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I have posted 1647 posts here on cc ... and this is the first time I have chosen to speak out against a preacher. It's not something one should do lightly, after all. But with all the Joseph Prince doctrine being posted on this site I feel obligated to warn others to be very careful if they choose to listen to him.
He was sensitive about his image being plastered all over like on TV but I agree MLJ would delight in having his sermons posted on the internet, hey, wait...they are...
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I had never really heard of Prince before his followers started flooding CC. I do respect some of these people and I do feel they love God and are trying to serve and love him, as well as others.
But that does not stop JP from being a false teacher. He "tickles ears." Instead of walking with Christ, being transformed, which includes confession and repentance for sin on a daily basis, people are making unbiblical declarations about "who they are in Christ" which in some cases amounts to a complete denial of the real Christian walk.
I am not going to read Prince's books or watch videos (although I did watch the one by Psalmist above!) to refute him, false doctrine by false doctrine. I don't have to, because everything his followers say show me that something is desperately wrong with a lot of what he is saying. But, like other false prophets, he has mixed some truth in with his writings and preaching, making it difficult for many to sort through the very condemning things he says.
I know Prince followers love to quote Romans 8:1 about believers not being condemned, because Prince says so. Well, in fact the Bible says that. But if you read on in that chapter, Paul does qualify it with many admonitions that you must "live according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:5) And that means confession, repentance, and acknowledging that 1 John 1:9 was written to believers, as all of John's epistles, gospel and Revelation were written to believers. To say we do not have to confess our sins, because they are already covered, is to be taken in by a false doctrine.
No rationalization can cover that!
I won't even get into the fact, from what I have read here, that JP's doctrine is a mile wide and an inch deep. Shallow, in other words. He pays lip service to a few things, but people are following him to get rich, be healthy and get healing for a lot of emotional issues, I think. (Because who would follow his doctrines unless they were needy and disturbed?) And that is not talking necessarily about anyone here, but if the shoe fits, wear it.
I definitely came to Christ with a lot of emotional problems. But God helped me work through those issues over many years, and I have peace and contentment in Jesus. So yes, God can and will help us heal, but it is a deep process. And it is so important that we truly know the whole Bible (in English) having read and studied it faithfully, and also having developed a relationship with Christ through daily prayer. To say nothing of being actively involved with caring for others.
I guess I failed to mentioned confessing sin. Because sin does separate us from God.
"But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear." Isa. 50:2
And anyone that says he never sins is a liar!
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1 John 1:8-10
That was NOT written to gnostics! It was written to Christians who thought that confessing their sins was not necessary. Oh right, that is exactly what Joseph Prince and his followers believe.
So their hearts become hardened, they receive false revelations and they turn from the narrow road that leads to Christ, back to a road that either leads them far away - maybe even the broad road that leads to destruction. Did they lose their salvation? Or were they never really saved, that this ear tickling doctrines seduced them so easily?
Maybe we all need to read or re-read Pilgrim's Progress. Certainly this is covered somewhere in that amazing Journey with Christ.
But that does not stop JP from being a false teacher. He "tickles ears." Instead of walking with Christ, being transformed, which includes confession and repentance for sin on a daily basis, people are making unbiblical declarations about "who they are in Christ" which in some cases amounts to a complete denial of the real Christian walk.
I am not going to read Prince's books or watch videos (although I did watch the one by Psalmist above!) to refute him, false doctrine by false doctrine. I don't have to, because everything his followers say show me that something is desperately wrong with a lot of what he is saying. But, like other false prophets, he has mixed some truth in with his writings and preaching, making it difficult for many to sort through the very condemning things he says.
I know Prince followers love to quote Romans 8:1 about believers not being condemned, because Prince says so. Well, in fact the Bible says that. But if you read on in that chapter, Paul does qualify it with many admonitions that you must "live according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:5) And that means confession, repentance, and acknowledging that 1 John 1:9 was written to believers, as all of John's epistles, gospel and Revelation were written to believers. To say we do not have to confess our sins, because they are already covered, is to be taken in by a false doctrine.
No rationalization can cover that!
I won't even get into the fact, from what I have read here, that JP's doctrine is a mile wide and an inch deep. Shallow, in other words. He pays lip service to a few things, but people are following him to get rich, be healthy and get healing for a lot of emotional issues, I think. (Because who would follow his doctrines unless they were needy and disturbed?) And that is not talking necessarily about anyone here, but if the shoe fits, wear it.
I definitely came to Christ with a lot of emotional problems. But God helped me work through those issues over many years, and I have peace and contentment in Jesus. So yes, God can and will help us heal, but it is a deep process. And it is so important that we truly know the whole Bible (in English) having read and studied it faithfully, and also having developed a relationship with Christ through daily prayer. To say nothing of being actively involved with caring for others.
I guess I failed to mentioned confessing sin. Because sin does separate us from God.
"But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, And your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear." Isa. 50:2
And anyone that says he never sins is a liar!
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1 John 1:8-10
That was NOT written to gnostics! It was written to Christians who thought that confessing their sins was not necessary. Oh right, that is exactly what Joseph Prince and his followers believe.
So their hearts become hardened, they receive false revelations and they turn from the narrow road that leads to Christ, back to a road that either leads them far away - maybe even the broad road that leads to destruction. Did they lose their salvation? Or were they never really saved, that this ear tickling doctrines seduced them so easily?
Maybe we all need to read or re-read Pilgrim's Progress. Certainly this is covered somewhere in that amazing Journey with Christ.
Thank God that they were preserved. It would be great to have people like Smith Wigglesworth and Henry Hudson, - well of course they would be heretics to some people too that consider anyone that has a different view on scripture the they do as being - a false teacher/prophet.
I have listened to some of the Dr.'s messages and liked them. It's too bad that some in the "Christian community " thought he was a heretic.
That is not true...Prince is no more a false teacher then you are a man. He just "conflicts" with some of your religious upbringings and you are free to have them.
But to malign a teacher in the body of Christ is not wise.
Here is the very first thing you said that was not true - Prince teaches sin confession and repentance.
As far as saying "who they are in Christ" that you oppose which is complete false.
Philemon 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
You are getting your views from self-proclaimed heretic hunters that continually distort what is being said.
Have you ever listened to a full message from him?
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Most have not listened to even a couple of full messages from Prince but instead read self-proclaimed heretic hunters that are against one or two things that Prince says and thus malign him because he has a different view then they do.
I don't go along with all that Prince or any other teacher says but as far as the gospel of the grace of Christ is concerned - he is spot on. Thousands are getting free from all over the world with the wonderful message of the grace and love of our Lord.
Some need to take the wisdom that was spoken from Gamaliel when the religious people of his day were coming against some of the leaders in Christ.
Acts 5:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown;
[SUP]39 [/SUP] but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God."
Here's the bottom line if people want to continue to slander and have malice towards a leader in the body of Christ whom God has raised up because they have a different view on some aspects of salvation that you were brought up with - then go for it. That is your business.
I don't go along with all that Prince or any other teacher says but as far as the gospel of the grace of Christ is concerned - he is spot on. Thousands are getting free from all over the world with the wonderful message of the grace and love of our Lord.
Some need to take the wisdom that was spoken from Gamaliel when the religious people of his day were coming against some of the leaders in Christ.
Acts 5:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown;
[SUP]39 [/SUP] but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God."
Here's the bottom line if people want to continue to slander and have malice towards a leader in the body of Christ whom God has raised up because they have a different view on some aspects of salvation that you were brought up with - then go for it. That is your business.
1John 1:9 is some people's personal belief and they are entitled to it so what grace believers say about it simply "conflicts" with what some believe.
Grace believers teach sin confession and repentance ( to say that they don't is an outright lie and complete falsehood ) - just not "in order" to be forgiven because they believe the scriptures that say that our sins are forgiven now in Christ.
Forgiveness is a done deal - either believe it or don't believe it.
On the subject of forgiveness that we have in Christ now because of His precious Blood...here is what the scriptures say.....sometimes the truth in the gospel of the grace of Christ "conflicts" with what we have been religiously taught.
1 John 2:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake.
have been forgiven = perfect passive
perfect = The perfect tense in Greek is used to describe a completed past action which produced results which are still in effect all the way up to the present time. It is continuously happening in the present.
passive = voice = action is happening to you....you are not doing it
Without a doubt this verse says that the sins are forgiven from a past action that remains in a continuous completed state and that was put on them....not something they did.
Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
We have redemption = present continuous action...so this means we have present continuous forgiveness of our sins...
and look...that grace stuff shows up again!...it's all according to the riches of our loving Father's grace that He has given to us in Christ our Lord.
Colossians 1:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] in whomwe have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Same thing here too...present continuous action = forgiveness of sins
Redemption!..we have been bought with the precious Blood of Jesus... Let's honor His work.
Brethren ...we have a great salvation in our Lord!
Walk in the knowledge of your forgiveness in Christ and in that security we will experience maturity.
Grace believers teach sin confession and repentance ( to say that they don't is an outright lie and complete falsehood ) - just not "in order" to be forgiven because they believe the scriptures that say that our sins are forgiven now in Christ.
Forgiveness is a done deal - either believe it or don't believe it.
On the subject of forgiveness that we have in Christ now because of His precious Blood...here is what the scriptures say.....sometimes the truth in the gospel of the grace of Christ "conflicts" with what we have been religiously taught.
1 John 2:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake.
have been forgiven = perfect passive
perfect = The perfect tense in Greek is used to describe a completed past action which produced results which are still in effect all the way up to the present time. It is continuously happening in the present.
passive = voice = action is happening to you....you are not doing it
Without a doubt this verse says that the sins are forgiven from a past action that remains in a continuous completed state and that was put on them....not something they did.
Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
We have redemption = present continuous action...so this means we have present continuous forgiveness of our sins...
and look...that grace stuff shows up again!...it's all according to the riches of our loving Father's grace that He has given to us in Christ our Lord.
Colossians 1:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] in whomwe have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Same thing here too...present continuous action = forgiveness of sins
Redemption!..we have been bought with the precious Blood of Jesus... Let's honor His work.
Brethren ...we have a great salvation in our Lord!
Walk in the knowledge of your forgiveness in Christ and in that security we will experience maturity.
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Your continual justification of yourself and/or Prince only makes your case suspect. Did you actually read what you wrote? I only responded to that point. Here is what you wrote..
"Here is the very first thing you said that was not true - Prince teaches sin confession and repentance."
So it sounded as if you were charging Angela with saying that -'Prince teaches sin confession and repentance.'...but it was not true.
"Here is the very first thing you said that was not true - Prince teaches sin confession and repentance."
So it sounded as if you were charging Angela with saying that -'Prince teaches sin confession and repentance.'...but it was not true.
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all I'm going to say, is that the real danger here IMO?
it's people trying to turn others into a bunch of mini me's
don't watch this, don't read that, so and so is hyper grace so don't watch them
I would not do this
I would not do that
I don't believe in tongues
I don't believe in healing
I don't believe in youtube
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I etc
like little ants running around worrying someone is going to step on your anthill
seriously
I am truly not so convinced some of you actually give two whoops about people being led astray as you are about your own world view and how comfy you are while viewing everyone else through your particular filter
believe me, I am not taking sides
I'm only taking God's side and right now, just about all of you should reflect on why you post on here
hate me, love me, I don't care
it's people trying to turn others into a bunch of mini me's
don't watch this, don't read that, so and so is hyper grace so don't watch them
I would not do this
I would not do that
I don't believe in tongues
I don't believe in healing
I don't believe in youtube
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I etc
like little ants running around worrying someone is going to step on your anthill
seriously
I am truly not so convinced some of you actually give two whoops about people being led astray as you are about your own world view and how comfy you are while viewing everyone else through your particular filter
believe me, I am not taking sides
I'm only taking God's side and right now, just about all of you should reflect on why you post on here
hate me, love me, I don't care
Thank you psalmist for this video.
[video=youtube;I7ap1pt5Qqg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ap1pt5Qqg[/video]
Before the first minute lapsed, this gentleman stated a very important fact that I casually overlooked..... The Holy Spirit doesn't convict believers of sin after conversion.
When Prince states that there's no repentance or confession of sin after conversion, that ABSOLUTELY means the Holy Spirit isn't convicting us of that sin anymore. Here is what's at the top of Prince's Facebook page:
The Holy Spirit does not convict the believer of sin, but of his righteousness in Christ! In this powerful message get acquainted with the lovely person of the Holy Spirit and understand His vital role in your life.
Find out how and why being righteousness-conscious with the help of the Spirit is the key to reigning in life. As you allow Him to remind you of the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness you have received through Christ, you'll begin to experience true heart transformation and genuine, lasting freedom from all addictions and bondages!
All-in-all, what Prince offers is a salvation without commitment, confession, conviction, or repentance with a get-outta-bondage-&-addictions card.
When Prince teaches this, he lies on the Holy Spirit & Jesus Himself. Note the scripture:
John 16:7-15 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [SUP]9 [/SUP]Of sin, because they believe not on me; [SUP]10 [/SUP]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; [SUP]11 [/SUP]Of judgment, because the PRINCE of this world is judged. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Hebrews 12:4-17 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: [SUP]6 [/SUP]For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [SUP]8 [/SUP]But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [SUP]10 [/SUP]For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [SUP]13 [/SUP]And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [SUP]15 [/SUP]Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; [SUP]16[/SUP]Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
This doctrine of Prince's sounds like another huge step taken in apostasy.....maybe the last one required.
[video=youtube;I7ap1pt5Qqg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ap1pt5Qqg[/video]
Before the first minute lapsed, this gentleman stated a very important fact that I casually overlooked..... The Holy Spirit doesn't convict believers of sin after conversion.
When Prince states that there's no repentance or confession of sin after conversion, that ABSOLUTELY means the Holy Spirit isn't convicting us of that sin anymore. Here is what's at the top of Prince's Facebook page:
The Holy Spirit does not convict the believer of sin, but of his righteousness in Christ! In this powerful message get acquainted with the lovely person of the Holy Spirit and understand His vital role in your life.
Find out how and why being righteousness-conscious with the help of the Spirit is the key to reigning in life. As you allow Him to remind you of the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness you have received through Christ, you'll begin to experience true heart transformation and genuine, lasting freedom from all addictions and bondages!
All-in-all, what Prince offers is a salvation without commitment, confession, conviction, or repentance with a get-outta-bondage-&-addictions card.
When Prince teaches this, he lies on the Holy Spirit & Jesus Himself. Note the scripture:
John 16:7-15 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [SUP]9 [/SUP]Of sin, because they believe not on me; [SUP]10 [/SUP]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; [SUP]11 [/SUP]Of judgment, because the PRINCE of this world is judged. [SUP]12 [/SUP]I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Hebrews 12:4-17 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: [SUP]6 [/SUP]For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [SUP]8 [/SUP]But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? [SUP]10 [/SUP]For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; [SUP]13 [/SUP]And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: [SUP]15 [/SUP]Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; [SUP]16[/SUP]Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
This doctrine of Prince's sounds like another huge step taken in apostasy.....maybe the last one required.
This is an absolute false comment. He says the complete opposite.
If you don't believe that the Holy Spirit convicts/convinces us that we are righteous because Jesus went to the cross and He is at the right hand of the Father now as our Advocate...that is your business. I won't call you a false teacher - you are just ignorant of what Christ has done for us.
If you don't believe that the Holy Spirit convicts/convinces us that we are righteous because Jesus went to the cross and He is at the right hand of the Father now as our Advocate...that is your business. I won't call you a false teacher - you are just ignorant of what Christ has done for us.
I will post this one more time as I am not going to come back into this thread ( Romans 16:17 ) as there are some that are just wanting to slander a leader in the body of Christ with the mindset that they are defending the faith but in reality they are defending their man-made religious traditions. Repentance is needed.
Most have not listened to even a couple of full messages from Prince but instead read self-proclaimed heretic hunters that are against one or two things that Prince says and thus malign him because he has a different view then they do.
I don't go along with all that Prince or any other teacher says but as far as the gospel of the grace of Christ is concerned - he is spot on. Thousands are getting free from all over the world with the wonderful message of the grace and love of our Lord.
Some need to take the wisdom that was spoken from Gamaliel when the religious people of his day were coming against some of the leaders in Christ.
Acts 5:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown;
[SUP]39 [/SUP] but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God."
Here's the bottom line if people want to continue to slander and have malice towards a leader in the body of Christ whom God has raised up because they have a different view on some aspects of salvation that you were brought up with - then go for it. That is your business.
Most have not listened to even a couple of full messages from Prince but instead read self-proclaimed heretic hunters that are against one or two things that Prince says and thus malign him because he has a different view then they do.
I don't go along with all that Prince or any other teacher says but as far as the gospel of the grace of Christ is concerned - he is spot on. Thousands are getting free from all over the world with the wonderful message of the grace and love of our Lord.
Some need to take the wisdom that was spoken from Gamaliel when the religious people of his day were coming against some of the leaders in Christ.
Acts 5:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown;
[SUP]39 [/SUP] but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God."
Here's the bottom line if people want to continue to slander and have malice towards a leader in the body of Christ whom God has raised up because they have a different view on some aspects of salvation that you were brought up with - then go for it. That is your business.
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You have been listening to JP'S erroneous teaching about the Greek tense in "Your sins have been forgiven ", 1 Jn 2 : 12.
The Greek uses all the tenses, our past repented sins have been forgiven, and our present & future sins will be forgiven when we repent.
You would rather belive a false teacher then the Bible and the Greek.