What can we do to heal our relationship with Muslims?

[parablepete]

I may sound weak like Obama. But, I got to try. Do Muslims know we love them and care for them. Sure, I don't want to die in a bomb blast. Why do they HATE us so? I believe its because of the Koran teaches them to kill the un-believers. Aren't you glad the bible don't teach us to kill all non-believers?

I am thinking as I am writting. I believe the USA Muslims ar as worried as we are of the HARD CORE MUSLIMS that is why they won't speak out or they AGREE with them.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Kefa54]

I may sound weak like Obama. But, I got to try. Do Muslims know we love them and care for them. Sure, I don't want to die in a bomb blast. Why do they HATE us so? I believe its because of the Koran teaches them to kill the un-believers. Aren't you glad the bible don't teach us to kill all non-believers?

I am thinking as I am writting. I believe the USA Muslims ar as worried as we are of the HARD CORE MUSLIMS that is why they won't speak out or they AGREE with them.

What are your thoughts?

The best and most powerful thing we can do is Pray for them. Bind the deceiver in Jesus name so that the scales will fall from their eyes and that they will hear the Holy Spirit when he convicts them.

Kefa

 

[Jackson123]

The best and most powerful thing we can do is Pray for them. Bind the deceiver in Jesus name so that the scales will fall from their eyes and that they will hear the Holy Spirit when he convicts them.

Kefa

yup, pray and love them. Hope the Lord open they eyes how Devil hate them and use them to destroy not only others but them self. They not only hate us, They not aware that they hate them self as well.

 

[iH8cake]

The muslim extremists you hear about have about as much to do with the Islamic religion as the KKK has to do with Christianity.

Although there are differences, Allah and God are the same. Muslims believe that in all the prophets as Christians do. Muslims also believe in Jesus, yes they do, but they don't believe he was the son of God as Christians do.

Now there are theological differences, but Islam and Christianity are cousins by blood.

 

[John_agape]

What we normally read about in the Western media called "Muslim" are usually the crazies.

How often do we hear about Sufi Muslims and Sufi groups being attacked being blown up?

When they blow up mosques, that is Muslims killed and mutilated, as well as hundreds of Korans burning in the flames.

These weirdos are actually a grater threat to Muslims than they are to us Christians in the West. The Christians I think of daily in this context are those living in the Middle East.

There were Christian communities, in Iraq and Syria, that have survived for ages tracing their origins back to the first Century, that have been wiped out in the last 20 or so years.

It's those Taliban, Salaafi and Wahhabi extremists that are the problem. Normal Muslims want to live in peace. I have found that normal Muslims respect our Christian faith, and I have had many stimulating discussions with normal Muslims, both Sunni and Shia.

About Jesus, they believe Mary was a virgin and conceived Jesus through the Holy Spirit. So far so good. The problem comes with their confusion as to the identity of the Holy Spirit. Some say it is the Angel Gabriel. That makes Jesus the son of the Angel Gabriel.

I think it's too late for me to get deeper into this

 

[John_agape]

Oh yes, The Al-Qaeda group Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq have been expelled from the Al-Qaeda family as they are too extremist.

I think they can safely be placed outside the true Islamic community.

 

[Hanady]

We can only pray for them, they hate us because the Koran teaches them to kill the un-believers as you said, they don't care if our religion is based on love and forgiveness because in the mosque they tell them to hate us because we are sinners and that we are not good so they can't trust us and yes i am so glad the bible don't teach us to kill all non-believers but instead Jesus told us to love each other: "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you". I am always praying for them, they need Jesus.

 

[TrueDanish]

i am a muslim and quran does not teach to kill all non believers.
Thats not true..

 

[Mikaeli]

and remeber, in the Bible God asks (demands) for a few genocides...

 

[1899]

Tell muslims in a way that shows u care about them tell them to read in the Quran 5:46/5:47/5:4

 

[Islandbiuti]

I was schooled in a Muslim school, and I learnt that most of our religious beliefs were similar, however, terrorism might have been caused by Mohammed's belief that doing things that benefits islam is always accepted by allah and that everyone that dies in his name will surely go to heaven, this is misinterpreted and misunderstood by extremist who uses these teaching for their own interests and benefits.

 

[Elin]

i am a muslim

You are a troll.

 

[PeteWaldo]

The muslim extremists you hear about have about as much to do with the Islamic religion as the KKK has to do with Christianity.

That is simply not true. The Gospel calls for Yeshua's people to love our neighbors as ourselves and even love our enemies.
The Quran calls Muhammad's true followers to do just as Muhammad did and commanded his followers to do:

Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an:
JIHAD AND ISLAMIC TERRORISM

Fighting and slaying is binding on Muhammad's orthodox followers, in the Quran.
Muslims that proclaim it to be a religion of peace are either wishful heterodox Muslim "hypocrites" as their orthodox brethren refer to them, or they are lying in the way of Allah, or have been duped into believing a lie. There is nothing about its 1400 year history, or the way we find Muhammad's orthodox followers revealed around the world today, that suggests other than they are doing as they are commanded to do.

Quran Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Although there are differences, Allah and God are the same.

Certainly not as revealed through the Quran and the Gospel. Muhammad's "Allah", is to the great God of our scriptures YHWH, as the negative is to a photograph. Compelling His followers to DISbelieve the whole subject of the Gospel:

Quran Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD

Muslims believe that in all the prophets as Christians do.

No they do not. Do they believe some of them existed? Sure. But they believe in prophets solely as Muhammad falsely described them, not as revealed in the 1600 year record of YHWH to mankind.

Muslims also believe in Jesus, yes they do, .........

No they do not believe in Jesus. Satan has only deceived them into believing, that they believe in Jesus. To believe in Jesus one has to first believe in the whole reason the Messiah was made manifest to the world.

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
THE LAMB SLAIN

To believe in Jesus one has to first believe in His crucifixion, death and resurrection through which all are saved who have faith in His blood. The exact opposite of what Muhammad's counter-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion requires his followers to DISbelieve, deny and reject.

.....but they don't believe he was the son of God as Christians do.

So what does that make Muhammad as well as each and every Muslim?

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
IS ISLAM ANTICHRIST?

Now there are theological differences, but Islam and Christianity are cousins by blood.

Absolutely not by "blood". Indeed nothing could be farther from the truth since they are required to reject Jesus' shed blood. Far from being "cousins" Islam and Christianity are as opposite to each other as Muhammad was from Jesus Christ. That's why they are murdering Christians all around the world today, as they have for 1400 years. They do so because they are filled with the spirit of antichrist.
MUSLIM PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS

Parroting Islam's taqiyyah and dissimulation will only help comfort those so sorely deluded, in their continuing to follow Muhammad down the path directly away from Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, while contributing to ultimately consigning our heirs to being compelled to DISbelieve the crucifixion of Christ, reject His shed blood, and deny the Son of God as articles of faith in THE false prophet Muhammad while prostrating themselves toward a black stone idol in Mecca five times a day while praying in the "vain repetitions of the heathen" as the scriptures describe it.
JESUS OR MUHAMMAD

 

[mikem]

1st point to the original poster:
Many christians have believed that the bible tells us to kill non believers, or heretics, or blasphemers, etc. Which is why, in history, there have been just as many, if not more, atrocities committed by Christian radicals groups as/than Muslim groups.
I believe a huge step toward healing relations between christians and MANY others is to take responsibility for the history of our own beliefs and what has happened in their name, and try to see things from that perspective.
2nd point:
I believe another huge way to heal ANYTHING, is to do what the scripture tells us to. Love. And act out that love AS the scripture tells us to. Not selfish love. Not grudging acceptance. Not to receive for ourselves. Not to avoid "getting bombed."
We should love because it is right to love.
1st Corinthians 13
I believe we should look to ourselves and hold each other, as brothers and sisters in Christ, accountable, before disparaging others for their actions, despicable as many of them may be.

 

[Musa]

Well, if you wanna know how. You see, Quran give you answer of all questions, even this one. And it is in Surah Imran 3:64
Qul ya ahla alkitabi taAAalaw ila kalimatin sawa-in baynana wabaynakum
O, People of the Scripture, come into common term between us and you.

 

[Bowman]

Well, if you wanna know how. You see, Quran give you answer of all questions, even this one. And it is in Surah Imran 3:64
Qul ya ahla alkitabi taAAalaw ila kalimatin sawa-in baynana wabaynakum
O, People of the Scripture, come into common term between us and you.

Not even close...

You failed to quote the entire ayah...and failed to show context of 'alhaqqu' (i.e. Jesus) and the Injeel (i.e. New Testament) as the reference standards of Truth.

 

[Musa]

Not even close...

You failed to quote the entire ayah...and failed to show context of 'alhaqqu' (i.e. Jesus) and the Injeel (i.e. New Testament) as the reference standards of Truth.

Well, I do not need the whole verse to answer this question. And note one fact, what you said is kind of right,, except, who told you the New Testament you've got us call the injil?

 

[Bowman]

Well, I do not need the whole verse to answer this question. And note one fact, what you said is kind of right,, except, who told you the New Testament you've got us call the injil?

There is one slight problem here.

The fact that the word “Gospel” resides within the pages of the Koran, should be cause of great concern for followers of Islam.

الإنجيل= “al” + “injeeli” = “al-injeeli” = ‘The Gospel’

“Al-injeeli” is an Arabicized word from the Greek ευαγγελιον“euaggelion”.

The Greek word “euaggelion” means ‘Salvation through Jesus Christ’.

Hence, the very fact that the authors of the Koran had to borrow a word from outside Arabic, in order to relate to the Jesus Christ that they were writing about, totally decimates Islamic theology.

The borrowed word “al-injeeli” must impart the original meaning, otherwise there would be no need to borrow it in the first place….and this meaning is ‘Salvation through Jesus Christ’.

Time to wake up…Muslims…!

 

[Human]

I may sound weak like Obama. But, I got to try. Do Muslims know we love them and care for them. Sure, I don't want to die in a bomb blast. Why do they HATE us so?

I don't think they all do. In fact, I think a small number do.

I believe its because of the Koran teaches them to kill the un-believers. Aren't you glad the bible don't teach us to kill all non-believers?

Actually it does, in Leviticus it commands you to take anyone caught worshiping other Gods to the edge of the city and stone them to death. But thankfully, you ignore that part.

I am thinking as I am writting. I believe the USA Muslims ar as worried as we are of the HARD CORE MUSLIMS that is why they won't speak out or they AGREE with them.

Loads of Muslims speak out against Islamic terrorism. You just don't see much of it reported from Murdoch.

What are your thoughts?

Stereotyping is unfair.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Please stop making this false assertion Human. He's not a Jew under the Mosaic old covenant law. He's a Christian under the New Covenant. They are two different things.

When you deliberately misrepresent Christianity in an attempt to paint Christians as morally blighted people, it clearly reveals that you lack integrity as a human being.

Though you are an atheist which is a worldview that does not recognize a transcendent moral law giver (e.g. God, for example) nor any morality that is ultimately meaningful; the forum rules here do dictate that participants not engage in doctrinally misrepresenting Christianity (especially to offend).

Actually it does, in Leviticus it commands you to take anyone caught worshiping other Gods to the edge of the city and stone them to death. But thankfully, you ignore that part... Stereotyping is unfair.