The Two Beasts and the Whore of Revelation Explained

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 1

Alright guys, this is a long study broken into 7 parts. There is just no short way of explaining this topic without going into details as to why each thing pertains to what. So if you a person interested in prophecy concerning Revelation, I encourage you to read on. I first explain the interpretation of the vision of the whore, and towards the end I explain the interpretation of the two beasts, and also mark (imprint) of the beast. I have broken this study into several parts to fit it into this thread. This first scripture reference of importance in determining who the beasts and the whore are is the actual interpretation the angel gives John further down in the Book of Revelation. From the interpretation the angel is giving, we can then backtrack to the other visions in previous chapters. In the interpretation we have a LITERAL clue as to the identity of the whore. Here the angel states,

Here is the LITERAL clue given by the angel,

Whoever the whore is, it is LITERALLY located in an area with seven mountains. Do we know of any cities in the world having seven mountains? Yes, Rome. The mountains, or "hills" are,

Aventine Hill (Latin, Aventinus; Italian, Aventino)
Caelian Hill (Caelius, Celio)
Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus, Campidoglio)
Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus, Esquilino)
Palatine Hill (Palatinus, Palatino)
Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis, Quirinale)
Viminal Hill (Viminalis, Viminale)

But the whore isn't Rome, it is instead the Vatican more specifically. The Roman empire that existed previously and was centered in Rome BROUGHT FORTH the whore, yet now she RIDES a separate entity beneath her, but remains within the same geographical location of Rome that birthed her. And also by the mere usage of the word "whore", or "harlot", to describe the Vatican, it is indicating it as a "false church", not necessarily a governmental power anymore that it once was. How else do we know it is just a "false church"? The true church is conveyed as the "bride" of Jesus Christ,

Now that we've matched the literal clue given by the angel to the Vatican, lets go on and describe each of the aspects of the whore and how they pertain to the Vatican,

The first thing to note is the whore will be judged. Later in scripture we see how the whore IS JUDGED. Has the Vatican been judged yet? No, it is clearly still standing. This scripture also indicates that the whore sits upon many waters. Waters in scripture indicates many kinds of people,

Does the Vatican influence many kinds of people in the world? Yes. According to some research I've gathered, there is estimated to be 1.2 billion roman catholics in the world,

"There are an estimated 1.2 billion Roman Catholics in the world, according to Vatican figures. More than 40% of the world's Catholics live in Latin America - but Africa has seen the biggest growth in Catholic congregations in recent years."
BBC News, How many Roman Catholics are there in the world? - BBC News

Only God knows the exact number, but there is no doubt that the Vatican sits on "many waters", or rather, influences many kinds of people in the world. The influence in America itself is also great, here are some "catholic" related statistics in 2014,

Catholic population (self-identified, survey-based estimate): 79.7 million
Parishes: 17,483
Catholic elementary schools: 5,368
Catholic secondary schools: 1,200
Catholic colleges and universities: 225
Catholic hospitals: 549
Georgetown University, Catholic Data, Catholic Statistics, Catholic Research

Only the God knows the exact number. Next, the scripture says the kings of the earth have committed harlotry with her. Is the Vatican associated with world leaders? Yes. Here are some world leaders that have been recently photographed with pope Francis,

US President Barack Obama
President Cristina Kirchner of Argentina
US Vice President Joe Biden
German Chancellor Angela
Russian President Vladimir Putin
French President Francois Hollande
Malta's President George Abela
King of Jordan Abdullah II Ibn Hussein's wife
Reference Telegraph Media Group Limited, In pictures: World leaders queue up for an audience with Pope Francis - Telegraph

And there are more. God knows who they all are. Is there any other "whore", or "false church", that exhibits this kind of world influence? No. The Vatican is without a doubt associated with the leaders of the world.

Next, the whore is said to cause the inhabitants of the earth to be INTOXICATED with the wine of her harlotry. What made this entity a whore in the first place? The fact that it is a "false church". Therefore it stands to reason that the "wine of her harlotry" indicates something in relation to her being a "false church", that also causes people to be spiritually "drunk". What could this wine possibly be? Her doctrine. Her false teachings. Her doctrine and teachings CAUSES THE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD TO BE DRUNK. What happens when someone is drunk? They can't walk straight, they can't see clearly, or they become CONFUSED, and often times, depending on how drunk they are, they black out and have NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON. Here is a list of some false doctrines and teachings taught by the Vatican in accordance with their Catechism of the Catholic Church (also available on Vatican webite, I'm not making this up),

The Catholic church is the one true church, CCC 2105
Infallibility of the Catholic Church, CCC 2035
Only the Roman Catholic Church has authority to interpret Scripture, CCC 100
The Pope is the head of the church and has the authority of Christ, CCC 2034
The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation, CCC 846
Purgatory, CCC 1031, CCC 1475
Indulgences, CCC 1471
Prayer to the saints, CCC 2677
The Communion elements become the actual body and blood of Christ, CCC 1374, CCC 1376
Sinners Go To Hell Right After They Die, CC1035, CC1035
People Go To Heaven After They Die, CC1023, CC1024, CC1026
Catechism of the atholic Church, The Vatican website, Catechism of the Catholic Church

And countless other false doctrines that have spiritually intoxicated the people of the world. Her doctrine causes people to be confused about the truth, so it causes them to err in their ways and continue their sinful lifestyles.

The DECEPTION of the Catholic Church RUNS SO DEEP, that it has even permeated into those that seperated themselves from it, and call themselves "Protestants". Most of the Protestants STILL HOLD MANY of the beliefs that were TAUGHT BY THE VATICAN. Teachings of a hell as a place people go to right after they die, the teaching of an endless torment in hell, teachings of people going to heaven right after death, teachings of the trinity, teachings confusing the separate identities of the Father and of Jesus Christ, teachings saying Jesus Christ never began, teachings confusing the role of the holy spirit, teachings of the soul being immortal, teachings false interpreting the rich man and lazarus parable, teaching to perform teachings of prayer to the saints, teachings of the virgin mary as queen of heaven, teachings of purgatory, teachings confusing predestination, and MANY MORE FALSE DOCTRINES. The catholic church has LITERALLY intoxicated the entire world with the WINE of its FALSE DOCTRINE. Lets read further,

She RIDES a "scarlet beast", or a "red" beast, or also a "crimson" beast, that has seven heads and ten horns. This is the SAME BEAST that that rises out of the sea a few chapters earlier, however, this version of the beast comes LATER in time. But why is this beast now said to be "scarlet", which before wasn't mentioned before? Lets see what the color does "scarlet", or "red", or also "crimson" indicate in scripture,

It indicates sins. But why indicate sins now? Because the sins in this version have the beast have reached their fullness. This is the LATER and FINAL version of the beast that exists WHILE the whore also exists and rides this beast as a separate entity. And this version of the beast is the one that goes unto destruction by the great fire, so the color scarlet indicates that the fullness of the sins is finally reached with this final version of the beast before it is finally destroyed in Gehenna itself.

What about the names of blasphemy, "being full of names of blasphemy"? It may be speculative as to who bears the names of blasphemy, is it the whore or is it the scarlet beast? Or is it both? The translation makes it difficult to know by just reading it, so lets try to figure it out and define what "blasphemy" means according to Merriam Webster,

1. the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
2. the act of claiming the attributes of deity

Merriam Webster, Blasphemy | Definition of Blasphemy by Merriam-Webster

Does the Vatican claim itself to be the only authority on earth that can lead to salvation? Yes. This is one example of a blasphemy. A blasphemy is not just any false teachning, but is GREAT FALSE TEACHING CONCERNING SOMETHING RELATED TO GOD. And does the Vatican fit this very description? Absolutely. Therefore it stands to conclude that the source of blasphemies come from the WHORE, or the Vatican, which is the great false church. I will explain the seven heads and ten horns of this beast later on. Lets go further on the vision of the whore,

The first thing to note is she is wearing "purple". Purple is the color of royalty or rulership in scripture,

Does the Vatican exhibit this attribute of "royalty" or "rulership"? Yes, the Vatican is considered its OWN COUNTRY with its OWN CURRENCY.

Catholic Answers, Is the Vatican really a country? | Catholic Answers

Lets go further, the Vatican is also indicated as wearing scarlet, which indicates sins. Are there known sins the people of the Vatican have committed? Yes, it has been involved in VARIOUS sexually immorality scandals AS A CHURCH, among MANY OTHER SINS. Here is an exhaustive reference of catholic church scandals according to Wikipedia,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Obviously only God knows all the sins they have committed and how accurate this reference is. It is also said that the whore is gilded with "gold". What does gold represent? Wealth. Is the Vatican wealthy? It is EXTREMELY wealthy. Here is a reference that indicates how wealthy it could be,

"Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market."
Time Inc, Roman Catholics: The Vatican's Wealth - TIME

Obviously only God knows exactly how wealthy the Vatican is, but there is NO DOUBT that it is extremely wealthy.

Lets go further, she is also said to have "precious stone and pearls". What does this represent? It represents its RELICS, its TREASURES, its expensive ART, its sculptures, and its expensive ARCHITECTURE built by famous Italian artists and architects. Anybody that ever goes to the Vatican is astounded. Here are some to name a view,

Sistine Chapel and its ceiling painted by Michelangelo, https://www.google.com/search?q=sis...ved=0ahUKEwjRscnBnbfJAhVE6iYKHaUYAcEQ_AUIBigB
St. Peter's Basilica, https://www.google.com/search?q=st+...ved=0ahUKEwiYkPnGnbfJAhUK6SYKHRgkD7UQ_AUIBigB
The Vatican Museum and all its treasures and relics, https://www.google.com/search?q=st+...UIBigB#safe=off&tbm=isch&q=the+vatican+museum

Going further, the whore is also holding a golden cup full of the abominations and the uncleanliness of her harlotry. Its not just ANY abomination and uncleanliness, its referring to the abominations and uncleanliness OF HER HARLOTRY. What made her a harlot in the first place? The fact that she is a FALSE CHURCH. Therefore, it stands to reason that whatever abominations and uncleanliness she has are in relation to her being a FALSE CHURCH. What is an abomination? It is something GOD ABSOLUTELY HATES. So what abominations is the Vatican guilty of AS A FALSE CHURCH?

One abomination is IDOLATRY. The catholic church is known for all of its statues and images of saints and the virgin Mary in everything that pertains to them; mosaics and statues of Jesus in all their churches, iconography of saints with halos in their books, and even in crosses and jewelry that catholic people wear. It is an extremely idolatrous church. Catholic people are known to bow to these statues, and pray to these images as well. Here are some examples,

https://www.google.com/search?q=sai...ved=0ahUKEwjuk7zLo7fJAhVH5iYKHWL6DcIQ_AUIBigB
https://www.google.com/search?q=sai...=isch&q=saints+statues+of+the+catholic+church
https://www.google.com/search?q=sai...fe=off&tbm=isch&q=virgin+mary+catholic+church

Idolatry is identified as an abomination in scripture,

Accursed is the man who shall make a carving and a molten image, an abomination to the LORD, a work of the hands of a craftsman, and shall put it in concealment. And answering all the people shall say, May it be. (Deuteronomy 27:15 [ABP])

Another abomination is GREED and the LOVE OF MONEY.

Is the Vatican guilty of this abomination as well? Yes. Look how rich it has made itself and how elevated it is. God didn't bring down the Vatican from heaven and neither did Jesus Christ command any of his people to build such ostentatious and extravagant structures. They built these things on THEIR OWN in their WICKEDNESS.

Going further, the whore is said to be holding a golden cup that is full of these abominations as a false church. So what does HOLDING a cup indicate? She is PROUD. Why is she proud? Because she is RICH, hence why she holds a golden cup, remember, gold indicates wealth. So, she is PROUD because she is RICH, and JUSTIFIES these abominations BECAUSE SHE IS A CHURCH. Lets go on further,

This scripture indicates that she is also a MOTHER. A mother of who? A mother of OTHER WHORES. So what does this mean exactly? That she has birthed other false churches as well. How many of these HARLOTS are there? Too many to even count. There are hundreds, if not thousands of different church and denominations both catholic and "protestant". Only God knows the exact number of churches birthed by this mother church of falsehood.

Yet its not to say that there aren't true men of God that have the correct doctrine and are filled with the Holy Spirit that may have come from any of these churches listed, but this list goes to show how deeply it has influenced all the churches in the world.

Taking it further, she is said to be the MOTHER of the abominations of the earth as well, so this indicates that the churches she birthed as a mother also commit the same abominations she does. Which abominations? Idolatry, greed and love of money. And do they? Oh yes.

Look at the extravagant "Christian megachurches" and their pastors living luxurious lives. Look at the Christian music industry and their artists living decadent or luxurious lives. Look at the Christian TV channels and their televangelists with their huge churches that raking in millions of dollars. Look at "Christian movies" and the big earnings they rake in. Its appalling. Here are some SPECIFIC examples,

Creflo Dollar, wanting a $70 million jet. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=creflo dollar jet
Joyce Meyer's, $10 million dollar corporate jet. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=joyce meyer net worth
Christian artists peddling music to God, and how much they make, https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=christian music artists
Joel Osteen net worth, https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=joel osteen net worth

I need to make something very clear, it is EVIL TO GET RICH OFF DOING THE WORK OF GOD. Even Paul said,

CONTINUE TO PART 2

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 2

Peddling means to make something a BUSINESS. What did Jesus do when he saw men doing commerce in the temple? He overturned tables in anger,

Its not to say BEING RICH is evil, but there is a clear distinction FROM ALREADY BEING RICH when coming to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, and FROM TRYING TO PURSUE WEALTH AFTERWARDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN GETTING RICH PEDDLING THE WORD OF GOD. What does Paul say concerning those who are already rich coming to the faith?

Here is what he says concerning the ones wanting to be rich,

And what did the early church do when presented with the gospel? THEY SOLD THEIR POSSESSIONS, STUCK TO THE BARE NECESSITIES OF LIFE, AND MANY
KEPT THE MONEY FROM THE SELLING OF THEIR POSSESSIONS,

The deception of the whore of Babylon runs so deep that its deception still exists even in the churches of America and most of the world that broke away from her. And in many of the churches in America, just as the whore made herself herself rich, so do many of the protestant churches do the same. And also, just as the whore has intoxicated the entire world with false doctrine, so do the other whores she birthed do the same.

Going further, why does the scripture call her the whore of BABYLON? The Catholic Church is ALSO based on PAGAN originating from Babylonian and Egyptian religions. THROUGHOUT its churches and at the Vatican alone, there is PAGAN symbology, here are some examples,

The Obelisk, originating from the Egyptians and Assyrians (Babylonians) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk#Assyrian
The obelisk is a pagan symbol said to represent a phallus, or a penis. This same pagan monument exists also in American landmarks.
Where exactly the obelisk originated from, GOD KNOWS, but it is in fact a pagan symbol

The Virgin Mary Holding Baby Jesus, also of Pagan origin being a copy of Isis holding baby Horus,
https://www.google.com/search?q=ass...e=off&tbm=isch&q=babylon+goddess+holding+baby
https://www.google.com/search?q=ass...=off&tbm=isch&q=egyptian+goddess+holding+baby
Where exactly a woman holding a baby originated, God knows, but the Virgin Mary holding baby Jesus is in fact pagan.

Christmas, originated in ancient Rome and there is MUCH speculation concerning EXACTLY how it came to be, so here is some perspective according to Wikipedia,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
How Christmas began exactly, God knows, but it is without a doubt a PAGAN holiday that was later adopted by the catholic church and protestant churches. Jesus Christ was VERY LIKELY NOT BORN ON December 25 as historical evidence supports.

Other pagan symbols includes thing like the pinecone on the Pope's staff, the maltese cross on the pope's robes, "halos" around the heads of saints and Jesus in paintings, and many other pagan symbols originating from Babylon and Egyptian religions. This is no coincidence, the catholic church has indeed fulfilled scripture concerning this. Lets go further,

The first thing to note here is that SHE IS INTOXICATED WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS. Was the Vatican involved in the martyrdom of the saints before? Yes. It is a known history of the catholic church. Look at the Inquisition, and the witch trials, and the known tortures they implemented. It was one of the darkest times in known history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
https://www.google.com/search?q=inq...ved=0ahUKEwiYpf2ruLfJAhWJwiYKHa4pAcEQ_AUIBigB

But notice in this scripture that it says shes INTOXICATED WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS. So its not just that the Vatican is guilty of the martyrdom of the saints, but that SHE IS NOW DRUNK WITH ALL THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS. Why is this of special significance? Because the KILLING OF THE SAINTS WAS DONE WHEN THE VATICAN ACTED AS THE FIRST BEAST OF REVELATION, BUT NOW IT IS NO LONGER THE FIRST BEAST OF REVELATION, IT IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON. What we see the Vatican today as, is the Vatican AS THE WHORE, NOT AS THE GOVERNMENTAL POWER THAT IT ONCE WAS AS THE FIRST BEAST KILLING THE SAINTS. It has NOW BECOME THE WHORE, A FALSE CHURCH, THAT IS NOW FULLY INTOXICATED WITH ALL THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS THAT WERE KILLED WHEN THE VATICAN ACTED AS THE FIRST BEAST. When did she become the the WHORE OF BABYLON? With the Lateran Treaty of 1929 when it was instituted back into existence by Benito Mussolini,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty

Yet a MAJOR THING TO NOTE, is that the WHORE NOW RIDES THE FIRST BEAST. Therefore, it stands to conclude that ALTHOUGH the Vatican was ONCE THE FIRST BEAST, it has NOW SEPARATED OUT AND MORPHED into just a false church, and NOW A SEPARATE ENTITY GROWS AS THE FIRST BEAST, and NOW A SEPARATE ENTITY GROWS AS THE FIRST BEAST BENEATH HER WHICH SHE RIDES. More on this later.

The next thing to note is that John MARVELED, WITH GREAT WONDER, when he saw her. How many people don't marvel when they go to the Vatican to behold all its art, St. Peter's Basilica, the Sistine Chapel, and all its treasures. Much of the world MARVELS after the Vatican and the Vatican attracts MUCH tourism.

even the beast which you saw was, and is not, and is about to ascend from out of the abyss, and [*2*into *3*destruction *1*to go away]. And [*6*shall marvel *1*the ones *2*dwelling *3*upon *4*the *5*earth], whose [*2*are not *3*written *1*names] upon the scroll of the life from the founding of the world, seeing the beast that was, and is not, and shall be at hand. (Revelation of John 17:8 [ABP])

The first thing to note about this passage is this, "the beast which you saw was, and is not, and is about to ascend from out of the abyss". This scripture is saying, this "beast" was, then it disappeared, then it came back again. And that when IT DOES come back, it GOES AWAY INTO DESTRUCTION. What destruction? The DESTRUCTION OF THE LAKE OF FIRE. So what was the beast in the current time of John? It was an EMPIRE RULED BY EMPERORS. What was it BEFORE THAT? IT WAS A REPUBLIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT LASTED AROUND 450 YEARS. So it stands to reason that WHATEVER IT BECOMES NEXT WOULD BE A REPUBLIC AS WELL.

Ancient History Encyclopedia Limited, "The Roman Republic was the phase of the ancient Roman civilisation characterised by a republican form of government. It began with the overthrow of the Roman monarchy, c. 509 BC, and lasted over 450 years until its subversion in 29 BC, through a series of civil wars, into the Principate form of government and the Imperial period."
Roman Republic - Ancient History Encyclopedia

Of course, God knows the EXACT dates, but without a doubt this is the FORM of government it WAS.

The first rule of EMPERORS was JULIUS CAESER and his rule began in 49 BC well BEFORE the time the revelation to John, although there are some historians that consider Augustus as the first emperor. This is of no importance to us regardless which was actually first emperor (God knows the truth of the matter). Why is it of no importance? Because the heads of the beast aren't referring to Roman emperors in spite of what many believe. Here is a list of the first few emperors, and the line of emperors goes down to even MORE THAN 30 from these down to Constantine (God knows all the exact dates and emperors),

Julius Caesar, October 49 BC - 15 March 44 BC
Augustus, January 16, 27 BC - August 19, 14 AD
Tiberius, September 18, 14 AD - March 16, 37 AD
Caligula, March 18, 37 AD - January 24, 41 AD
Claudius, January 25/26, 41 AD - October 13, 54 AD
Nero, October 13, 54 AD - June 9, 68 AD
Galba, June 8, 68 AD - January 15, 69 AD
Otho, January 15, 69 AD - April 16, 69 AD
Vitellius, April 17, 69 AD - December 20, 69 AD
Vespasian, December 21, 69 AD - June 24, 79 AD
Titus, June 24, 79 AD - September 13, 81 AD

Here are historical references, God knows the exact truth of the matter and exact dates,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_emperors
List of Roman Emperors - Livius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar

So with seeing this list of emperors, it becomes obvious that that the heads of the beast ARE NOT referring to Roman emperors. Even if the "five have fallen" verse were to apply to Nero or Galba, depending on who you consider is the first emperor, why would the 7 heads stop at Galba or Otho when there were clearly so many more emperors? I will explain who the seen heads are later on. Going further, the major thing to note from this scripture is the "was, is not, and is about to be". This is REFERRING TO THE BEAST BECOMING A REPUBLIC AGAIN, as it was PREVIOUSLY.

What does the angel say further? That the world will marvel that it was, disappeared, but then comes back. Why will the world marvel? Because the old form of the roman republic which was thought to have been "great" will once again come back and exist as the form of government of this beast before its final destruction. How else do we know that the world marvels after this type of government? Look at the american form of government, fashioned after the old roman republic, its nearly a copy of it, so therefore if Americans copied it then it surely means Americans marveled after it. Therefore it stands to reason if this form of government comes back within the first beast, that surely the world would marvel that this "great" form of government has come back.

"The Romans established a form of government a republic that was copied by countries for centuries... In fact, the government of the United States is based partly on Rome's model... Once free, the Romans established a republic, a government in which citizens elected representatives to rule on their behalf."
US History, The Roman Republic [ushistory.org]

Going further, you might ask then, is the united states therefore the beast? No. More on this later and its role in this entire prophecy. Some might also ask, well why is a republic evil? There are two things that make any nation, a nation of god. The first thing is god's choice. The choice is obvious and apparent. Who were the first people chosen by god? The children of Israel,

God himself chose them and delivered from out of the slavery to the Egyptians, with visible mighty judgments and great power.

The second thing that makes a kingdom a kingdom of god is the law given by God. The law was given to the children of Israel, no one else. They were chosen. So therefore, it stands to reason that any nation not chosen and upholding their own laws are already creating their own laws outside of the law of God (the Torah). The law of God reveals all that is sin. But in the letter of the law given to the chosen children of Israel, it foreshadows a spiritual law that would exist, that was to be a "kingdom of the heaven", and given to another and greater chosen people. Who are these new chosen people? It is the people that fulfill the law spiritually now through Jesus Christ. Why is it a kingdom of the heaven? Because it is brought down spiritually to man by Jesus Christ himself who came from above. So now we have here, a new kind of law, that is spiritual, given by Jesus Christ. And since this new chosen kingdom has now been brought down spiritually, it stands to reason that any kingdom outside of this chosen kingdom is not a kingdom of god. And what does Jesus Christ teach and want his people to do?

Why sell everything? Because the abundance of possessions and pursuit of wealth pertains to the way of the world and the kingdoms in the world, not the way of the kingdom of the heaven that is now spiritually on the earth. Aside from Jesus Christ teaching people to sell their possessions, what else did he teach?

These two actions make up two very important actions that those in the kingdom of the heaven do, they rid themselves all possessions and bring themselves down to just the bare necessities of life, and do the work of discipling nations and bearing fruit. Why discipling and bearing fruit? Because it is in the discipling and in the bearing of the fruit that you store for yourself a wealth that is instead given by god and not by this world. That is why Jesus Christ also says,

And he also says,

So those who pursue wealth and the abundance of possessions will be made last, and those who humble themselves and make themselves to live simple lives with bare necessities will be made first in the time to come.

Jesus Christ also said,

Mammon in this scripture is referring to MONEY. It is also said,

And Jesus also said,

We also have this proverb,

Whoever pursues wealth is proud, but whoever is getting rid of his excess possessions humbles himself. What does the scripture then say about those who humbles himself by this selling of possessions? God then shows favor. What does god do while you are still in your excess? He resists. Why do you think the early church sold all their possessions? So that they could then be in favor with God, if they had kept their abundance of possessions God would have continued resisting them,

The love of money is the ROOT OF ALL KINDS OF EVIL,

So therefore, it stands to reason, if after the bringing forth of the kingdom of the heaven by Jesus Christ, you later on have people setting up governmental powers in complete opposition of the teachings of Jesus Christ about humility and discipling... Do you suppose that any of these kingdoms are in any way "righteous"? Even regardless of how much such government claims to be "christian" or of "god"? No.

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teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 3

Going further, what else makes a republic evil? We've already identified that there is one law, the law given by moses, and that there is then the spiritual law it foreshadows, but it is based on this law that foreshadows it. Anything outside of this is not of God and pertains to this world. A republic is based on the creation of laws based on the majority rule. If the majority of the people want one thing, then those are the laws that are passed. It is driven by popular vote. This is also why it is evil. It is not based on the law of god (the Torah), nor is it based on the spiritual law of god either as taught by Jesus Christ. It is its own separate thing, regardless of how many laws may seem to pattern after the law of god. It is still its own thing, because it is driven by popular vote, whatever the people want and who the people put in power. It is already wicked by its very nature.

Lets jump a scripture, since we already identified the whore being in the midst of 7 mountains,

WHO ARE THESE 7 KINGS, but 5 HAVE FALLEN, ONE IS CURRENTLY IN POWER, and ONE IS YET TO COME FOR ONLY A LITTLE WHILE.

Well, the angel tells us one of them is already in power. Who was IN POWER at the time? The ROMAN EMPIRE. Why do we presume that THE CURRENT HEAD refers to the EMPIRE ITSELF and NOT A CURRENT KING IN POWER? Because in the previous verses we already DETERMINED that the ROMAN EMPIRE HAD MANY EMPERORS, SO IT IS NOT REFERRING TO SPECIFIC KINGS, BUT RATHER, LARGER GROUPS OF EMPIRES OR KINGDOMS. If indeed this scripture were referring to 5 previous emperors in Rome, then that would've had to place the vision of John at somewhere between October 13, 54 AD June 9, 68 AD (13 years, 7 months and 27 days) when the SIXTH emperor was ruling, Nero. But then if we look at how many emperors existed AFTER NERO and HIS SUCCESSOR Galba (who would have been the 7th), then the interpretation of "literal kings" as emperors wouldn't make sense. Why would it stop at Galba? The empire was NOT DESTROYED with Galba nor even Otho after him, nor even the one after him. Going further, were there 5 greater entities that existed BEFORE the Roman Empire? YES. But you CAN'T LOOK AT ALL THE GREAT "EMPIRES" that have necessarily existed according to the regular history books. You have to look at the kingdoms that existed according to SCRIPTURE in reference to the children of Israel since THE HISTORY OF THESE KINGDOMS PERTAIN SPECIFICALLY TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL AND THE KINGDOM OF GOD. So who are these 5 that have FALLEN?

1st, The Ancient Egyptians (The children of Israel were enslaved under them for 430 years)
2nd, The Assyrians (The children of Israel were taken captive twice by them in a span of 20 years)
3rd, The Babylonians (The tribe of Judah was take captive by them for 70 years)
4th, The Persians
5th, The Ancient Greeks
6th, The Romans (IT WAS THE CURRENT RULING POWER AT THE TIME)
7th, The Ottomans (CAME AFTER THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY WAS AT THE TIME OF THE VISION OF JOHN, SAID TO HAVE CONTROLLED ISRAEL AROUND 400 YEARS)

Why start with Egypt as the the FIRST kingdom in this beast that has "7 heads"? Because they were the FIRST to hold the children of Israel captive under slavery. What each of these kingdoms have in common is that they were great kingdoms that had control or influence over the children of Israel and in some cases, even held them captive, Egypt being the first and enslaved them. The whole SCOPE of these BEASTLY HEADS encompasses the ENTIRE TIME FROM THE SLAVERY OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL IN EGYPT DOWN TO THE VERY END AT THE COMING OF JESUS CHRIST. Not to be CONFUSED with the 4 KINGDOMS of Daniel, which only encompasses FOUR OF THESE KINGDOMS, WHICH ARE NOW KNOWN TO BE THE BABYLONIANS, THE PERSIANS, THE ANCIENT GREEKS, AND THE ROMANS. And IN FACT, the vision of Daniel ONLY LEADS DOWN TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND ITS SUBSEQUENT BREAK UP INTO 10 WEAK AND STRONG KINGDOMS. AFTER THAT WE ONLY KNOW ABOUT A "LITTLE HORN", THAT LASTS UNTIL THE END TO THE TIME OF THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST. That LITTLE HORN HAS ALREADY COME, AND IS THE SEAT OF THE PAPACY. We are now WAY INTO THE FUTURE PERTAINING TO THE BEASTLY KINGDOMS OF REVELATION. Another thing to note, each of these HEADS has influenced each after the other. Even the Ottoman influence in what constitutes modern day Europe is great. Lets continue further in the scripture,

So there is AN EIGHTH AFTER THE SEVEN,

8th, THE FINAL ONE, COMES OUT OF THE SEVEN, AND WILL BE A "REPUBLIC", AND IN THIS ONE, IT IS SAID TO BE THE BEAST AGAIN, AND THIS ONE FINALLY GOES UNTO THE DESTRUCTION OF FIRE.

So what exactly IS THE BEAST IN ITS FINAL FORM? It will be a REPUBLIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT ENCOMPASSES THE EUROPEAN REGION AND PROBABLY EVEN FURTHER. Do we see this formation already happening? YES. In the EURO. Its ALREADY BEGINNING TO FORM INTO A UNITED REPUBLIC AND WILL CONTINUE TO MORPH INTO A MORE UNITED KINGDOM, PROBABLY EVEN LARGER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW. We are seeing the 8th GREAT HEAD FORM BEFORE OUR VERY EYES.

Here is an article of several countries waiting to join the EURO (GIVING THEIR AUTHORITY TO THE EURO BEAST), ITS GROWING SLOWLY, EXPANDING, AND CENTRALIZING,

ALBANIA, Applied for full membership: April 2009
CROATIA, Applied for full membership: February 2003
ICELAND, Applied for full membership: July 2009
MACEDONIA, Applied for full membership: March 2004

And there are more.

Here is a recent 2014 reference, BBC News, EU enlargement: The next seven - BBC News

Going further in scripture,

These [*2*against *3*the *4*lamb *1*shall wage war], and the lamb will overcome them, for [*2*Lord *3*of lords *1*he is] and king of kings; and the ones with him are called, and chosen, and trustworthy. (Revelation of John 17:14 [ABP])

If this European republic is the final head of the beast, and it is itself the beast, then it stands to conclude that this European republic we are seeing now will be the very republic that will exist at the coming of Jesus Christ. It will probably evolve even more, and there are scriptures still to be fulfilled before the coming of Jesus Christ.

Going further in scripture,

So we've identified the 7 HEADS of the beast, but WHO ARE THESE TEN HORNS? It is the BREAKUP of the Roman Empire into 10 KINGS, but in this vision, it pertains to the REPUBLIC NATIONS IN EUROPE WE SEE TODAY THAT DESCENDED FROM THIS BREAKUP OF 10. Who exactly are these ten kings? We don't exactly, as there ARE MANY different historical accounts. And in this obscurity of history, it is also difficult to determine if INDEED by 10 kings it is referring to ten literal kings or ten groups of kingdoms. But here are 3 accounts OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT COULD'VE BEEN THE TEN,

According to Joseph Mede
1. Britons
2. Saxons
3. Franks
4. Burgundians
5.Visigoths
6. Suevians and Alanes
7. Vandals
8. Almanes
9. Ostrogoths
10. Greeks

The works of the pious and profoundly-learned Joseph Mede, B.D., sometime fellow of Christ's Colledge in Cambridge, 1586-1638, https://books.google.com/books?id=s...page&q=joseph mede roman ten kingdoms&f=false

According to Bishop Lloyd
1. Hunns, who erected their kingdom in that part of Pannonia and Dacia, which was from them called Hungary, about A.D. 356.
2. Ostrogoths, who settled themselves in the countries that reach from Rhetia to Maesia, even to Thrace, about 377; and afterwards came into Italy under Alaricus, in 410.
3. Visigoths, who settled in the south parts of France, and in Catalonia, about 378.
4. Franks, who seized upon part of Germany and Gaul, A.D. 410.
5. Vandals, who settled in Spain; afterwards set up their kingdom in Africa, A.D. 407; their king Gensericus sacked Rome, 455.
6. Suevians and Alans, who seized the western parts of Spain, A.D. 407; and invaded Italy, 457.
7. Burgundians, who came out of Germany, into that part of Gaul called from them Burgundy, 407.
8. Herules, Rugians, and Thoringians, who settled in Italy under Odoacer, about A.D. 476.
9. Saxons, who made themselves masters of Great Britain about the same time, 476.
10. Longobards, called likewise Gopidae, who settled in Germany, about Magdeburg, A.D. 383; and afterwards succeeded the Heruli and Thuringi in Hungary, about the year 826.

A critical commentary and paraphrase on the Old and New Testament and the Apocrypha, Published 1822, https://books.google.com/books?id=X..., which was from them called Hungary,&f=false

According to Sir Isaac Newton
1. The kingdom of the VANDALS and ALANS in SPAIN
and AFRICA.
2. The kingdom of the SUEVIANS in SPAIN.
3. The kingdom of the VISIGOTHS.
4. The kingdom of the ALANS in GALLIA.
5. The kingdom of the BURGUNDIANS.
6. The kingdom of the FRANKS.
7. The kingdom of the BRITAINS.
8. The kingdom of the HUNNS.
9. The kingdom of the LOMBARDS.
10. The kingdom of RAVENNA.

Sir Isaac Newton's Daniel and the Apocalypse, (GO TO CHAPTER VI TITLED "OF THE TEN KINGDOMS REPRESENTED BY THE TEN HORNS OF THE FOURTH BEAST"), https://archive.org/stream/sirisaacnewtonsd00newtiala/sirisaacnewtonsd00newtiala_djvu.txt

Regardless of WHO EXACTLY THESE TEN HORNS ARE, the prophecy states that WHATEVER MODERN DAY NATIONS CORRESPOND TO THEM, that they give their AUTHORITY TO THE EURO (BEAST). Is this happening already? YES. Spain, Britain, France, Italy, and Germany have already joined the EURO and are known to descend from these these ten horns. There are MANY other modern day nations that have joined as well. The list of countries can be found here,

EUROPA - Countries

When looking at the link above, the map of the countries that have joined LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE.

The prophecy states that THESE TEN HORNS THAT GIVE THEIR POWER TO THE BEAST WILL HATE THE WHORE. The scripture says, they will cause her to be desolate, cause her to be naked, shall devour her flesh, and shall incinerate her with fire. This scriptures indicates that the Vatican will be ransacked and burned with fire by the TEN HORNS THAT GIVE THEIR POWER TO THE BEAST. Has this happened yet? No, the Vatican still stands, but if the TEN IN ONE ACCORD DESTROY THE VATICAN, it stands to reason that the destruction of the Vatican will likely come from within the European nations that GIVE THEIR AUTHORITY TO THE EURO at some time later in the future.

Going further, the scripture identifies the woman as the "great city", having kingship over the kings of the earth. Notice the word "kingship" here. It's not necessarily conveying DIRECT rulership over the kings of the earth, but rather, a "leadership" that influences that kings of the earth, which is what we see now concerning the Vatican.

What is conveyed in the whore RIDING this beast? That the Vatican is a MAJOR advocate in the formation of this EURO beast. The Vatican advocates for it and influences the birthing of this newly united European kingdom. So although she was once the first beast of the sea, she has now morphed into a separate entity that now rides and advocated the formation of the European nation beast beneath her.

Now that we've identified the whore and the beast she rides, let jump back a few chapters in Revelation back to the beast of the sea,

The first thing to note is that this beast is the ALMOST SAME beast that the WHORE rides a few chapters later, but THIS particular vision of the BEAST pertains to RULE OF THE PAPACY BEFORE before it morphs into the whore of Babylon that rides BEAST WHEN THE 8TH HEAD IS FORMING, which is now what we see as the EURO, that has the same kind of REPUBLIC government as the original OLD ROMAN empire. This beast is said to RISE from the sea, indicating many kinds of peoples and nations. Did the roman empire grow from within many kinds of people? Yes. We've already identified the 7 heads as the Ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, and the Ottomans. Who are the ten horns with diadems? They are the 10 broken up kingdoms or kings of the Roman Empire, in which there is much historical obscurity as to who they are exactly. These ten are also the ten horns of the Book of Daniel,

Its important to bring up the book of Daniel now because it further describes this beast at the time of its breakup into ten kings, and then the "little horn" comes which brings forth the papacy. This "little horn" as the papacy, was in fact the "antichrist" the church then were waiting for. The one that would begin persecuting the church. But even before this "antichrist" came into existence, Daniel predicted the messiah would first come, then the "antichrist" later would come as the "little horn",

In the King James Version of the bible, these verses are translated this way (helps give some clarity),

This is the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel, which is a 490 year prediction based on a prophetic day represents a literal year, so (70 prophetic weeks = 490 prophetic days = 490 literal years). The 490 years commences from the delivery of the word to rebuild Jerusalem, "from the delivery of the word to respond and to build Jerusalem" to the time of Jesus Christ "anointed one leading" to finish off transgression, bring an end to sin, make reconciliation for iniquity, bring in eternal righteousness, seal up vision and prophecy, and anoint the most holy, being Jesus Christ. Its in the midst of the 70th week, that Jesus Christ causes sacrifices to cease and at the end of the 70th week confirms the covenant and completes the 70 weeks prophecy (490 years). There is no secret 7 year future "tribulation", the 70 weeks are consecutive years, they don't just stop at 69 weeks, then resume at the 70th week over 2,000 years later as many believe. The judgment of the destruction and desolation of Jerusalem and the temple came after the fulfillment of this 70 weeks prophecy.

It was AFTER these events, that the "little horn" would come which would BRING FORTH THE "PAPACY", OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE "ANTICHRIST", and here we have one scripture pertaining indicating the anticipation of this "antichrist",

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PART 4

Here Paul is INDICATING that BEFORE the second coming of Jesus Christ, the "son of destruction" will appear first, and that the "defection", or falling away will come first. The "falling away" was revealed in this false church that emerged as the papacy. Here we have some other scriptures pertaining to his coming "apostasy" and "falling away",

These were warnings of this "falling away" that was to come. And here were more mentions of it,

This "antichrist" they were waiting for came as the seat of the papacy as the "little horn" in Daniel. Does this little horn exist today? Yes, in Revelation it existed as the beast of the sea, and now today we see it as the whore of Babylon, and it will continue to exist until its destruction by the modern day European nations that pertain to the ten horns that give their authority to the euro. This destruction comes first before the coming of Jesus Christ. This will be a sign that the end of the eon draws very near to his second coming.

How does Daniel further describe this "little horn"? He says,

The angel interprets this part of the vision to Daniel as,

Where do these ten kings come from? From the breakup of the FOURTH BEAST of DANIEL, which is the Roman Empire. The "little horn", THEN HUMBLES THREE OF THE TEN WHEN HE COMES. Did this happen in history? Yes. Do we know which of the TEN EXACTLY? Not for certain. It is difficult to tell because we don't even know for certain into which ten kingdoms the roman empire broke into, as there are many different accounts of history, so if we don't really know which the ten are exactly, then it is also difficult to tell which 3 this little horn subdued, but we have TWO DATES that coincide with the "time and times and half a time" IN RELATION TO THE TIME OF THE "LITTLE HORN" WILL ACT AS THE ANTICHRIST THAT PERSECUTES THE SAINTS (3 1/2 PROPHETIC YEARS = 42 PROPHETIC MONTHS = 1,260 PROPHETIC DAYS = 1,260 LITERAL YEARS), and those dates ARE 538 A.D. - 1798 A.D.,

Justinian issued his Justinian Code decree which made the Pope the legal "Head of all the Holy Churches." This decree fully established the papacy's power over all of Christianity in Western Europe. Justinians decree went into effect in 538 A.D.

https://books.google.com/books?id=3...RD THE MOST SACRED EMPEROR JUSTINIAN.&f=false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Juris_Civilis

From THIS TIME of 538 A.D., and adding the 1,260 years we arrive at the 1798 A.D., to the time of the French Revolution. THIS IS THE TIME OF THE PERSECUTION OF THE SAINTS BY THE ANTICHRIST, WHICH WAS THE POPE. The papal government was overthrown and abolished by Napoleon. The pope was taken prisoner and then later died in exile.

THIS 1,260 YEAR PROPHECY COINCIDES WITH THE 42 MONTH MONTH PROPHECY OF THE BEAST OF THE SEA DESCRIBED IN REVELATION,

So therefore, TAKING ALL THESE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT, IT STANDS TO CONCLUDE THAT THE "LITTLE HORN" IN DANIEL IS IN FACT ALSO THE BEAST OF THE SEA IN REVELATION. So lets backtrack where we LAST left off in the passage in Revelation concerning the RISE of the BEAST OF THE SEA,

The first thing to note in this scripture is that this beast has the characteristics of a leopard, a bear, and a lion. When looking back in scripture, do we see any kingdoms resembling these things? YES. THESE ARE THE FIRST THREE KINGDOMS IN DANIEL'S FOUR KINGDOM PREDICTION.

This FIRST ONE WAS BABYLON (LION). Then we have,

This SECOND ONE WAS THE MEDO-PERSIANS (BEAR). Then we have,

The THIRD WAS THE GREEKS (LEOPARD), then what came next? THE ROMANS, so it stands to conclude that this BEAST is ITSELF THE FOURTH OF THE FOUR BEASTS OF DANIEL, SO HERE WE HAVE YET ANOTHER CLUE INDICATING THAT THIS BEAST PERTAINS TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

So here we must ask, which head was wounded? Before answering this, we need to jump a few chapters forward in a scripture I referenced earlier concerning the WHORE RIDING THE BEAST. Remember, THIS BEAST OF THE EARTH COMES FIRST, THEN THE WHORE RIDING THE BEAST COMES SECOND, THE BEAST OF THE SEA MORPHS INTO THE WHORE OF BABLYON WHILE THE NEW BEAST SHE RIDES COMES FORTH INTO EXISENCE, THIS NEW BEAST SHE RIDES IS THE EURO. Lets look at this scripture,

Notice how in the "WOUNDING" (OF THIS BEAST OF THE SEA) and in the "WAS, AND IS NOT, AND IS ABOUT TO ASCEND" (THE BEAST THE WHORE RIDES) that ALL THE EARTH WONDERS AFTER IT. Although the two visions are two points in time far from each other, these two instances ARE RELATED, in fact they are the same thing in two different visions. So how do they coincide? The the WOUND BEING HEALED happens to the 6TH HEAD (ROMAN EMPIRE) in the FIRST BEAST OF THE SEA, which coincides with the "was, and is not, and is about to come" as the 6th head then coming back as the 8th head of the vision of the whore riding the beast. So the euro we see forming is in fact the HEALED 6th HEAD of the first beast of the sea, and the 8th head of the beast that has the whore riding it.

And they did obeisance to the dragon, to the one giving the authority to the beast. And they did obeisance to the beast, saying, Who is likened to the beast? And who is mighty to wage war with it? (Revelation of John 13:4 [ABP])

This is the feeling conveyed by the people of the earth in relation the the Roman Empire. It was one of the GREATEST EMPIRES in history. It had both greatness in culture, wealth, power, military might, and in its original REPUBLIC form of government that lasted for around 450 years before it was ruled by emperors.

This beast of the sea that started with the ROMAN REPUBLIC, then morphed INTO AN EMPIRE OF EMPERORS, WHICH THEN MORPHED INTO THE PAPACY, WHICH BROUGHT FORTH THE FULFILLMENT OF THE 42 MONTH PROPHECY (1,260 LITERAL YEARS) OF THE PERSECUTION AND KILLING OF THE SAINTS UNDER THE POPE. How else do we know that this beast relates to the papacy? IT BLASPHEMES, OR SPEAKS GREAT THINGS IN RELATION TO GOD. Remember, a "blasphemy" is something GREAT AND FALSE said concerning things related to God. So it stands to reason that if this beast is BLASPHEMING that it is SPEAKING FALSE THINGS CONCERNING THINGS OF GOD.

Here we see THREE THINGS THE POPES HAVE DONE TO BLASPHEME, OR RATHER, SPEAK GREAT FALSE THINGS CONCERNING GOD,

IT HAS SPOKEN GREAT FALSE TEACHINGS RELATED THE FATHER, "his name".
IT HAS SPOKEN GREAT FALSE TEACHINGS RELATED TO JESUS CHRIST, "his tent", when Jesus Christ was on the earth, as his fleshly mortal body represented an "earthly tent" before it became an immortal body
IT HAS SPOKEN GREAT FALSE TEACHINGS RELATED TO ANGELS, "encamping in the heaven".

So this description of the beast gets EVEN MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE THINGS IT BLASPHEMES (SPEAKS GREAT FALSE THINGS) ABOUT. WHAT OTHER ENTITY ON EARTH HAS SPOKEN GREAT FALSE THINGS CONCERNING THESE THREE? CERTAINLY THE THE PAPACY.

Through its 1,260 year rule it was given power to kill the saints of Jesus Christ. Its entire influence spanned the entire earth, which is why it is also said, "and was given to him authority over every tribe, and language, and nation".

And they did obeisance to him, all the ones dwelling upon the earth, whose [*2*has not been written *1*name] in the book of the life of the lamb, of the one having being slain from the founding of the world. (Revelation of John 13:8 [ABP])

WHOEVER FOLLOWED AFTER THE PAPACY IS ONE WHO HAS "WORSHIPED" THE BEAST, AS IT WAS THE SEAT OF THE "ANTICHRIST" DURING ITS RULE AS THE BEAST OF THE SEA.

This scripture was a prediction of TWO THINGS. The first being the taking into CAPTIVITY. At the end of the papal rule in the french revolution, the pope was TAKEN INTO CAPTIVITY. The second prediction is saying, "whoever kills by the sword, by the sword he must die". Has this happened yet? No. THIS PREDICTION COINCIDES WHEN THE WHORE IS BURNT WITH FIRE BY THE TEN THAT GIVE THEIR AUTHORITY TO THE EURO, WHICH IS A FUTURE DESTRUCTION OF THE VATICAN, AND AFTER THAT IS THE COMING OF THE LORD EVEN CLOSER. Lets move on,

Here we have a SECOND NATION ASCENDING. It is said to rise out of the EARTH instead of the sea. So if the SEA INDICATES DENSELY POPULATED AREA, THE RISING FROM THE EARTH MUST INDICATE THE OPPOSITE, A LOW POPULATED AREA. Have we seen this anywhere in the world? Yes. The United States of America. It rose in what was called the "new world", in a land not highly populated. It was on July 4, 1776 A.D. that IT DECLARED ITSELF AN INDEPENDENT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AROUND 22 YEARS PRIOR TO THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE PAPACY. IT CAME FORTH FROM THE FIRST BEAST INTO THIS "NEW WORLD", since it came from European nations. What did it rise as? IT ROSE AS A REPUBLIC, WHICH REFLECTS WHAT THE FIRST BEAST ORIGINALLY WAS. What are these two horns? They represent the seat of the presidency and of congress. Why not the supreme court? The supreme court is NOT a ruling power, as in it does not command an army nor does it legislate laws. Instead, it merely decides on cases BROUGHT to it, and interprets the highest laws of the country to make decisions on those cases. There is much debate that exists concerning the authority of the supreme court, and it has grown in power over its time in existence, but that was not the original intent in the framing of the constitution. In fact, the supreme court is only mentioned in two sentences in the constitution,

"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Three_of_the_United_States_Constitution

What else is said about this beast? That it is "likened to a lamb". What are some characteristics of a lamb? They symbolize "innocence", and they were also used to describe believers in Jesus Christ as his flock, so it also conveys a sense of "godliness". Does the United States convey these things? Absolutely. Most esteem the United States as a "righteous nation", a "nation of God", a "nation that is the light of the world", "a nation that gives freedom to man". These are all sayings that ARE VERY COMMON among people describing the United States. Yet the scripture also states that is speaks as a dragon. How does the United States speak as a dragon? It speaks as a NATION OF GREAT POWER AND MILITARY MIGHT. So it is both a nation that is "seemingly righteous", yet it is also a nation that acts as a MILITARY POWER over the entire world. Lets read on,

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teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 5

Does the United States convey the same influence and power as the papacy of the first beast? Absolutely. The United States is a WORLD POWER that influences all tribes, nations, and languages JUST AS THE FIRST BEAST. So that is why it is said that the SAME AUTHORITY OF THE FIRST BEAST OF THE SEA IS GIVEN TO IT. It also says that it causes all the ones dwelling on the earth to "worship" the first beast, "who was cured of the wound". How does it do this? By causing the whole world to adopt its same form of government and way of life. I WILL DISCUSS THIS SHORTLY, BUT LETS JUMP TO THE NEXT VERSE,

This is another clue as to how powerful THIS BEAST IS, THAT IT CAUSES FIRE TO RAIN DOWN FROM HEAVEN. DO WE SEE THIS AT A LITERAL FACT IN THE UNITED STATES? Yes. Look at Nagaski and Heroshima.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nag...ved=0ahUKEwjiosOeib7JAhVCPiYKHdyKCHUQ_AUIBigB
https://www.google.com/search?q=nag...AUIBigB#safe=off&tbm=isch&q=heroshima+bombing

Look at its military power with the use of airplanes that can drop bombs upon nations.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nag...safe=off&tbm=isch&q=american+stealth+bombings
https://www.google.com/search?q=nag...fe=off&tbm=isch&q=american++iraq+air+bombings

When has there even been a nation that can do these things? Its power is so great that it causes the world to be in awe at it. Hence WHY THE WORLD FOLLOWS IT AFTER IT, HENCE WHY THE WORLD WANTS TO BE LIKE AMERICA. BECAUSE OF ITS INCREDIBLE STRENGTH AND MILITARY MIGHT. YET AMERICA REFLECTS WHAT THE FIRST BEAST ORIGINALLY WAS AS A POWERFUL REPUBLIC.

So in its INCREDIBLE POWER, it misleads THE ENTIRE WORLD, and it TELLS THE WORLD TO MAKE AN IMAGE TO THE BEAST WHOSE WOUND WAS HEALED. What is an image? An image is SOMETHING LESSER THAT REFLECTS SOMETHING LARGER. So if a BEAST IS A NATION, WHAT WOULD AN IMAGE OF A NATION BE? IT WOULD BE A LESSER NATION THAT REFLECTS A LARGER NATION, so if we have an "image of the beast", that means A LESSER NATION THAT REFLECTS THE FIRST BEAST OF THE SEA... AND WHAT DID WE SAY THE BEAST OF THE SEA WAS TO BECOME WHEN IT IS HEALED? A REPUBLIC. So therefore, it stands to reason that an image of the healed beast (REPUBLIC) is a lesser nation that becomes a republic as well. Do we see that in the world? Absolutely. America HAS PUSHED DEMOCRACY (REPUBLIC) UPON THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. The United States has either been involved in wars directly overthrowing governments and setting up democracies, or it has covertly ARMED peoples to help overthrow governments, has creating puppet democracies, and has furthered its interests in MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD. This is what is indicated in the "causes the people of the earth to setup an image of the beast". Here is a list of some countries where the United states overthrew, or attempted to overthrow (an * indicated a successful overthrow),

China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *

Overthrowing other people’s governments: The Master List – William Blum

Obviously, only God knows the exact number of countries, but the United States is without a doubt FULFILLING PROPHECY AS A COUNTRY CAUSING THE WORLD TO SETUP IMAGES OF THE BEAST, MEANING DEMOCRATIC (REPUBLIC) GOVERNMENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHICH IS WAS THE FIRST BEAST ORIGINALLY WAS. IT DOES SO BY FORCE OR BY MERE VIRTUE OF ITS GREATNESS, AND MUCH OF THE WORLD, IF NOT FORCED TO SETUP DEMOCRATIVE GOVERNMENT, SET THEM UP THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE LIKE AMERICA.

This verse indicates that the "images" of the beast have autonomy in themselves, which is WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD. They are not necessarily CONTROLLED DIRECTLY as it would be in an empire, hence why the scripture refers to them as "images of the beast that are given breath to speak on their own". We also see evidences that in countries where the United States has setup democracies, there is OPPOSITION AND WARS AND RESISTANCE, such as wee see the middle east. So the scripture with, ANY THAT DOES NOT WORSHIP THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST IS KILLED is fulfilled in THOSE WHO OPPOSE AND FIGHT AGAINST THESE NEW DEMOCRATIC (REPUBLIC) GOVERNMENTS ARE KILLED. Lets continue,

This scripture is indicating that WITHIN THIS BEAST NATION, YOU NEED EITHER OF THREE THINGS TO BUY OR SELL, YOU NEED,

THE IMPRINT, OTHERWISE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE "MARK", THAT CAN BE RECEIVED ON YOUR FOREHEAD OR RIGHT HAND
OR THE NAME OF THE BEAST
OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME

HAVING ANY OF THESE THREE WILL ALLOW YOU TO BUY OR SELL. OF THESE THREE WAYS TO TRANSACT, ONLY THE "IMPRINT" ON THE RIGHT HAND OR FOREHEAD BEARS THE PENALTY OF THE JUDGMENT OF FIRE. Lets analyze the first, what is an "imprint"? It designates OWNERSHIP, but IS NOT A LITERAL MARK ON A FOREHEAD OR HAND.

This scripture is talking about the 144,000. The sealing on their foreheads is conveying a SPIRITUAL meaning, not that they would literally be walking on the Earth with the title "Belongs to God" on their foreheads. So therefore it stands to reason that the IMPRINT, otherwise known as the "mark", is SPIRITUAL as well.

So what does the "imprint" on THEIR FOREHEADS OR UPON THEIR RIGHT HAND convey? It conveys THOUGHTS OR ACTIONS. Meaning that WHATEVER this SPIRITUAL IMPRINT is, people's THOUGHTS OR ACTIONS circle around THE THING CONCERNING THE IMPRINT, and that IN PEOPLE GIVING ALL THEIR THOUGHTS OR ACTIONS CONCERNING THE IMPRINT, THEY ARE IN FACT COMING UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF THE BEAST THAT GAVE IT. So what does the scripture also say concerning the imprint? That this IMPRINT IS A WAY TO BUY OR SELL. Is it the ONLY way to BUY OR SELL? No, the scripture is affirming THAT THERE ARE TWO other ways to buy and sell, and that WITHOUT ANY OF THE THREE YOU CANNOT DO ANY TRANSACTIONS, BUT OF THE THREE, THIS IS THE WICKED ONE. So what does the imprint spiritually convey that can be used to buy or sell?

CONTINUE TO PART 6

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 6

The IMPRINT of the beast is SOCIAL SECURITY AND ITS DEBT OF INTEREST AND USURY BASED SYSTEM. THIS IMPRINT, OF ALL THREE TYPES OF WAYS TO BUY OR SELL UNDER THIS BEAST, BEARS THE PENALTY OF THE JUDGMENT OF GEHENNA, THE GREAT FIRE TO COME, AS IT IS LATER SAID,

But why is the IMPRINT this particular system? There are several great evils concerning this financial system that most are unaware of. The first being the benefit of financial gain upon death in relation to the social security program. People pay into it and then at a later time, money is paid to beneficiaries when the person dies. The death benefit isn't the only evil thing, but also the retirement benefits that are paid to the person at a later time. What makes it evil? This is a FORM OF USURY, which is not to be confused with INTEREST, which is another thing and in itself a wicked thing as well. The modern day definition of usury equates it to interest, and although they both can exist in certain types of financial agreements, they are in fact two different things. All INTEREST BEARING DEBTS ARE A FORM OF USURY, BUT NOT ALL USURY IS RELATED TO THE GAIN OF INTEREST FROM DEBT. The sin of INTEREST and USURY is such a grave sin that it was even punishable by death according to the scriptures,

So lets DEFINE INTEREST. It is the GIVING OF MONEY OR ANYTHING OF VALUE, AND CHARGING AN AMOUNT FOR THE DEBT THAT WAS GIVEN. BOTH THE PERSON GIVING AND THE PERSON RECEIVING A DEBT OF INTEREST AND AGREEING TO THIS ARE GUILTY OF A SIN.

And what is USURY? It can be RELATED TO THE GAIN OF INTEREST FROM DEBT, BUT IT IN FACT ENCOMPASSES AN EVEN LARGER SCOPE, IT DEALS WITH PUTTING OUT OF MONEY OR A THING OF VALUE, THEN AT A LATER TIME RECEIVING MONEY OR A THING OF VALUE THAT IS UNEQUAL. One example of usury is putting money in a modern day life insurance program, AT A LATER TIME PAYS OUT AN UNEQUAL AMOUNT OF MONEY to beneficiaries (usually a big lump sum of money), but in the case of a life insurance program, it pays when the policyholder dies. This is A FORM OF USURY. USURY IS AN UNEQUAL TRADE. The ONLY COMMERCIAL TRADE THAT IS ACTUALLY ACCEPTABLE to God is the GIVING OF AN ENTIRE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE GOOD OR SERVICE TO BE BOUGHT. If a person buys a pencil for $1 dollar, then they receive a pencil. Another form of usury is a DEBT OF INTEREST CONTRACT, where people make payments towards a debt at a compounded interest, and then once the debt is paid off after a set time, the property is then given to the debtee. Other forms of usury include automobile insurance programs, where payments are made to it, and at a FUTURE TIME, in the event of an accident, it PAYS OUT AN UNEQUAL AMOUNT WHICH IS STIPULATED DEPENDING ON THE EVENT THAT OCCURRED. IT IS UNEQUAL. THERE ARE MANY FORMS OF USURY AND FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS IN AMERICA THAT ARE WICKED, in fact, the whole financial system in America is BASED ON THE WICKEDNESS OF THESE TWO SINS. There is also a Proverb concerning unequal trade,

The other great evil related to social security, but has formed OUTSIDE the social security program itself, is the DEBT OF INTEREST AND USURY system that has risen tied to the social security number assigned to Americans. Americans are scored based on their ability and history to pay interest based debts so that they are able to incur MORE INTEREST BASED DEBTS. SO NOW DEBTS OF INTEREST HAVE RISEN IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ISSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT, WHERE PEOPLE CAN BUY OR SELL USING DEBTS OF INTEREST THAT ARE ROOTED AND ARE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS VERY NUMBER. What interest based debts are associated with the social security number? Mortgages to buy homes, auto loans to buy cars, credit cards to buy things, and SO MANY varying kinds of financial instruments that are based on a DEBTS OF INTEREST AND USURY and are CONNECTED WITH THIS VERY NUMBER ISSUED BY THE BEAST OF THE EARTH, WHICH IS THE UNITED STATES. Here are some other scriptures related to debts of interest,

And Paul finally declares concerning borrowing,

We are in fact instructed by Paul to NOT ENTER INTO ANY DEBTS, which FAR EXCEEDS THE ALLOWANCE OF NON-INTEREST DEBTS IN THE LAW OF MOSES. So Paul says, DO NOT ENTER INTO ANY DEBT, and what does Jesus Christ say?

He says IF YOU LEND, THEN EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN, WHICH MEANS GIVE FREELY. This also goes way beyond the debt laws of Moses were lending without interest was allowed. How do believers fulfill this saying? We see evidence in the Book of Acts of followers GIVING FREELY TO EACH OTHER AS EACH HAD NEED,

So we are in fact told by Paul and Jesus Christ, do not ENTER INTO ANY DEBTS AND GIVE FREELY. This is the NEW SPIRITUAL reality that FAR EXCEEDS THE LAW OF MOSES, YET IN BOTH TYPES, THE LAW OF MOSES AND THE SPIRITUAL LAW OF JESUS CHRIST, THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM OF AMERICA IS STILL WICKED.

Why do all of these complex financial systems exist? Because of the greed and the love of money men have. So in having THIS IMPRINT, people are then ABLE TO TRANSACT IN BUYING AND SELLING WITH THE USE OF DEBT, WHICH IS WHY OUT OF ALL THE THREE TYPES OF WAYS TO BUY OR SELL, THIS ONE BEARS THE PENALTY OF THE JUDGMENT OF FIRE. The IMPRINT is SPIRITUAL, BUT ANYONE INVOLVED IN THESE WICKED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT BEARS THE IMPRINT OF THE BEAST. Do we see that now in America? Yes. Look how many people CARE about their credit scores so that they can try to incur interest debts to buy things like houses and cars as one example. The IMPRINT of the beast is ALREADY HERE. IS HAVING A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ASSIGNED TO YOU EVIL? NO, as long as you DO NOT PAY INTO THE PROGRAM NOR INCUR DEBTS IN RELATION TO THE NUMBER, NOR ENGAGE IN THE USE OF WICKED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, such as life insurance programs, regular insurance programs, health insurance programs, automobile insurance programs, annuities, bonds, mutual funds, retirement programs, and the use of many other kinds of wicked financial instruments found in America that are also tied with this number. ALSO, YOU CAN VOLUNTARILY OPT OUT OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIAL SECURITY BASED ON RELIGIOUS BELIEF, AS IT IS A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM, AND ASIDE FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM, THE NUMBER ITSELF IT IS USED FOR TAXATION, WHICH ALL BELIEVERS OUGHT TO PAY. Is it difficult for Americans to buy things like houses and cars without incurring a debt? Yes. AND THATS WHY AMERICANS ENSLAVE THEMSELVES AND COME UNDER THE OWNERSHIP OF WICKED INTEREST DEBTS THAT COME FROM "THIS BEAST OF THE EARTH", to be able to BUY things and live "comfortable" or even "decadent" lives. So IN FACT, THEIR VERY THOUGHTS OR ACTIONS CENTER AROUND THIS VERY IMPRINT OF DEBT TO BE ABLE TO GET AND DO THE THINGS THEY WANT, AND THEY COME UNDER A BONDAGE, AN OWNERSHIP OF THE BEAST BEING IN THIS DEBT SYSTEM. THIS IS WHY THE THE USE OF THIS SYSTEM IS AN "IMPRINT" OF THE BEAST. The prophecy also states, "And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bondmen, that there should be given to them an imprint", do we not see that in America already? AT BIRTH, MOST EVERYONE IS NOW ASSIGNED A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER SO THAT WHEN THEY BECOME OF AGE THEY CAN START PUTTING MONEY INTO THIS WICKED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT AND USE THE NUMBER TO INCUR DEBTS TO BUY THINGS. AMERICA IS FULFILLING SCRIPTURE. Yet let me REITERATE SOMETHING HERE, FOR ANYONE BEING IN FEAR OF HAVING A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, having the number is not in itself what is evil, it is the USE of the number to PAY INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM, AND GET INTO DEBTS, AND WICKED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. The assignment of the number itself means nothing, IT IS THE ABSTINENCE OF MAKING USE OF ANY OF THESE WICKED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS THAT GOD CARES FOR.

Let's move on further, on what is the second way to buy or sell in this nation, which is called the "name of the beast",

The NAME of the beast is PAPER MONEY.

Why paper money? Paper money HAS NO TRUE VALUE IN ITSELF, except the VALUE THAT THE ISSUING GOVERNMENT GIVES IT. Before paper money existed, which is something that America brought into popularity to the world, all transactions were made with the use of gold currency or things that had value. So when people transact with the use of paper money, they are in fact transacting in the NAME OF THE UNITED STATES and in its promise that the paper they are using to BUY OR SELL has value. The paper money bears the NAME OF THE UNITED STATES and its seal. Is trading with paper money then evil? No, but it is a distinctive feature of the "beast of the earth" that helps us identify it even further and makes it truly distinct amongst all nations that have existed before it. Lets go on further to the third way of BUYING OR SELLING,

The NUMBER of the beast is the NUMBERING system of BANKS.

All transactions are made with the use of MERE numbers, that is made possible through the use of America's technology. There is not even an exchange of PAPER MONEY. Even the very cards that are issued out by banks HAVE NUMBERS, and even THOSE NUMBERS, WITHOUT THE USE OF THE ACTUAL CARD, can be used to make transactions on mediums like the internet. IT IS A SYSTEM OF NUMBERS, and through THIS SYSTEM, can people BUY OR SELL. Hence why it is said that men will be able to buy or sell WITH THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST as well. Is trading with this system evil? No, as long as interest is not incurred with any deposits made into it. This is just a THIRD form of buying and selling that also makes this beast VERY unique amongst any that have existed in the past,

Why is this form of payment ALSO said to be 666?

666 is a SPIRITUAL number, NOT A LITERAL NUMBER NAMING AN ENTITY SECRETLY CODED IN ITS NUMBER. Most of the things in the Book of Revelation pertain to old testament derived symbols that gives us clues that pertain to the actual literal thing represented in the symbol. Such as the color PURPLE, based on interpretation and usage in the old testament, we can affirm anything having the color purple will indicate "royalty" or "governmental power" of some sort. So does 666 pertain to anyone specifically in the old testament, as it says "for it is a number of a man"? Yes, it pertains to the man Solomon. Because of the greatness of Solomon, the Queen of Sheba GAVE him gold in the MEASURE OF 666, and also the merchants, and all the kings of the other side of the Jordan GAVE to Solomon.

So here we see the same kind of relationship of GIVING GOODS OF VALUE TO SOMEONE, SPIRITUALLY CONVEYING WHAT ONE DOES WITH A BANK IN GIVING, OR RATHER, DEPOSITING MONEY TO IT, TO THEN BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL. It would seem like too much of a coincidence that the 666 in Revelation relating to buying or selling (MONEY) ties WITH AN OCCURRENCE OF 666 IN ANOTHER SCRIPTURE, and that the other scripture ALSO RELATES TO SOMETHING OF VALUE (GOLD). So if we combine the entire scripture pertaining to the number of the beast, and then what is conveyed with the spiritual meaning of 666 as GIVING MONEY, or rather, DEPOSITING MONEY, we arrive at the conclusion that this scripture pertains to the use of BANKS, SINCE MONEY IS DEPOSITED (GIVEN) TO IT, and people are THEN ABLE TO BUY OR SELL, THROUGH IT, WITH THE USE OF NUMBERS, HENCE THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST.

ALL THESE 3 THINGS ARE ALREADY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INCLUDING THE IMPRINT OF THE BEAST. Regardless of what either of these three may morph into before the coming of Jesus Christ, the fact remains that THEY ARE ALREADY HERE.

CONTINUE TO PART 7

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

PART 7

Finally concluding this matter, the sum of the history and prophecies in Daniel, and in Revelation pertaining to the beasts and the whore, can be summarized with the following,

First came the Egpytians (1st head),
then came the the Assyrians (2nd head),
then came the Baylonians (3rd head),
then camme the Medo-Persians (4th head),
then came the Greeks (5th head),

then came the Romans (6th head) AS a republic first,
which broke into ten kings (10 horns with diadems) AFTER it had become an empire ruled by Emperors,
around this time came Jesus Christ, fulfilling the 70 weeks prophecy in Daniel from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to his first coming 490 years later,
at the end of the 70th week he is the one that was cut off, brought forth eternal righteousness, ended sacrifices, and confirmed a covenant with many,
shortly after this was the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple which was predicted by Daniel shortly after the 70th week,
which then led to the coming forth of an eleventh "little horn" that subdued three of the previous kings,
then "little horn" then became known as the "papacy", or the "antichrist", and the "beast of the sea",
the papacy fulfilled the "time, and times, and half a time", 3 and a 1/2 years (Daniel), or "42 month" (Revelation) prophecy which is equivalent to 1,260 literal years of persecution and killing of the saints,

during the reign of the papacy came forth the Ottomans (7th head),

around the end of the 1,260 prophecy of the papacy came forth the beast of the earth (United States),
shortly after the formation of the United States the papacy was abolished by the french revolution and the pope was taken captive,

then came the the re-establishment of the Vatican (more of a political church than a governmental power) in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty given by Benito Mussolini which brought forth the whore of babylon,
then the scattered 10 horns without diadems (which are now republic nations in europe) began giving their authority to the formation of the European Union BEAST (8th and final head),
which the Vatican rides (as it is also a major advocate of this union),
while this is happening the United States is expanding and promoting democracy all around the world as the "beast of the earth", or the "false prophet", which is also supported and closely allied with the EURO BEAST,
THESE TWO BEASTS CONTINUE TO GROW, AMERICA AND THE EURO, and SPREAD THEIR INTERESTS, FORM OF GOVERNMENT, CULTURE, AND FINANCIAL WAY OF LIFE ALL OVER THE WORLD,
while we HAVE YET to see the fulfillment of the destruction of the Vatican by EURO nations that descend from the 10 horns,
which then paves way to the coming of Jesus Christ some time after.

crossnote · Dec 9, 2015

Are you here for discussion or are you just gonna be spammin

49 · Dec 9, 2015

crossnote said:

This fella was banned a few weeks ago. He was here under the name cgaviria. Same style of posting, same beliefs, same everything. Posts a mile long and his opinion only. No room for discussion with this fella.

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

crossnote said:

I am now that I've created a topic and created material to discuss.

Willie-T · Dec 9, 2015

He's been back on for two hours, and he has flooded the forum with enough blathering to choke a goat.

crossnote · Dec 9, 2015

teknontheos said:

Count me out, I'm not a long post reader.

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

crossnote said:

That why I put a disclaimer in the beginning.

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

Willie-T said:

Common guys if you don't want to read what I'm posting then you are welcome to not to.

49 · Dec 9, 2015

teknontheos said:

Kinda makes it hard to not look, even if it is to scroll to the bottom in a matter of seconds as Willie commented in another of your threads. You have inundated the forum.

teknontheos · Dec 9, 2015

49 said:

4 topics on deep matters is inundating the forum? Common now give me a break. If you don't want to read my stuff, you are welcome to not read it, you can clearly see my username next to the titles of the threads.

49 · Dec 10, 2015

teknontheos said:

That didn't take long.

tanakh · Dec 10, 2015

Willie-T said:

LOL What a brilliant expression. Must remember to steal it sometime.

ukok102nak · Dec 10, 2015

:smoke: nice thread
:happy: we would also like to know your opinion
my brother about what would be the greatest nation
from this world shall reighn 10,000 years from now?

just askin

God bless us all always

:ty:

KenAllan · Dec 10, 2015

Its not that they do not want to read it, its more of an overload for them. You must realize not everyone on here has a college degree. Most barely made it out of High School. I read it and totally understood what you are saying.

I do understand why some are upset over what you posted. Maybe if you distilled it down to a page or two so they can handle it they might then read it.

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