Cursed children

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In Zechariah 5:1-4 we read “Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.[SUP]2 [/SUP]And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
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[/SUP]I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.”


The thief comes forth to steal Gods words, just as those who swear falsely by the name of the Lord have not been sent by, nor anointed by the Lord. Jesus said in
John 10:10 “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.”

These who come in the name of Truth, but really come in their own name, are of the Destroyer who comes forth to steal, kill, and destroy in the name of the Lord. Their deadly poison is the words they speak, for the poison of asps is in their tongues.

And like
fiery serpents their tongues do kindle a fire.
James 3:6 “And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

The Lord by the angel told Zechariah of their resemblance through all the earth in Zechariah 5:6. And so this curse applied to all the inhabitants of the earth, even the whole earth as the Lord said in Zechariah 5:3 above.


And notice how the Lord describes “their resemblance” throughout all the earth in Zechariah 5:7-11 “
And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a
woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.[SUP]8 [/SUP]And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

This is “Mystery Babylon” and the
woman is spiritual wickedness who is at work in all the earth, this is also “their resemblance” or those who swear falsely by the Lords name.


There are 3 major religions who swear by the name of the Single God of Abraham, (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) and even many other off shoots come from these. But those who proclaim to come in the Lords name (for His name is called the Word of God) and are not chosen of the Lord Himself, even anointed by the Lord’s Holy Spirit; even these are under the curse.


2 Peter 2:14 “Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:”
 
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The Cross!
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The cursed children in 2 Peter are clearly those who have turned from the "way of righteousness" by faith and are going about to establish their own by the law of Moses...all those under the law are under the curse of the law! The strength of sin is the law...they are like dogs that return to its vomit...or a pig who loves to roll around in its "sin"
 
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2 Peter 2:1-15King James Version (KJV)2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
[SUP]8 [/SUP](For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
 
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2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

This is the righteousness of faith!

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God


The warning of 2nd Peter is to legalist!


Being under the law is being in the flesh!


Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
 
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Anyone who teaches the law of Moses is a false teacher! plain and simple!
 
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Except a man is born again he is still in the flesh, and also carnally minded.
 
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Another thread about gloom and doom rather than God's loving, saving grace.
 

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Another thread about gloom and doom rather than God's loving, saving grace.

..........and, you are surprised because?.................... :)
 

p_rehbein

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Not surprised, my friend, just disheartened.
It comes with public forums.........even Christian forums...........and it is why my only response was to your comment.......
 
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Anyone who teaches the law of Moses is a false teacher! plain and simple!
Well, there goes half the New Testament then or all the writings of Paul:

Ephesians chapter 6


[1] Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
[2] Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise):
[3] That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.


Why did Paul cite this OLD TESTAMENT "COMMANDMENT" (Exodus 20:12, Deuteronomy 5:16) TO NEW TESTAMENT SAINTS?

I could just as easily show you where other NEW TESTAMENT APOSTLES did the same, so should we just throw out our Bibles?

Just passin' thru...

:)
 
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It comes with public forums.........even Christian forums...........and it is why my only response was to your comment.......
Thank you for understanding. Such threads like this that are created by Christians all too often, causes me to pause and wonder just what is being taught, shared and focused on in some congregations.
 
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I guess repentance from sins is not a popular message, but it is necessary.

James 4:4[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
 
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I guess repentance from sins is not a popular message, but it is necessary.

James 4:4[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."
With a gentle heart and loving respect I must say that medicine is only effective when given in the proper dose. The medicine of perpetual fear around here drowns out God's loving grace, rather than the other way around.
 
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With a gentle heart and loving respect I must say that medicine is only effective when given in the proper dose. The medicine of perpetual fear around here drowns out God's loving grace, rather than the other way around.
Godly fear is good if it leads one to repentance, and when one is made perfect in love then there remains no fear.:)
 
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Godly fear is good if it leads one to repentance, and when one is made perfect in love then there remains no fear.:)
You're right my brother, and there is indeed a time and necessity for such teachings, but I stand by my words. Too much fear drives people away from the faith, and thus, away from eternal life. Most people who have walked away from the faith have not done so because they don't believe in God or the message of love, forgiveness and grace, they've walked away because fear, guilt, punishment and damnation are taught ad nauseam.