1260 days

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I think this is pretty much it. If they simply shut the sky and leave it there, nobody will attribute that to them... or even listen to them, as everybody will be running around dying of hunger from the lack of food crops. There's no message there, just chaos.

If they turn it off and on at will, that'll be pretty unambiguous. It continues:

Sounds like they're doing a combination of things over time, as often as they want. They don't just give everybody AIDS and call it a (1260) day(s).
Hi contmeplative,
Thank you for this. After readiing wwjd- s I re-read scripture and didn't see the ambiguity then when you took up his post, I went back again and now I can see the alternative view. Yes I agree that the second meaning is that during the 1260 days these prophets have the authority to do many things, one of which is to shut the skies, maybe as often as they like and not just for the whole 1260 days. Still the 1260 days is still in play.
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Hi Guys and Gals,
1 Kings 18;1 etc The rain was stopped for more than 3 years.

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Hi resurrection33,
Are you saying that people who are involved in daily activities will not notice all the telecasts and news reports and water restrictions etc food price hikes etc etc and the inflation. Surely someone will talk about it at smoko.
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No, I was cracking a joke.
 
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I agree with mpaper that people will explain away a drought of 3 years, mostly because just having no rain for years at a time isn't anything new.

I think contemplative is right that turning it on and off at will is what will cause people to stop and think.

Also the revelation says that the AC and his false prophet will be able to perform miracles (albeit false miracles). It says they will call fire down from Heaven. So we have two groups of 2 calling fire down from Heaven and (presumably) both preaching in the name of Jesus. (I believe this is why the false prophet is described as having the horns of a lamb i.e. he will try to make himself sound like some kind of holy man, but his teachings will pervert people away from the teachings of Jesus).

Anyone trusting in a miracle as a sign of who to follow will almost certainly be conned into following the wrong guys. The same Jesus who said to believe him for the sake of the miracles he was doing also said that an evil generation seeks a sign.

I agree with journey41 that "Revelation" means to reveal and it always will be an unsolvable mystery until people start trying to understand it using Jesus as the cornerstone. I think that makes the most since. If it is meant to reveal Jesus (i.e. the Revelation of Jesus Christ) then it makes sense to go back to the teachings of Jesus as a comparison.

For example Rev 13 talks about a mark, initiated by the AC, without which no person on earth will be able to buy or sell. If you take the mark you will be cursed by God, but if you don't take the mark then you will be forced to find ways of surviving that does not depend on working for money.

I think, because the idea of not working to get more money sounds so wierd and extreme, most people assume it is talking about something else, but Jesus said something very similar in his sermon on the mount.

He said that we cannot work for God and money at the same time without cheating on one or the other. (matthew 6:24-34)

He said all the world runs after material things, but that we should not be like them.

He said that our job is to seek God's kingdom first and then God would take care of all the material things he knows we need.

As we start to compare the lessons in the revelation to the teachings of Jesus it becomes far less confusing or scary (although, like john eating the little book, it can be fun (sweet honey) to crack the code and put pieces together, but when we start to realize the cost of what following Jesus means in the context of the revelation (i.e. not taking the mark) most of us start to feel a bit bitter in the tummy.

BTW, at this point I'm leaving off a lot of the scripture references but if anyone wants me to quote something specific I can try to do that too. Just let me know.
 
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I think you hit the nail on the head there. Even now most people are so wraped up in their own little world, they see whats happing in there own house let alone the world. People walk by assults and murders every day. Know one seems to see anyone anymore. Even though they see, they are blind; they hear, but they are deaf; they excist but they are nowhere!
 
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AMOS:8 VER:7-14; The Lord has sworn by the excellency of Jacob(Israel)Surely i will never forget any of their works.

Shall not the land tremble for this, and everyone mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; (spiritual conetation, LIES) and it shall be cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt.

And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord God, that i will cause the sun to go down at noon, and i will darken the earth in the clear day:

And i will turn your feasts(Christmas, easter and Thanksgiving) into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and i will bring sackcloth upon all loins, ( how many tens of, or hundreds of thousands of people, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, are sleeping in their shoes?) and baldness upon every head; ( the 40 year spiritual wilderness ROCK & ROLL) and i will make it as a mourning of an only son, (Abraham & Issiac or The Father & The Son) and the end thereof as a bitter day.

Behold the days come, saith the Lord God that i will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, But of hearing the words of the Lord. (translations only)

And they shall wander from sea to sea, ( spiritual conetation people to people) and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

In that day shall the fair virgins and the young men faint for thirst. (the younger being the stronger)

They that swear by the god of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.

Love and Peace to ALL in CHRIST!!!Forever!:)