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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Jesus cast out demons. He gives us that authority too, that is from His Father in Heaven, no ? ' you, too, can cast out demons
I don't want to re-hash this with you, because it's just a crazy argument, sarasara--of doctrine--and, why be divisive with each other, we are with the same foundation in Christ, but, I do believe, exactly what I said, and, it's crazy, in MY opinion, that people can dismiss people out in the WORLD that have been prayed over 'in the name of Jesus' and a demon/evil spirit has been loosed from them. Of course, there is NO power in us, it's all His power, working THROUGH us, milady .
So, is that a good thing, you think. When a lady is caught up in sexual sin and she just can't shake it, and, there is a reason why that is a DEMON inside , then , don't you think Jesus can bring GLORY to Himself by our casting out that demon. People actually get excorcised of demons, sarasara, it's true, unless it's just a bunch of crazy people saying that 'I was in a demon-possessed state and someone prayed "in the name of Jesus" over me and I was FREEEED !!! "
Are they lying, sarasara, or, are the 1000s of people who CLAIM this same release or vindication telling the truth
And, anyway, the Lord leads, you believe what you want and I know your faith is in Him, I do not question that, so, don't think I am doing that, I speak in Love to you always,. milady, like I do ALL miladies on c.c.
Jesus cast out demons. He gives us that authority too, that is from His Father in Heaven, no ? ' you, too, can cast out demons
I don't want to re-hash this with you, because it's just a crazy argument, sarasara--of doctrine--and, why be divisive with each other, we are with the same foundation in Christ, but, I do believe, exactly what I said, and, it's crazy, in MY opinion, that people can dismiss people out in the WORLD that have been prayed over 'in the name of Jesus' and a demon/evil spirit has been loosed from them. Of course, there is NO power in us, it's all His power, working THROUGH us, milady .
So, is that a good thing, you think. When a lady is caught up in sexual sin and she just can't shake it, and, there is a reason why that is a DEMON inside , then , don't you think Jesus can bring GLORY to Himself by our casting out that demon. People actually get excorcised of demons, sarasara, it's true, unless it's just a bunch of crazy people saying that 'I was in a demon-possessed state and someone prayed "in the name of Jesus" over me and I was FREEEED !!! "
Are they lying, sarasara, or, are the 1000s of people who CLAIM this same release or vindication telling the truth
And, anyway, the Lord leads, you believe what you want and I know your faith is in Him, I do not question that, so, don't think I am doing that, I speak in Love to you always,. milady, like I do ALL miladies on c.c.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
It's always about the other guy. Never mind they don't feel conviction, look at themselves & work out their own salvation with fear & trembling. They're always worried about the other guy, like it's more important that the crowd see him than them.
The other guy's repentance isn't going to cover you, neither is his wickedness gonna send you to Hell.
Projecting guilt on someone else isn't making you innocent, it's digging the hole you're in deeper.
Stop before you end up in China!
It's always about the other guy. Never mind they don't feel conviction, look at themselves & work out their own salvation with fear & trembling. They're always worried about the other guy, like it's more important that the crowd see him than them.
The other guy's repentance isn't going to cover you, neither is his wickedness gonna send you to Hell.
Projecting guilt on someone else isn't making you innocent, it's digging the hole you're in deeper.
Stop before you end up in China!
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
When people say a Christian can not be possessed, they are half right. We as Christians do have God's protection and blessings when we are doing His will. When we sin and keep on sinning, even in even one area of our life, God won't protect that area of our life. God may even hand us over to satan (1Cor. 5:5) so we can later repent. God has said He will cast out the lukewarm Christian (Rev 3:16) and at that point you have lost his protection.
You claim we can not be in the kingdom of God and the kingdom of satan and it is true we can not serve two masters (Matt. 6:24). We as humans have a big problem called the flesh. Our flesh is at war within us all (Roms.7:23), it desires sin. It led Paul to say "I am the chiefest of sinners.". Everyone here claims to love/serve God and yet at times we chose rebellion and sin. When we chose to sin, who are we serving at that moment? It certainly isn't God.
Demon possession is a sin related condition. If what you say is true, then a demon possessed unbeliever who becomes saved, then the demon(s) taking up residence within that person would have to go. Except we never once see that as a means of getting free from the demonic. The only means of casting demons out is by confronting them.
When people say a Christian can not be possessed, they are half right. We as Christians do have God's protection and blessings when we are doing His will. When we sin and keep on sinning, even in even one area of our life, God won't protect that area of our life. God may even hand us over to satan (1Cor. 5:5) so we can later repent. God has said He will cast out the lukewarm Christian (Rev 3:16) and at that point you have lost his protection.
You claim we can not be in the kingdom of God and the kingdom of satan and it is true we can not serve two masters (Matt. 6:24). We as humans have a big problem called the flesh. Our flesh is at war within us all (Roms.7:23), it desires sin. It led Paul to say "I am the chiefest of sinners.". Everyone here claims to love/serve God and yet at times we chose rebellion and sin. When we chose to sin, who are we serving at that moment? It certainly isn't God.
Demon possession is a sin related condition. If what you say is true, then a demon possessed unbeliever who becomes saved, then the demon(s) taking up residence within that person would have to go. Except we never once see that as a means of getting free from the demonic. The only means of casting demons out is by confronting them.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
That is why God created the ignore button. We all can get upset when others blast away at our pet doctrines. At some point when the anger and hate reaches a certain point, the best option is to disengage that person by clicking the ignore button.
That is why God created the ignore button. We all can get upset when others blast away at our pet doctrines. At some point when the anger and hate reaches a certain point, the best option is to disengage that person by clicking the ignore button.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
My point has been and always been,the very same thing you are accusing someone else you yourself have done and you still refuse to deal with it. You continue on with the "I'm innocent" even when you have been SHOWN you have done the same thing. It's the fact you have the AUDACITY to continue to claim you're innocent. It's you're choice whether you will or will not deal with it. It is NOT me you will have to explain it to. The fact you refuse to deal with it shows me more about your character than anything you will ever say.
My point has been and always been,the very same thing you are accusing someone else you yourself have done and you still refuse to deal with it. You continue on with the "I'm innocent" even when you have been SHOWN you have done the same thing. It's the fact you have the AUDACITY to continue to claim you're innocent. It's you're choice whether you will or will not deal with it. It is NOT me you will have to explain it to. The fact you refuse to deal with it shows me more about your character than anything you will ever say.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
You haven't realized yet if you did what you needed to do, there wouldn't be others to reply to you in the first place. They would have nothing to say.
That means if I'm doing it, I wouldn't have anything to say either. Check-mate.
You haven't realized yet if you did what you needed to do, there wouldn't be others to reply to you in the first place. They would have nothing to say.
That means if I'm doing it, I wouldn't have anything to say either. Check-mate.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Another example from a ministry called Elijah's list
They describe themselves as.
The Elijah List - Our History
Like most in the mold, he shows how to break a supposed Jezebel yoke.
Sandie Freed: Breaking the Jezebel Yoke
Almost any emotional state applies.
The Jezebel Yoke: Breaking Free from Bondage and Deception -- by Sandie Freed
Sells more books when more think they have it.
Another example from a ministry called Elijah's list
They describe themselves as.
The Elijah List - Our History
Like most in the mold, he shows how to break a supposed Jezebel yoke.
Sandie Freed: Breaking the Jezebel Yoke
Almost any emotional state applies.
The Jezebel Yoke: Breaking Free from Bondage and Deception -- by Sandie Freed
Sells more books when more think they have it.
Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
yes that Jez.
she's quite the busy projection device for those who traffic in the souls of men.
it's stunning, though i'm more used to it now...how many people are willing to go very possibly to hell over this idiocy.
whatevah.
yes that Jez.
she's quite the busy projection device for those who traffic in the souls of men.
it's stunning, though i'm more used to it now...how many people are willing to go very possibly to hell over this idiocy.
whatevah.
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
We can cast out demons , we are to do it in Jesus' name, sarasara, you asked about this somewhere and this is but one area of Scripture that speaks this truth.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
Jezebel spirits. Annabelle spirits. Josephine spirits. Deadre spirits. Joseph spirits. Augustine spirits. Jerry spirits.
These are just to 'name' a few
We can cast out demons , we are to do it in Jesus' name, sarasara, you asked about this somewhere and this is but one area of Scripture that speaks this truth.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
Jezebel spirits. Annabelle spirits. Josephine spirits. Deadre spirits. Joseph spirits. Augustine spirits. Jerry spirits.
These are just to 'name' a few
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Now that is something I agree is total nonsense. Pointing out a JS is one thing but why is there a need to write an entire book about it?
Ephesians 6:13-18
"[SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, [SUP]15 [/SUP]and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. [SUP]16 [/SUP]In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people."
Poof, there it is......underlined part, that's how you protect yourself from it.....I just saved you guys 10.99....lol
Now that is something I agree is total nonsense. Pointing out a JS is one thing but why is there a need to write an entire book about it?
Ephesians 6:13-18
"[SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, [SUP]15 [/SUP]and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. [SUP]16 [/SUP]In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people."
Poof, there it is......underlined part, that's how you protect yourself from it.....I just saved you guys 10.99....lol
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Re: Why is the "Jezebel spirit" concept mostly in Charismatic, Pentecostal, WOF circl
Exactly AngelCakes. Doesn't the 'jezebel spirit' have more to do with rebellion against God?
Jezebel (in the old testament) did dominate her husband, but good ole' king Ahab was kind of a slouch. She was deceitful, evil and rebellious, not against her husband but against God. I always understood that as being the 'jezebel spirit', and that it really had nothing to do with her husband.
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I was just going to point that out but sometimes we get way laid by spirits trying to side track the real issue. Jezebel slew all the prophets she could find and did great evil before the Lord. She promoted herself as a prophet which she was not.
Saying the Jezebel spirit was because she domineered over men is minimizing the teaching. Yes you can believe and disbelieve what you like and you can choose to not go into learning the Bible through God led eyes but it is like the denominations that choose to ignore certain parts of the teaching thinking it will go away. I guess that is the reason we have so many people on medications being diagnosed with all types of mental disorders.
I see many people who get prideful about their church drawing bigger crowds (some don't think that they have the only church), some who are musicians who forget they are praising God WITH a congregation and have no thought as to the fact that they have drifted off into self praise. Fallible mankind.
But in all things pray with thanksgiving.
Exactly AngelCakes. Doesn't the 'jezebel spirit' have more to do with rebellion against God?
Jezebel (in the old testament) did dominate her husband, but good ole' king Ahab was kind of a slouch. She was deceitful, evil and rebellious, not against her husband but against God. I always understood that as being the 'jezebel spirit', and that it really had nothing to do with her husband.
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I was just going to point that out but sometimes we get way laid by spirits trying to side track the real issue. Jezebel slew all the prophets she could find and did great evil before the Lord. She promoted herself as a prophet which she was not.
Saying the Jezebel spirit was because she domineered over men is minimizing the teaching. Yes you can believe and disbelieve what you like and you can choose to not go into learning the Bible through God led eyes but it is like the denominations that choose to ignore certain parts of the teaching thinking it will go away. I guess that is the reason we have so many people on medications being diagnosed with all types of mental disorders.
I see many people who get prideful about their church drawing bigger crowds (some don't think that they have the only church), some who are musicians who forget they are praising God WITH a congregation and have no thought as to the fact that they have drifted off into self praise. Fallible mankind.
But in all things pray with thanksgiving.