What Becomes of Believers Who Are Just Sprinkled as Babies?

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So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
 
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They got wet is all...as baptism is immersion and a child is safe under the blood and needs no such heretical practice applied unto them and they are not able to make a conscience decision<---Acts and Phillip and the Eunuch...what hinders me to be immersed..If thou believeth with all thine heart
 
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Baptized as baby come on what can come of that other than a lie. Oh I baptized you when you were a baby so that liquor store you knocked off is forgiven and them ladies that have your five sons who you don't support well it's all good.

It's all good.
 
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If they are true followers of Christ, then they will have to make their own profession of faith when they get older.
Baptism as a baby means nothing. It is not their profession, and future sins are not covered.
If they grow up to then deny the Lord or Holy Spirit's guidance then that baptism was for nothing.

Acts 10:47-48[SUP]47 [/SUP]Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
 
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I have to agree with those who have so far posted their comments to this question. The Bible gives clear evidence of what water baptism is, and who is being baptized. The Scriptures are silent regarding anyone of any age being sprinkled with water as a form of baptism. This should be enough evidence to answer your question. Will they burn in the lake of fire? From what I can glean from the Word, if they knew what true baptism was, and had the opportunity yet failed to do so, then they have rejected a commandment of the LORD. However, even with that being said, I will let the Judge make the final decision.

God Bless
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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Hello Atwood
I think if they were in CHRIST that they were saved,and didn't need to be sprinkled with water,but getting baptized in water is a good witness to the world and obedience to GOD.
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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boy, we sure get some sticky problems popping up when we think of "baptism" carnally, don't we?

The LORD does not look at the things people look at.
People look at the outward appearance,
but the LORD looks at the heart
(1 Samuel 16:7)
 
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Kerry said:
Baptized as baby come on what can come of that other than a lie. Oh I baptized you when you were a baby so that liquor store you knocked off is forgiven and them ladies that have your five sons who you don't support well it's all good.
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An in depth and thoughtful response, as usual Kerry. :)
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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A group of us were sitting under my parents' tree on the front lawn when I was about ten years old, and somehow we got onto the topic of baptism. When I announced that I had never been baptized my one friend looked at me in total shock. "How can you even be alive?" he blurted out. I am not sure whether he was Catholic or of some Protestant faith, but I was a bit stunned by his response. Later I learned that in the rural areas of Britain folk lore held that babies got on better after being baptized. I think people tend to see what they expect to see.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
If they are true followers of Christ, then they will have to make their own profession of faith when they get older.
Baptism as a baby means nothing. I
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You are saying then that an unbaptized person can be a true follower of Christ?
So fi their sprinkling as babies means nothing, then the have never been baptized.
So what happens to such who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
 
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Hello Atwood
I think if they were in CHRIST that they were saved,and didn't need to be sprinkled with water,but getting baptized in water is a good witness to the world and obedience to GOD.
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It is amazing how difficult it is to get a straight answer to this question from any who insist that you go to Hell if you are a believer, but don't get water-baptized, persons who deny that baby-sprinkling is baptism.

Seed, are you say, "if they were in CHRIST." Are you saying that new born babies are in Christ before they are sprinkled? Thus somehow they have believed already?
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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Well, to answer, haven't you heard the new wave scriptures by dcontroversal, Kerry, and kennethcadwell?
Matt 19:13 Then were there brought unto him ONLY GROWNUPS, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. 14But Jesus said, Suffer GROWNUPS ONLY, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. 15And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.

But for me and mine, we will stick to truth:

Suffer.Genesis 47:10-14 And Jacob blessed Pharaoh, and went out from before Pharaoh…Genesis 21:4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God …Deuteronomy 29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and your stranger that is in your camp, …Deuteronomy 31:12 Gather the people together, men and women, and children, and your …2 Chronicles 20:13 And all Judah stood before the LORD, with their little ones, their …Jeremiah 32:39 And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me …Acts 2:39 For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all that …1 Corinthians 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving …for.Matthew 18:3,4 And said, Truly I say to you, Except you be converted, and become …1 Corinthians 14:20 Brothers, be not children in understanding: however, in malice be …1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that you may …

I know I'm suppose to be patient with ignorant people Lord and please forgive their ignorance.
 
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Have posters been hiding behind the non-translation word "baptize" in disgusting the subject?
What about those who were sprinkled? Are they going to be scorched in Gehenna?

Cycel said:
A group of us were sitting under my parents' tree on the front lawn when I was about ten years old, and somehow we got onto the topic of baptism. When I announced that I had never been baptized my one friend looked at me in total shock. "How can you even be alive?" he blurted out. I am not sure whether he was Catholic or of some Protestant faith, but I was a bit stunned by his response. Later I learned that in the rural areas of Britain folk lore held that babies got on better after being baptized. I think people tend to see what they expect to see.
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So Cycel, what is your answer to the OP?

what happens to all the
, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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Well seeing how baptism is an outward expression of faith in Jesus and a baby cannot profess Jesus as Lord and savior a sprinkling of a baby isn't a true baptism. The Holy Spirit dwells inside a repentant Christian as soon as a person confesses their sins to God and accepts Jesus as their Lord and savior. Baptism doesn't add to our faith or salvation and not being baptized does not take away our faith or salvation. So therefore a non baptized Christian is still a Christian and still saved by the finished Work if Christ. For those who say we must be baptized to be saved...show me where it says we lose our salvation if we don't get baptized.

To tell someone they won't go to heaven unless they get baptized is a false teaching.
 
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A baby that is baptized as an infant has a lot better chance at life than one who is not dedicated in the church. The parents speak for him, he will be told about the Lord as he matures. When two or three people are gathered in the Lord's name the Lord hears them, this is with the entire congregation gathering to dedicate the child to the Lord.

No baby baptism is considered final, the child must speak for himself to be truly baptized. This is understood by all and the child will have this explained to him for the child is then blessed with a family and a congregation praying for him and teaching him.
 
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RedTent said:
A baby that is baptized as an infant has a lot better chance at life than one who is not dedicated in the church.
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So RedTent, what is your answer to the OP?

What happens to all the
, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
 
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RedTent said:
A baby that is baptized as an infant has a lot better chance at life than one who is not dedicated in the church. The parents speak for him, he will be told about the Lord as he matures. When two or three people are gathered in the Lord's name the Lord hears them, this is with the entire congregation gathering to dedicate the child to the Lord.

No baby baptism is considered final, the child must speak for himself to be truly baptized. This is understood by all and the child will have this explained to him for the child is then blessed with a family and a congregation praying for him and teaching him.
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Some denominations call it baptism and actually see it as a baptism. I feel like you do RT and so does the church denomination I attend..it's a dedication of the child by the parents to raise the child according to Biblical teaching. A dedication to raise the child in a God fearing family.
 
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Atwood said:
So RedTent, what is your answer to the OP?

What happens to all the
, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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Atwood can I ask what is your own answer to your own OP?
 
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Atwood said:
So what happens to all the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Episcopalians [& other denominationals] who happen to trust Christ as Savior, but were sprinkled as babies and die without being actually being water-baptized (as defined by dipping, dunking, immersing)?

Are they roasted in the Lake of Fire with weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth?
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Can't say either way, to say would make me judge. Jesus Christ the Son of God is the judge.
 
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