1000 year reign

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NewJerusalem

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I thought it necessary to add a comment concerning 3 passages, all conected and related one to the other.

Matthew 24:3.." Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" "

Luke 21:7.." So they asked Him, saying, "Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?"

Mark 13:4.." "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign when all these things will be fulfilled?""

ALL of these are questions asked of Jesus after HE had just stated, ""Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone shall be left upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

referring to the Temple and all the ornate buildings. ANd even more specifically the city as a whole.

The problem I have seen is contemporaries splitting up MT 24:3 into three separate questions for separate fulfillment's over some 2,000 years or so. They completely either ignore or neglect bringing into the context Luke or Mark, which so same situation as one question for the one time frame Jesus had just referred to. MT24:3 is three portions questioning one same said event.

Again, Search to see if such things are so.
 
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greatkraw

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you said Originally Posted by Graybeard
what are you saying??..that we are presently living in the thousand year reign of Christ? the tribulation of Revelation is in the past?
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yes and yes. and if we are living in The Thousand Years, then it may also appear that we are now upon the Gog/Magog days of Revelation 20 and satan has been released for a final great deception, surrounding true believers on all sides. Yet we know as Scripture states: "...And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them."

We are on the verge of eternity. A moving from time into eternity. Jesus shall return to those who are eagerly awaiting the fullness of His Kingdom.

Prophecies of Daniel, Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 and majority of Revelation took place in the final destruction of Jerusalem/Temple, final culmination of the Old Covenant system and a puting away of that harlot who rejected Jesus Christ, her Messiah.

Daniel 2:44.." And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever."

in that day of the Roman empire, Christ came and inaugurated His Kingdom which shall never pass away. compare also with Isaiah 9:6-7 " For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end, Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom, To order it and establish it with judgment and justice From that time forward, even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this"


Also note that the babylon in Rev 17-18 speaks of the old, physical Jerusalem and her system of worship and she gave her authority to Rome, Ceaser and controlling beast. They even procalimed they had no God but Ceaser.


Search to see if such things are so.
Wow! Satan has been bound for a thousand years and he didnt even know!:)
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I prefer you to look at past posts of mine in this thread, tribulation thread and Daniel timelline thread to gain understanding as to what I have posted. However... Revelation 20 states THE Thousand Years and A Thousand Years.. it is interesting that the translations posted it this way.. almost appears to be 50/50 in the reading, "a" and The".... however. all should be translated in the definite article "THE" in the Greek and none should be "a" and as we know absolutely none are translated as "one".

So the text should read The Thousand Years. Now let us think of it this way for a moment... compare to a title..... The Golden Years.... The Church Age.... The Age of Grace.....

Now also Thousand in the Greek means... (of uncertain affinity, and completeness)

compare with....

Psalm 50:10.., "For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills."

Does God own cattle on a literal "One" thousand hills? or on "ALL".. "completely"

The Thousand years here is not a literal, "ONE" thousand .... but "THE Thousand Years."

This is beyond a literal One thousand years, as Scripture never even mentions "ONE".

search to see if such things are so.
Looking at the Greek word for thousand (chiloi) in the NT, only once do I see it used metaphorically (II Peter 3:8). A big problem is that the plural "thousands" is found in a completely different form (chiliades), not part of the paradigm of the single "thousand". So, I don't think that this interpretation is exegetically correct.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Let me give an example of what I am saying. we have the word person and the word people. If I say that this person came to see me, I don't have to say that it was one person. If I try to say that the lack of a indefinite article means person may be plural, you would tell me to use the plural people. If you have a language, as most languages, that doesn't have an indefinite article (as Greek doesn't) then the singular is sufficient to say it is one.
 
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NewJerusalem

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no problem y'all. just stick to your literal 1,000 years. dont search any more. Ya probably got it all down pat. I dont.

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charisenexcelcis

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no problem y'all. just stick to your literal 1,000 years. dont search any more. Ya probably got it all down pat. I dont.

:eek:
I think that you can conclude that the thousand years are not literal. I don't think that you can use the linguistic arguments that you made.
 
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NewJerusalem

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I think that you can conclude that the thousand years are not literal. I don't think that you can use the linguistic arguments that you made.
I appreciate you noticing that The Thousand Years are not a literal 1,000 years.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I appreciate you noticing that The Thousand Years are not a literal 1,000 years.
lol. I am not an amillenialist, I just don't believe that you are an idiot nor do I believe that you speak with wrong intent.
 
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