There has been alot of discussion on here about sex before marrige im not gonna focus on that in this thread i want to focus on what marrige is... most people consider marrige having a ceromony an a pice of paper saying your married but here in the states we have what is consierd common law married and in less civililized places jumpin over a stick can be consierd marrige can we say that God will honor what some people consierd marrige an not what others do i dont think so he isnt the God of one country he is the God of all an if a certain group of peole concider jumping a stick marrige thwn i cant see why God wouldnt concider them married.... an if they consier themselves maeried becwuse of that y cant two people in a long turn loving relationship consider them selfs married an if they do why wouldnt God concider them so.
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Scripturally you are married when you both decide you are, but you should get the paperwork in order for everyone's peace of mind.
Scripturally you are married when you both decide you are, but you should get the paperwork in order for everyone's peace of mind.
Marriage is when two or more people that pledges to make a mutual agreement to serve or help another and never abandoned the other(s) ( and which it is called a covenant). But if one of the person doesn't keep their end of the bargain, has violated the agreement. And it is up to the one that hasn't violated the agreement to keep the agreement by giving the other seventy times seven chances or tossed it away.
Exodus 19:5
Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,
This is called adultery if you do,
Exodus 23:32Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods.
1 Corinthians 7:36If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married.
This verse is referring that young women and which they has very strong urge for sex, that they should get married, or if not and if they are weak, eventhough that they had pledge their life to God; it gives the devil a opportunity to make them fall.
1 Timothy 5:14So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.
Exodus 19:5
Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,
This is called adultery if you do,
Exodus 23:32Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods.
1 Corinthians 7:36If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married.
This verse is referring that young women and which they has very strong urge for sex, that they should get married, or if not and if they are weak, eventhough that they had pledge their life to God; it gives the devil a opportunity to make them fall.
1 Timothy 5:14So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.
We live in this world under a secular government. We are under God and His commands, but God asks us to obey the government as much as we can. It is always best to obey God, His instructions are for our benefit. If someone says they are only under spiritual law and refuse secular law, they often are simply not being honest. If something happens the innocent party has no protection, and they know it. God is worth following in this, too. If they mean to obey the spiritual law of marriage, they will willingly put this under secular regulations, too.
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mmm no one posted the scriptures about marriage yet. interesting.....
well I'll post them real quick. don't know how coherent I'll be, stayed up till midnight modifying a dress for my daughter's preschool graduation. for some reason white little girl dress aren't "in season" right now. lol what you can do with curtains and an old dress. lol...yep need sleep, rambling........what was I doing? ......marriage scriptures
Verses to help you see what a Godly marriage should be based upon:
Ephesians 5
[h=3][/h][SUP]22 [/SUP]Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. [SUP]23 [/SUP]For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, [SUP]26 [/SUP]that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, [SUP]27 [/SUP]that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. [SUP]28 [/SUP]So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For we are members of His body,[SUP][d][/SUP] of His flesh and of His bones. [SUP]31 [/SUP]“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]32 [/SUP]This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. [SUP]33 [/SUP]Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
[h=3]1 Corinthians 7[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Principles of Marriage[/h]7 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; [SUP]9 [/SUP]but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
[h=3]Keep Your Marriage Vows[/h][SUP]10 [/SUP]Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. [SUP]11 [/SUP]But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. [SUP]15 [/SUP]But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?
[h=3]Live as You Are Called[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Was anyone called while circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Was anyone called while uncircumcised? Let him not be circumcised. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Let each one remain in the same calling in which he was called. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Were you called while a slave? Do not be concerned about it; but if you can be made free, rather use it. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For he who is called in the Lord while a slave is the Lord’s freedman. Likewise he who is called while free is Christ’s slave. [SUP]23 [/SUP]You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Brethren, let each one remain with God in that state in which he was called.
[h=3]To the Unmarried and Widows[/h][SUP]25 [/SUP]Now concerning virgins: I have no commandment from the Lord; yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord in His mercy has made trustworthy. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress—that it is good for a man to remain as he is: [SUP]27 [/SUP]Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. [SUP]28 [/SUP]But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, [SUP]30 [/SUP]those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, [SUP]31 [/SUP]and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. [SUP]33 [/SUP]But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. [SUP]34 [/SUP]There is[SUP][a][/SUP] a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. [SUP]35 [/SUP]And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry. [SUP]37 [/SUP]Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin,[SUP][b][/SUP] does well. [SUP]38 [/SUP]So then he who gives her[SUP][c][/SUP] in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. [SUP]40 [/SUP]But she is happier if she remains as she is, according to my judgment—and I think I also have the Spirit of God.
[h=3]1 Peter 3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Submission to Husbands[/h]3 Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, [SUP]2 [/SUP]when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— [SUP]4 [/SUP]rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, [SUP]6 [/SUP]as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.
[h=3]A Word to Husbands[/h][SUP]7 [/SUP]Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
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those are the ones that come to mind when the topic of how to base your life around a godly marriage comes up. we can go deeper into the scriptures and pull other parallel scriptures to expand our understanding of the ones posted above, but I'm going to have to plead a sleepy brain.
.lol don't even know if i make sense to myself right now.
well I'll post them real quick. don't know how coherent I'll be, stayed up till midnight modifying a dress for my daughter's preschool graduation. for some reason white little girl dress aren't "in season" right now. lol what you can do with curtains and an old dress. lol...yep need sleep, rambling........what was I doing? ......marriage scriptures
Verses to help you see what a Godly marriage should be based upon:
Ephesians 5
[h=3][/h][SUP]22 [/SUP]Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. [SUP]23 [/SUP]For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, [SUP]26 [/SUP]that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, [SUP]27 [/SUP]that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. [SUP]28 [/SUP]So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For we are members of His body,[SUP][d][/SUP] of His flesh and of His bones. [SUP]31 [/SUP]“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]32 [/SUP]This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. [SUP]33 [/SUP]Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
[h=3]1 Corinthians 7[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Principles of Marriage[/h]7 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; [SUP]9 [/SUP]but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
[h=3]Keep Your Marriage Vows[/h][SUP]10 [/SUP]Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. [SUP]11 [/SUP]But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. [SUP]15 [/SUP]But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?
[h=3]Live as You Are Called[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Was anyone called while circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Was anyone called while uncircumcised? Let him not be circumcised. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Let each one remain in the same calling in which he was called. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Were you called while a slave? Do not be concerned about it; but if you can be made free, rather use it. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For he who is called in the Lord while a slave is the Lord’s freedman. Likewise he who is called while free is Christ’s slave. [SUP]23 [/SUP]You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Brethren, let each one remain with God in that state in which he was called.
[h=3]To the Unmarried and Widows[/h][SUP]25 [/SUP]Now concerning virgins: I have no commandment from the Lord; yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord in His mercy has made trustworthy. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress—that it is good for a man to remain as he is: [SUP]27 [/SUP]Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. [SUP]28 [/SUP]But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, [SUP]30 [/SUP]those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, [SUP]31 [/SUP]and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. [SUP]33 [/SUP]But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. [SUP]34 [/SUP]There is[SUP][a][/SUP] a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. [SUP]35 [/SUP]And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]But if any man thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, if she is past the flower of youth, and thus it must be, let him do what he wishes. He does not sin; let them marry. [SUP]37 [/SUP]Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his virgin,[SUP][b][/SUP] does well. [SUP]38 [/SUP]So then he who gives her[SUP][c][/SUP] in marriage does well, but he who does not give her in marriage does better.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. [SUP]40 [/SUP]But she is happier if she remains as she is, according to my judgment—and I think I also have the Spirit of God.
[h=3]1 Peter 3[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Submission to Husbands[/h]3 Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, [SUP]2 [/SUP]when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— [SUP]4 [/SUP]rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For in this manner, in former times, the holy women who trusted in God also adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husbands, [SUP]6 [/SUP]as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, whose daughters you are if you do good and are not afraid with any terror.
[h=3]A Word to Husbands[/h][SUP]7 [/SUP]Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
.............
those are the ones that come to mind when the topic of how to base your life around a godly marriage comes up. we can go deeper into the scriptures and pull other parallel scriptures to expand our understanding of the ones posted above, but I'm going to have to plead a sleepy brain.
.lol don't even know if i make sense to myself right now.
I don't mind gay marriage or straight marriage. What annoys me is when people don't marry for love. They marry for money, or an arranged marriage or what not. It's true that sometimes you could say 2 people are in love but they aren't the best for each other. But marrying for money is...well to me, frankly sick. You pretend to love someone just so you can get their money? Say I love you, but don't really mean it. Give gifts that you hope to get paid back for in the end. Stuff like that. And don't get me started on arranged marriages. Sick stuff.
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i agree with you on everything but the gay issue is just....well....wrong....i dont wanna get started on that. thats a whole new thread topic there.....just please dont tell me there's nothing wrong with it cuz i can point u to a whole lotta scripture says otherwise. thats a major topic i'll throw down on. anyway.....