personally I only believe their unredeemed bodies are dead because
In this flesh by the new life found in the resurrection of Christ is now alive meaning God is prestn with us living ion andthrough us.
Now when I leave this body and it physically is dead my Spirit goes directly to be with God, In the body here God present iwth us and when out of this body we are present with God[/QUOT
The scripture you bring into view is that of 2 Corithians 5:8 "We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and present with the Lord."
I know this will sound strange, but I almost wish Paul hadn't said that. That scripture confuses people and cause many to beleive the dead are alive and aware. They are not. The dead know nothing.
Paul uses this same wording in 1 corithians 5:3.. but, thankfully he placed in paretheses (as though i were present). In other words, he wasn't realy there, but he was supportive of what was going on there.
As we near the end, there will be only 2 distinct types of people. Those who keep the Commandments of God & those who do not.
An interesting thought: Those who keep the Commandments of God in the last days will not beleive the dead are alive.
But,, those who do not keep the Commandments of God, will believe the dead are alive
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! whether the dead are dead and as you put it their Spirits are dead or not, how can this fit scripture and th eothers Iam posting then
John 14:16And I will ask the Father, and he will give
you another Advocate, who will
never leave you.
Hebrews 13:5
Don’t love money; be satisfied with what
you have. For God has said, “I will
never fail
you. I will
never abandon
you.”
Romans 4:17That is what the Scriptures mean when God told him, “I have made you the father of many nations.” This happened because Abraham believed in the God who brings the
dead back to life and who creates new things out of nothing.
God is talking about dead flesh that we are born with and by us agreeing with God that we are dead and go to the cross and die with Christ at the cross then God can bring us back to life at the resurrection of the cross as he alrwadt did his Son, beiing no longer of the flesh now of the Spirit of God being born again. Flesh is what is dead, Spirit of God that we are born agian unto is alive forever more and never dies, norever will
The battle today here and now is Flesh or God's Spirit
Ephesians 6:12For we are not fighting against
flesh-
and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers
and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world,
and against evil
spirits in the heavenly places.
[h=3]Galatians 5:16-22[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[h=3]Walking in the Spirit[/h][SUP]
16 [/SUP]I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. [SUP]
17 [/SUP]For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. [SUP]
18 [/SUP]But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
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19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, [SUP]
20 [/SUP]idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, [SUP]
21 [/SUP]envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told
you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
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22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
The above is not accomplished by any means of any work(s) of the flesh at all
It is and was accomplished by God through the cross death of, burial of as proof of the death, and most importantly the resurrection where life in the Spirit is sustained forever