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hi everyone ,

Hate Islam , love muslims is our latest book at meccatochrist.org , in this book we are going to explain how a true believer in Jesus should make out the differences between Hate Islam and love muslims .

as we are finishing the book , I'd love to hear your ideas about that topic

Love Muslims, Hate Islam – From Mecca to Christ Ministries

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Dude653

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I think it would be ridiculous to assume that all Muslims are bad people. My son is a Marine and he serves alongside Muslims. To my knowledge it has never been a problem
 
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And that is why I wrote the book especially for people like you Dude653 because its so clear you cant differentiate between islam (as religion) and muslims (as normal people ) .

in this book I'm explaining how 90% of the muslims are just normal people led by the 10% radical muslims . THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO LOVE our ENEMIES as the bible says , and HATE paganisim just like you are haring natsies .

I really encourage you to read our book , I'm from the heart and the birthplace of islam Mecca and this book will give you more insight about that and how to love your neighbours , muslims .

Visit our website to learn more From Mecca to Christ Ministries – My site
 

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hi everyone ,

Hate Islam , love muslims is our latest book at meccatochrist.org , in this book we are going to explain how a true believer in Jesus should make out the differences between Hate Islam and love muslims .

as we are finishing the book , I'd love to hear your ideas about that topic

Love Muslims, Hate Islam – From Mecca to Christ Ministries

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Well one thing is sure.. You have a good book title.. Yes we should love muslims and hate islam.. Amen to that..
 

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And that is why I wrote the book especially for people like you Dude653 because its so clear you cant differentiate between islam (as religion) and muslims (as normal people ) .

in this book I'm explaining how 90% of the muslims are just normal people led by the 10% radical muslims .
NO... Wrong... They are NOT radical muslims.. They are Devout, True, Quran and accepted Hadith following muslims.. Once you call them radical you lead people to assume they are not following the quran correctly..
 
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So there are a lot of radical Christians then, because I see the same thing in Christianity. However in Christianity it is not so much violence (apart from wars), but being a snake, hiding your motives and intentions, while making out you are the best Christian, and you say what you do, and you have your beliefs, in God's name.

I'm not sure about hypocrisy in Muslim religion, but then I haven't been around them much. But of all the Muslims I have met, they seem much more decent, respectful, honest, than the Christians I have met.

I think with Muslim religion, it is often something you are brought up into. So you might be a drug smoking gangster, but you identify as Muslim, because that is your family. In the Western world we are many more categories, 'especially' of Christianity. I guess this is why Muslim has 2 sects, Christianity has 1000s. 1000s sounds like a lot of confused people with different beliefs and gospels, all believing that the others are wrong (that yours is righteous). This is the hypocrisy I see. Love your neighbour its as simple as that. Jesus' gospel. Muslims have a lot more love for each other, which is mainly because they haven't got these divisions, it's like 2 big families. They always refer to you as a brother.

I don't see that in Christianity, where many are on their high horse of truth out to debunk your beliefs. Snakes. And there are many on this site. The site is Christian based, but apparently this is ok behaviour. If this was a Muslim site, I'm sure that kind of thing would be extremely frowned upon and not tolerated, but I'm speaking hypothetically, based on the Muslims I meet. Muslims ARE just people like any of us. I don't know enough about Islam to judge it or hate it. Yes you may say look at the proof. The proof is in studying something, it is not in peoples actions, and they happen to be this religion or that colour or with that sexual orientation. Most people hate, based on what they are told, what they have heard, and this is pure ignorance. Ignorance and hypocrisy.

NO... Wrong... They are NOT radical muslims.. They are Devout, True, Quran and accepted Hadith following muslims.. Once you call them radical you lead people to assume they are not following the quran correctly..
 
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you are truly right brother , their Devotion to quran is the reason why they are killing us , read surah 9:111 to understand more

I appreciate your opinions brother

NO... Wrong... They are NOT radical muslims.. They are Devout, True, Quran and accepted Hadith following muslims.. Once you call them radical you lead people to assume they are not following the quran correctly..
 
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And that is why I wrote the book especially for people like you Dude653 because its so clear you cant differentiate between islam (as religion) and muslims (as normal people ) .

in this book I'm explaining how 90% of the muslims are just normal people led by the 10% radical muslims . THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO LOVE our ENEMIES as the bible says , and HATE paganisim just like you are haring natsies .

I really encourage you to read our book , I'm from the heart and the birthplace of islam Mecca and this book will give you more insight about that and how to love your neighbours , muslims .

Visit our website to learn more From Mecca to Christ Ministries – My site
NO... Wrong... They are NOT radical muslims.. They are Devout, True, Quran and accepted Hadith following muslims.. Once you call them radical you lead people to assume they are not following the quran correctly..
These two statements lead me to believe that I really SHOULD be wary of ALL Muslims. For, if they really ARE following the words of the Koran... (from the small sections I have read).... then they truly are intent upon forcefully subjugating me to their religion, if not outright killing me.

It sounds like you are trying to say we need not fear the ones who honestly don't really care too much about their religion...... EXCEPT that this large group seems to just go along with whatever heinous things those few truly following the religion decide to do "in the name of Allah." And the things they continue to do (murders) honestly does not seem to be seriously objected to by the majority who actually just sort of ignore their own religion.
 
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In other words, the majority of Muslims won't kill us, but they seem to have no problem with the small portion of their brothers who will willingly chop our heads off.
 
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I don't think that's true at all. How many Muslims have you directly spoke to who have said they have no problem with it? Many Muslims will say that such things are against Allah. People will use things subjectively for their own purpose.

The challenge with the Muslim religion is that Sharia Law is quite brutal and strict, and I guess culturally those who want to take things out of context use that as their justification for being brutal themselves (but not in the same way, in a criminal and non-Sharia way).

This is what happens when Religion is government.

If Christianity was government like in the dark ages, people would be burnt at the stake, you would have Christian mobs going around killing, hanging, drawing and quartering, racking, cutting off the sinning part of a person, etc. So how come that has nothing to do with Religion? Christianity is violent when it too is a Theocracy. In fact the Christian's and their Crusades were extremely prolific and violent.

The issue is with Theocracy rather than Democracy. As for the most aggressive country in the world, it's America. The War on Terror, has it brought peace? No, but it brings lots of gun sales. To think that it has nothing to do with business is ignorant. America is not a Theocracy, so such things as corruption, over making money, mean nothing.

It seems all the terror started when we had this war on terror. What about the war on drugs, did that work? No. And now that has changed to more of an acceptance. I'm still weighing up whether that is good or bad.

What if, just what if, you are all being duped, so that you support a war on terror (and what exactly is 'terror' now associated with?) Financial interest when in the hands of a country will do ANYTHING to make sure it can keep going. Manipulation of the public has been studied since before WW2. We accuse ISIS of propaganda, as if propaganda is something countries never use on a daily basis. Out of all the countries in the world, America is at the forefront of propaganda psychology, and especially, making sure you don't see it as propaganda, but 'public relations'. This was studied in treating people as groups or herds, yeh, just like animals!

All you have to do to control people, is make them HATE something. And people will even use God to promote the importance of hate. Now how is that so different, from Terrorists?? Exactly the same tactics. Hate and fear are very closely associated, they are on the same branch. They are not on God's branch, or Jesus' vine. However the 'hate' referred to in the Bible, is a very different hate to what we consider as hate. However, people of course, use it how they want to hear it. And such things are used in propaganda.




In other words, the majority of Muslims won't kill us, but they seem to have no problem with the small portion of their brothers who will willingly chop our heads off.
 
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I don't think that's true at all. How many Muslims have you directly spoke to who have said they have no problem with it? Many Muslims will say that such things are against Allah. People will use things subjectively for their own purpose.

The challenge with the Muslim religion is that Sharia Law is quite brutal and strict, and I guess culturally those who want to take things out of context use that as their justification for being brutal themselves (but not in the same way, in a criminal and non-Sharia way).

This is what happens when Religion is government.

If Christianity was government like in the dark ages, people would be burnt at the stake, you would have Christian mobs going around killing, hanging, drawing and quartering, racking, cutting off the sinning part of a person, etc. So how come that has nothing to do with Religion? Christianity is violent when it too is a Theocracy. In fact the Christian's and their Crusades were extremely prolific and violent.

The issue is with Theocracy rather than Democracy. As for the most aggressive country in the world, it's America. The War on Terror, has it brought peace? No, but it brings lots of gun sales. To think that it has nothing to do with business is ignorant. America is not a Theocracy, so such things as corruption, over making money, mean nothing.

It seems all the terror started when we had this war on terror. What about the war on drugs, did that work? No. And now that has changed to more of an acceptance. I'm still weighing up whether that is good or bad.

What if, just what if, you are all being duped, so that you support a war on terror (and what exactly is 'terror' now associated with?) Financial interest when in the hands of a country will do ANYTHING to make sure it can keep going. Manipulation of the public has been studied since before WW2. We accuse ISIS of propaganda, as if propaganda is something countries never use on a daily basis. Out of all the countries in the world, America is at the forefront of propaganda psychology, and especially, making sure you don't see it as propaganda, but 'public relations'. This was studied in treating people as groups or herds, yeh, just like animals!

All you have to do to control people, is make them HATE something. And people will even use God to promote the importance of hate. Now how is that so different, from Terrorists?? Exactly the same tactics. Hate and fear are very closely associated, they are on the same branch. They are not on God's branch, or Jesus' vine. However the 'hate' referred to in the Bible, is a very different hate to what we consider as hate. However, people of course, use it how they want to hear it. And such things are used in propaganda.
A lot of verbiage to, basically, say nothing of any substance. I said I will remain wary of ALL Muslims because I do not see, or hear, or read a word anywhere on news outlets about any of them condemning the actions of these "extremists." I will, and do, openly condemn The Westboro Baptists.... and those people really aren't violent at all, they just yell and demean others.
 

Magenta

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Some people often confuse others telling the truth about Islam with hatred and racism. People are blind, and some willfully so. Islamic texts explicitly instruct violence from followers, quite unlike Christ's teachings, regardless of the actions of Christians.

According to
An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America, the "Understanding of the Role of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America", a goal of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America is identified as the following:

The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions.
 

Tommy379

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Some people often confuse others telling the truth about Islam with hatred and racism. People are blind, and some willfully so. Islamic texts explicitly instruct violence from followers, quite unlike Christ's teachings, regardless of the actions of Christians.

According to
An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America, the "Understanding of the Role of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America", a goal of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America is identified as the following:

The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions.
When did islam become a race?
 

Tommy379

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The koran has 109 verses, telling the believers to kill the unbelievers.
 

Tommy379

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It's not :) But you might get called a racist and charged with
a hate crime for telling the truth about Mohammed and Islam :(
They can call me anything they want, except late for dinner.
 

Tommy379

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It's not :) But you might get called a racist and charged with
a hate crime for telling the truth about Mohammed and Islam :(
I just realized, you live in the United Soviet Socialists Providences of Canada.
 

maxwel

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This is odd if someone calls them self a Muslim don't they believe in Islam?

love the person not the religion, someone who is called a Muslim is believing in Islam.