THE LITTLE CHILDREN OF GOD
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What we notice today, the 45,000 or more denominations in Christianity are conducting baptism in water like John the Baptist did, but it is known to us that each of them have different doctrines of way to salvation.
What went wrong?
Perhaps they don't believe what Jesus said that he is speaking in parables.
Examples:
JOHN 2:19-21; Man understanding TEMPLE is LITERAL TEMPLE like CHURCHES, CATHEDRALS & CHAPELS.
Jesus understanding is HIS BODY
MATTHEW 16:6-12; Man understanding LEAVEN is for BREAD.
Jesus understanding LEAVEN is WRONG DOCTRINES
Yes, Jesus is using the word of man but the understanding of man is very far from the meaning in Jesus understanding.
It is because Jesus is speaking in parables.
MARK 4:34
34 But without a PARABLE spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
Therefore: The meaning of Water in Man understanding is the literal water we drink everyday.
But for Jesus understanding WATER is THE WORD OF GOD.
Jesus revealed the meaning to Paul.
EPHESIANS 5:26
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Since Jesus Expounded to us the meaning of water.
Therefore: The water used by John the Baptist in Water Baptism is not a LITERAL WATER but a WORD OF GOD.
Now, the Baptismal of John The Baptist is very clear that is why he called it WATER INTO REPENTANCE.
Because once you baptize into John The Baptist (Real Baptism) Baptism you will repent for what you believe in Man's Understanding.
MATTHEW 3:10-11
11 I indeed baptize you with WATER UNTO REPENTANCE. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the HOLY GHOST, and WITH FIRE:
Now, after the baptismal of John the Baptist, what is the next Baptismal which is the Baptism of Jesus Christ with the HOLY GHOST and WITH FIRE?
Remember, it takes 2 Baptisms (John the Baptist and Jesus Christ Baptism) before a man could become a little child or children or babes in the eyes of God. Whom only the little children will enter into The Kingdom of God.
What we notice today, the 45,000 or more denominations in Christianity are conducting baptism in water like John the Baptist did, but it is known to us that each of them have different doctrines of way to salvation.
What went wrong?
Perhaps they don't believe what Jesus said that he is speaking in parables.
Examples:
JOHN 2:19-21; Man understanding TEMPLE is LITERAL TEMPLE like CHURCHES, CATHEDRALS & CHAPELS.
Jesus understanding is HIS BODY
MATTHEW 16:6-12; Man understanding LEAVEN is for BREAD.
Jesus understanding LEAVEN is WRONG DOCTRINES
Yes, Jesus is using the word of man but the understanding of man is very far from the meaning in Jesus understanding.
It is because Jesus is speaking in parables.
MARK 4:34
34 But without a PARABLE spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
Therefore: The meaning of Water in Man understanding is the literal water we drink everyday.
But for Jesus understanding WATER is THE WORD OF GOD.
Jesus revealed the meaning to Paul.
EPHESIANS 5:26
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Since Jesus Expounded to us the meaning of water.
Therefore: The water used by John the Baptist in Water Baptism is not a LITERAL WATER but a WORD OF GOD.
Now, the Baptismal of John The Baptist is very clear that is why he called it WATER INTO REPENTANCE.
Because once you baptize into John The Baptist (Real Baptism) Baptism you will repent for what you believe in Man's Understanding.
MATTHEW 3:10-11
11 I indeed baptize you with WATER UNTO REPENTANCE. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the HOLY GHOST, and WITH FIRE:
Now, after the baptismal of John the Baptist, what is the next Baptismal which is the Baptism of Jesus Christ with the HOLY GHOST and WITH FIRE?
Remember, it takes 2 Baptisms (John the Baptist and Jesus Christ Baptism) before a man could become a little child or children or babes in the eyes of God. Whom only the little children will enter into The Kingdom of God.
In our times today, what is the equivalent of John The Baptist Baptism (Water into Repentance) and the Baptism of Jesus Christ (with the Holy Ghost and with Fire)?
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According to Jesus, the meaning of Water is The Word of God (Ephesians 5:26)
Then, the word of God is what John The Baptist used in Baptism.
John The Baptist submerged the person being baptize in water.
What is the equivalent of John The Baptist Baptismal in our times today?
Submerge in Water means Submerge in the Word of God means accept all the Words of God written from Genesis to Revelation.
The equivalent of John The Baptist Baptism in our times is Never ignore any single word as long as it is written in the Bible.
Therefore: Whoever accept all what is written in the Bible and never ignore a single word is being baptized into John the Baptist Baptism.
People who are reading and believing what is written in the Bible are claiming They Know Jesus Christ.
With the equivalent Baptism of John the Baptist, who can identify Jesus Christ by accepting what is all written about Jesus Christ
Who can reconcile each of Jesus Christ Characters and identity.
1. Jesus Christ is not a God
2. Jesus Christ is a God but a Mighty God only (God the father is the Almighty God)
3. The name of God is Jesus Christ.
4. There is only One God in 3 Persons. The Father is different from Son and different from the Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ is a God and a Man.
NUMBERS 23:19
19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
2 CORINTHIANS 6:18
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
MATTHEW 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
ACTS 2:38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
MATTHEW 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
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According to Jesus, the meaning of Water is The Word of God (Ephesians 5:26)
Then, the word of God is what John The Baptist used in Baptism.
John The Baptist submerged the person being baptize in water.
What is the equivalent of John The Baptist Baptismal in our times today?
Submerge in Water means Submerge in the Word of God means accept all the Words of God written from Genesis to Revelation.
The equivalent of John The Baptist Baptism in our times is Never ignore any single word as long as it is written in the Bible.
Therefore: Whoever accept all what is written in the Bible and never ignore a single word is being baptized into John the Baptist Baptism.
People who are reading and believing what is written in the Bible are claiming They Know Jesus Christ.
With the equivalent Baptism of John the Baptist, who can identify Jesus Christ by accepting what is all written about Jesus Christ
Who can reconcile each of Jesus Christ Characters and identity.
1. Jesus Christ is not a God
2. Jesus Christ is a God but a Mighty God only (God the father is the Almighty God)
3. The name of God is Jesus Christ.
4. There is only One God in 3 Persons. The Father is different from Son and different from the Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ is a God and a Man.
NUMBERS 23:19
19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
ISAIAH 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
2 CORINTHIANS 6:18
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
MATTHEW 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
ACTS 2:38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
MATTHEW 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Since it requires 2 Baptisms (Baptism of John The Baptist: Water into Repentance and The Baptism of Jesus: Holy Ghost with Fire) to become a little child in the eyes of God.
John shows the baptism in water.
This is what every groups in Christianity is conducting baptism in water
But the understanding of Man is in literal, and so they use literal water.
Jesus said he is speaking in parables
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
And he demonstrated it
JOHN 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
The Water for Jesus is The Word of God
EPHESIANS 5:26
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
The Baptism of John The Baptist where he submerge the person being baptize in water means John the Baptist is sharing to the people that we must be under to the Word of God or accept all what is written in The Word of God (Bible).
We should not ignore or neglect even just 1 single word of God.
This is what John The Baptist Baptism in our times today.
It is not easy to be baptized by John the Baptist or it is not easy to accept what is all written in the bible because it contradicts each other,
Yes, it requires a total surrender to accept what is all written
This is the real total surrender to the Lord.
By not using man's intellect to understand the Word of God.
But John The Baptist Baptism is not enough to become little child.
It requires the 2nd baptism which is The Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire.
What is the Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire.
John shows the baptism in water.
This is what every groups in Christianity is conducting baptism in water
But the understanding of Man is in literal, and so they use literal water.
Jesus said he is speaking in parables
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
And he demonstrated it
JOHN 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
The Water for Jesus is The Word of God
EPHESIANS 5:26
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
The Baptism of John The Baptist where he submerge the person being baptize in water means John the Baptist is sharing to the people that we must be under to the Word of God or accept all what is written in The Word of God (Bible).
We should not ignore or neglect even just 1 single word of God.
This is what John The Baptist Baptism in our times today.
It is not easy to be baptized by John the Baptist or it is not easy to accept what is all written in the bible because it contradicts each other,
Yes, it requires a total surrender to accept what is all written
This is the real total surrender to the Lord.
By not using man's intellect to understand the Word of God.
But John The Baptist Baptism is not enough to become little child.
It requires the 2nd baptism which is The Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire.
What is the Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire.
There are nowhere near that many denominations of Christianity.
That is a terrible miscalculation based on a lack of understanding perpetuated by, um, well, a dearth of knowledge.
Many sources say many things and many of those things are blatant falsehoods .
I have posted this before so am simply copy/pasting from an earlier post:
45,000 thousand: that is a false number based on an egregious misunderstanding.
That misunderstanding gets thrown around as if it were truth when it is not.
Even under the most liberal definition of what constitutes a denomination, there are
nowhere close to 33,000 - 45,000 denominations. Many of these groups are merely subgroups
of larger denominational groups such as Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, or Baptists.
Evangelical apologist Eric Svendsen exposes the falsehood of this fabrication. Briefly:
Svendsen shows that the source of this figure is the World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford
University Press, 1982). Barrett cites a figure of 20,780 denominations. Still, not all of them are Protestants.
According to Barrett, Protestants account for 8,196 (and incidentally, Roman Catholics account for 223).
However, even this figure of eight thousand Protestant denominations is misleading, for Barrett defines
"distinct denominations" as any group that might have a slightly different emphasis than another group.
The distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices.
Barrett breaks down the Protestant bloc into twenty-one major "traditions" which are much closer to what we usually
mean by the word "denominations." It is interesting that Roman Catholics are subdivided into sixteen such "traditions."
Svendsen concludes, "In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly - and, as a result, irresponsibly - glanced
at Barrett's work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded." source
That is a terrible miscalculation based on a lack of understanding perpetuated by, um, well, a dearth of knowledge.
Many sources say many things and many of those things are blatant falsehoods .
I have posted this before so am simply copy/pasting from an earlier post:
45,000 thousand: that is a false number based on an egregious misunderstanding.
That misunderstanding gets thrown around as if it were truth when it is not.
Even under the most liberal definition of what constitutes a denomination, there are
nowhere close to 33,000 - 45,000 denominations. Many of these groups are merely subgroups
of larger denominational groups such as Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, or Baptists.
Evangelical apologist Eric Svendsen exposes the falsehood of this fabrication. Briefly:
Svendsen shows that the source of this figure is the World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford
University Press, 1982). Barrett cites a figure of 20,780 denominations. Still, not all of them are Protestants.
According to Barrett, Protestants account for 8,196 (and incidentally, Roman Catholics account for 223).
However, even this figure of eight thousand Protestant denominations is misleading, for Barrett defines
"distinct denominations" as any group that might have a slightly different emphasis than another group.
The distinction is made on the basis of jurisdiction, rather than differing beliefs and practices.
Barrett breaks down the Protestant bloc into twenty-one major "traditions" which are much closer to what we usually
mean by the word "denominations." It is interesting that Roman Catholics are subdivided into sixteen such "traditions."
Svendsen concludes, "In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly - and, as a result, irresponsibly - glanced
at Barrett's work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded." source
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This is The Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire, according to Jesus:
It was demonstrated to his disciples.
ACTS 2:1-4
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
The disciples were baptized into John The Baptist Baptism (Water unto Repentance).
Then they were baptized into Jesus Baptism (with Holy Ghost and with Fire)
This is why they became a little child or babe in the eyes of God..
So God address them this way.
1 JOHN 2:1
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Therefore: The Little Children of God are Speaking in Tongues as the disciples did after the Day of Pentecost
This is The Baptism of Jesus with Holy Ghost and with Fire, according to Jesus:
It was demonstrated to his disciples.
ACTS 2:1-4
2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
The disciples were baptized into John The Baptist Baptism (Water unto Repentance).
Then they were baptized into Jesus Baptism (with Holy Ghost and with Fire)
This is why they became a little child or babe in the eyes of God..
So God address them this way.
1 JOHN 2:1
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Therefore: The Little Children of God are Speaking in Tongues as the disciples did after the Day of Pentecost