.

Isaiah 29
5But your many foes will be like fine dust,
the multitude of the ruthless like blowing chaff.
Then suddenly, in an instant,

6you will be visited by the LORD of Hosts
with thunder and earthquake and loud noise,
with windstorm and tempest and consuming flame of fire.

7All the many nations
going out to battle against Ariel—
even all who war against her,
laying siege and attacking her—
will be like a dream,
like a vision in the night,

8as when a hungry man dreams he is eating,
then awakens still hungry;
as when a thirsty man dreams he is drinking,
then awakens faint and parched.
So will it be for all the many nations
who go to battle against Mount Zion.

 

[PennEd]

I don't claim to be wiser than anyone but I'll answer.

Biblically, no. The state doesn't have a biblical right to exist.

1. The name Israel was given to Ephraim, not Judah, by Jacob on his deathbed. This is why when the kingdom split the southern kingdom became known as Judah. So even if they were Jews gathered together in the land, without the northen house they are in violation. It should be the State of Judah.

2. The Messiah is the king, the Holy One; The Government of Israel as true Israel is a Theocracy, not a democracy. So without Him, any other "Israel" is illegitimate.

3. Prophesy: Israel would not be regathered until AFTER the Messiah returns and regathers them. This is a literal event with the Person of the Godhead here, not an allegorical or spiritual fulfillment where world events play out to make it so. Scripture is clear.

4. Prophecy: The reestablishment will not be with strength or (military) might but with the Spirit of Almighty. And it will immediately follow the resurrection, because scripture is clear that all Israel returns home at once, together; both houses.

5. Prophecy: They are punished for rejecting the Messiah and breaking the commandments: kicked out of the land, lose their identity, and cursed to worship gods of wood and stone (by the way, the Kaaba stone of Islam is a stone surrounded by wood) until they repent from the things that kicked them out. They will not be healed and regathered until they return to the Almighty with all their hearts.

6. Prophecy: Once true Israel is in the land there will be peace, as they live in "unwalled villages". They will not be building partitions constantly. And they will not be warring with anyone.

So no the current state of Israel has no legitimacy or right to the land. It's not a work of the Almighty but of the god of this world. satan deceives the whole world.

NOW I remember why it's such a fruitless endeavor to engage Scripture with you!

You are the author of such awful heresies as THIS:

Yahshua
Senior Member
#6
"Salvation (Justification) isn't the same as eternal life (Glorification). Eternal life is the reward for the work one does to build on the foundation that is the Messiah."



You do not believe in the finished work of our Lord, Jesus Christ. You believe YOUR works give you Eternal Life. This in effect tramples on the Blood of Christ.

So if you are SOOOO wrong on that vital doctrine, there is no sense to talk about other Biblical issues.

 

[Yahshua]

Thanks for your first reply. I mean the verses that mention the two witnesses in Jerusalem, Revelation 11...The gathering of the nations to the valley of Megiddo in Rev 16:16

Just like with Daniel, John was given a series of visions that detailed different aspects of the same general timeframe (future to him). I've tried to visualize it in the table above. Each new vision is marked by a phrase similar to "and lo I saw..." and generally ends with "thunders and hail and lightning; it is done".

- Chapters 4-11 are a progressive vision of heaven's throne through to the judgment of earth from their perspective.
- Chapters 12-16 are a progressive vision and the actions of the enemies of God from Earth's POV through to their judgment.
- Chapters 17-18 are visions detailing the great harlot, the beast, the bride, and the judgment of God's enemies.

Certain events are summarized while more detail of those same events is given in other portions. So chapter 11 summarizes the events detailed in chapters 13-16, and chapters 17-20 provide even more detail of events in chapters 13-16.

To your question:

I believe Chapter 11 isn't the gathering of the nations against God's people, rather the chapter prophesies the persecution and then scattering of God's people into the Christian nations under Catholicism spanning 1,260 years. The two witnesses are the remnant of the two houses of Israel who are obedient to The Almighty and who have faith in the Messiah.

- Chapter 10 gives us a description of a mighty messenger standing on the earth and the sea saying "There is no more delay!" This is a callback to Daniel 12:7 where the man in linen, standing in a similar location, lifted up His hands and said the time of great trouble wouldn't be for some time, but that when the people are scattered the time of trouble would be completed.

- Chapter 11 gives the timeframe 1260 days for the testimony of the two witnesses
- Chapter 13 gives the same timeframe of 42 months when the beast of the sea abuses the saints
- Recorded history confirms that it took about nearly 1300 years to scatter God's people.

And most importantly, this:

Zechariah 14:

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

The ye who are fleeing are Israelites, because its talking about how they fled in the past during the days of king Uzziah.
So clearly there are some Israelites there.

Sure. we have Zech 14:4 that reads:

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.


^ Clearly this is the physical presence of God, but when is it? Well, we're given another clue in verse 8:


8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.


^ The day verse 4 happens is the same day living waters flow out of Jerusalem. There are two passages I recall that mention living waters flowing out of Jerusalem:


Revelation 22:1-2
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city.


Ezekiel 47:1-12
The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east)...


So both passages mark the timing of this water-flowing event as after the Gog-Magog war of Revelation 21, which is after the millennium reign of Revelation 20...and The Millennium Reign of Revelation 20 is after the resurrection.

So per Revelation's order, the nations do not gather together against Jerusalem until after the resurrection and 1000-year reign.

Likewise, the Ezekiel 47 event is after the fiery destruction of the nations by the Almighty in Ezekiel 39, which is after Gog & Magog is tempted to attack Jerusalem at peace in Ezekiel 38, which is after the resurrection and regathering event described in Ezekiel 37.

Again, we know that the resurrection and the millennium reign haven't happened in human history, so Zechariah 14:1-4 isn't describing the current events in the Middle East. The resurrection happens before the nations gather together against Jerusalem.

Thus Zechariah 14:3-4 describes The Almighty descending to earth to destroy the nations with fire after the millennium, it doesn't describe The Messiah's 2nd coming.


Ezekiel 37-47
- Messiah returns, resurrects, and regathers His people
- United Israel returns home
- They live in peace in unwalled villages
- Gog & Magog are tempted to attack
- The Almighty destroys them (Zech 14:3-7)
- The Great Temple
- The river of life flows out of it

Revelation 19-22
- Messiah returns, regathers His people
- Destruction of the beast and his army
- The Millenium reign
- The Gog & Magog nations surround the camp of God's people
- The Almighty destroys them (Zech 14:3-7)
- New Jerusalem
- The river of life flows out of it

 

[Yahshua]

NOW I remember why it's such a fruitless endeavor to engage Scripture with you!

You are the author of such awful heresies as THIS:

Yahshua
Senior Member
#6
"Salvation (Justification) isn't the same as eternal life (Glorification). Eternal life is the reward for the work one does to build on the foundation that is the Messiah."



You do not believe in the finished work of our Lord, Jesus Christ. You believe YOUR works give you Eternal Life. This in effect tramples on the Blood of Christ.

So if you are SOOOO wrong on that vital doctrine, there is no sense to talk about other Biblical issues.

1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


PennEd, what's wild is I can post passages like ^this^ with no commentary and then ask what it says...and yet some would still accuse me of having the wrong doctrine or somehow manipulating the passage. The scriptures are replete with the same message. There's a reason we all don't instantaneously take on immortality upon confession. We have to build on the foundation. After salvation, we have to participate.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The name Israel was given to Ephraim, not Judah, by Jacob on his deathbed.

Really? Yet "Jacob" and "Israel" are used for the twelve tribes interchangeably in Scripture. And even though only three tribes were present in the province of Judah, that is still called "Israel". While speaking of Judah Christ Himself called it "Israel". See Matthew 8:10, 9:33, 10:6,23; 15:24. etc.

 

[Slimsumo]

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Just like with Daniel, John was given a series of visions that detailed different aspects of the same general timeframe (future to him). I've tried to visualize it in the table above. Each new vision is marked by a phrase similar to "and lo I saw..." and generally ends with "thunders and hail and lightning; it is done".

- Chapters 4-11 are a progressive vision of heaven's throne through to the judgment of earth from their perspective.
- Chapters 12-16 are a progressive vision and the actions of the enemies of God from Earth's POV through to their judgment.
- Chapters 17-18 are visions detailing the great harlot, the beast, the bride, and the judgment of God's enemies.

Certain events are summarized while more detail of those same events is given in other portions. So chapter 11 summarizes the events detailed in chapters 13-16, and chapters 17-20 provide even more detail of events in chapters 13-16.

To your question:

I believe Chapter 11 isn't the gathering of the nations against God's people, rather the chapter prophesies the persecution and then scattering of God's people into the Christian nations under Catholicism spanning 1,260 years. The two witnesses are the remnant of the two houses of Israel who are obedient to The Almighty and who have faith in the Messiah.

- Chapter 10 gives us a description of a mighty messenger standing on the earth and the sea saying "There is no more delay!" This is a callback to Daniel 12:7 where the man in linen, standing in a similar location, lifted up His hands and said the time of great trouble wouldn't be for some time, but that when the people are scattered the time of trouble would be completed.

- Chapter 11 gives the timeframe 1260 days for the testimony of the two witnesses
- Chapter 13 gives the same timeframe of 42 months when the beast of the sea abuses the saints
- Recorded history confirms that it took about nearly 1300 years to scatter God's people.




Sure. we have Zech 14:4 that reads:

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.


^ Clearly this is the physical presence of God, but when is it? Well, we're given another clue in verse 8:


8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.


^ The day verse 4 happens is the same day living waters flow out of Jerusalem. There are two passages I recall that mention living waters flowing out of Jerusalem:


Revelation 22:1-2
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city.


Ezekiel 47:1-12
The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east)...


So both passages mark the timing of this water-flowing event as after the Gog-Magog war of Revelation 21, which is after the millennium reign of Revelation 20...and The Millennium Reign of Revelation 20 is after the resurrection.

So per Revelation's order, the nations do not gather together against Jerusalem until after the resurrection and 1000-year reign.

Likewise, the Ezekiel 47 event is after the fiery destruction of the nations by the Almighty in Ezekiel 39, which is after Gog & Magog is tempted to attack Jerusalem at peace in Ezekiel 38, which is after the resurrection and regathering event described in Ezekiel 37.

Again, we know that the resurrection and the millennium reign haven't happened in human history, so Zechariah 14:1-4 isn't describing the current events in the Middle East. The resurrection happens before the nations gather together against Jerusalem.

Thus Zechariah 14:3-4 describes The Almighty descending to earth to destroy the nations with fire after the millennium, it doesn't describe The Messiah's 2nd coming.


Ezekiel 37-47
- Messiah returns, resurrects, and regathers His people
- United Israel returns home
- They live in peace in unwalled villages
- Gog & Magog are tempted to attack
- The Almighty destroys them (Zech 14:3-7)
- The Great Temple
- The river of life flows out of it

Revelation 19-22
- Messiah returns, regathers His people
- Destruction of the beast and his army
- The Millenium reign
- The Gog & Magog nations surround the camp of God's people
- The Almighty destroys them (Zech 14:3-7)
- New Jerusalem
- The river of life flows out of it

Interesting view, I will study this further. Zechariah 14 & Rev 22 & Ezekiel 47 do match. I will look into it. So you would still agree that the gathering of the nations to the valley of Armageddon in Rev 16 is still prior to the second coming?

 

[PennEd]

1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.


PennEd, what's wild is I can post passages like ^this^ with no commentary and then ask what it says...and yet some would still accuse me of having the wrong doctrine or somehow manipulating the passage. The scriptures are replete with the same message. There's a reason we all don't instantaneously take on immortality upon confession. We have to build on the foundation. After salvation, we have to participate.

Again.
It's disturbing that you believe the purpose of the Bema Seat of Christ is to determine who did enough good works, and didn't do an unknown number of bad works, to be saved unto Eternal Life.

There is no difference between that belief, and every other religion on Earth that in one way or another teaches that if your good works outweigh your bad works you get in.

The text itself tells us the works are judged for REWARDS, NOT Salvation. Some are going to be the LEAST in the Kingdom, but they WILL be IN the Kingdom.

Please repent of that heresy.

 

[Yahshua]

Really? Yet "Jacob" and "Israel" are used for the twelve tribes interchangeably in Scripture.

Yes, really.

Texas is of the United States but the United States isn't just Texas. If Texas seceded would it continue to be called the United States officially? No. The greater portion would remain The United States while Texas would most likely be known as the Republic of Texas or something.

Another example: are Columbians factually American? Yes, because the entire landmass is known as America. But territorially, they are officially known as Columbians.

The biblical concepts make perfect sense when we apply them to our lives today.

And even though only three tribes were present in the province of Judah, that is still called "Israel". While speaking of Judah Christ Himself called it "Israel". See Matthew 8:10, 9:33, 10:6,23; 15:24. etc.

As a few of those passages note, the Messiah's purpose was to seek out the lost sheep of Israel. That includes those of Judea (Judah, the Jews), as well as people in (Acts 2):

- Parthia
- Medes
- Elam
- Mesopotamia
- Cappadocia
- Phrygia
- Pontus
- Pamphylia
- Egypt
- Libya
- Rome


The point is - as you've correctly used in your reply - officially the province was called "Judea" (Judah), not "Israel". They had every opportunity to reestablish the name "Israel" officially when they returned from captivity but did not because they were "the house of Judah" and they knew the scriptures.

Jeremiah 31:27
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.

Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Ezekiel 37:16, 21-22
Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions

[...]

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.


They're all Israel as that was never in question...but as long as the two houses are broken a distinction is made between them when scripture references territory until they are reunited by The King. With only "Jews" currently in the land right now, "the State of Israel" is not a valid name, not until at minimum:

At least one person from all other tribes is a registered citizen there (Revelation 7 puts the number at 12k from each tribe except for Dan).

 

[Yahshua]

Again.
It's disturbing that you believe the purpose of the Bema Seat of Christ is to determine who did enough good works, and didn't do an unknown number of bad works, to be saved unto Eternal Life.

There is no difference between that belief, and every other religion on Earth that in one way or another teaches that if your good works outweigh your bad works you get in.

The text itself tells us the works are judged for REWARDS, NOT Salvation. Some are going to be the LEAST in the Kingdom, but they WILL be IN the Kingdom.

Please repent of that heresy.

It may be better to take this up on another thread so we don't hijack this one. But please read the first two words in my last sentence? No one said at all that we were judged on our works for salvation. But it sounds like the following is a big misunderstanding on your part:


1. Salvation =/= Eternal Life

...if it did we would have our glorified bodies now.


2. Salvation = Delivery from The Condemnation of sin

...It means justification; we leave death row and exit the prison, having our record cleared SO THAT we can do good works and they finally matter. Before being saved no good deed we did matter because we were already guilty of crimes against the Almighty. The difference between all those other religions and us is they don't have faith in the work of the Messiah that makes all the rest matter. (Ephesians 2:8-10)

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


3. What are those good works? Obeying the commandments and doing good.

Romans 2:12-16
All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

14 Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.

16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

^ These five verses cover everyone on earth.


4. What are bad works? Sinning/evil

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


The Gospel: Faith in Messiah saving us (foundation) + Obeying and doing good works (what we build on that foundation) = Reward (Eternal life). Some will get the reward while others will just be saved from destruction when Messiah comes.

By the way, this is the reason for the Millennium and for satan being bound during that time. After Messiah destroys the beast army, a united Israel (natural branches and grafted branches all led by the Messiah), with their immortal bodies, will teach the nations the truth.

Just note the hundreds of denominations out there today. There will be many Christians who barely reach the millennium, still subject to death because they didn't have the complete message to walk in. The immortal will teach them from their headquarters in Israel.

 

[Yahshua]

Interesting view, I will study this further. Zechariah 14 & Rev 22 & Ezekiel 47 do match. I will look into it. So you would still agree that the gathering of the nations to the valley of Armageddon in Rev 16 is still prior to the second coming?

I'd say it's after...

Revelation 16:14-16
They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

15 “Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”

16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.


1. Demonic spirits go out
2. Messiah comes
3. Kings gather at valley

I believe we've been witnessing step one now as there needs to be an external threat that marshalls the world together. Currently, we've been hearing about alien sightings, we also have a "space force" now in the USA, and all the movies and shows out about invading alien armies.

 

[ZNP]

I actually like white American cheese but never tell anyone for fear of being called a cheese racist.

Orange cheese bad?

 

[Cameron143]

Orange cheese bad?

All cheese is good. I believe manna was actually cheese.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes, really.

You have simply gone off on a tangent to support your false ideas. So I will not even bother to address this post.

 

[Susanna]

@HeIsHere seems to disagree with apologies. Does that mean she wants to get the shenanigans going?😂

 

[Nehemiah6]

All cheese is good. I believe manna was actually cheese.

And that is totally bizarre.

 

[Cameron143]

And that is totally bizarre.

Still wearing your tie too tight I see.