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peterT

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Some say that it is NOT a mark in the flesh but in the spirit.
What do you think?


Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

If it is in the spirit how does it stop us from buying and selling?

Rv14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
 
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Some say that it is NOT a mark in the flesh but in the spirit.
What do you think?


Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

If it is in the spirit how does it stop us from buying and selling?

Rv14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Hi Peter

It's obvious that it is a physical mark or chip inserted into the skin. Which one? I'm not so sure yet but time will tell. Without this mark we can't buy or sell. A great way for them to corner us, and the biggest decision every living christian will ever undertake when the time comes.
 
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Laodicea

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Daniel 7:23
(23) Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

A beast in Bible prophecy is symbolic of a king or kingdom so the mark of the beast must also be symbolic

Revelation 13:17
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:1
(1) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The issue is over the commandments of God
Revelation 14:9-12
(9) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
(10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
(12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


 
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Ariel82

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what if it means if any man thinks (forehead) or does(hand) the things of the devil? what if that is "receiving the mark"?
 
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Laodicea

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what if it means if any man thinks (forehead) or does(hand) the things of the devil? what if that is "receiving the mark"?
The forehead is where we make our decision, we choose to worship the beast or we choose to worship God, in the hand means by our actions or non action we make a choice to worship either one. Worship is mentioned 8 times in Revelation 13 & 14.
 
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Scotth1960

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#6
Some say that it is NOT a mark in the flesh but in the spirit.
What do you think?


Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

If it is in the spirit how does it stop us from buying and selling?

Rv14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Friends, The number 666 in Greek and Hebrew adds up to "Neron Caesar", Nero Caesar. It's the name of Nero, the Roman Emperor. John was writing Revelation sometime around 64 AD.
See: Gentry, Kenneth L., Jr. (1989). The Beast of Revelation. Institute For Christian Economics.
In Erie Scott R. Harrington

 
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Daniel 7:23
(23) Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

A beast in Bible prophecy is symbolic of a king or kingdom so the mark of the beast must also be symbolic

Revelation 13:17
(17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:1
(1) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The issue is over the commandments of God
Revelation 14:9-12
(9) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
(10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
(11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
(12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


Yes you are correct, beasts are symbolic of kings or kingdoms, but to buy and sell (trade) is a cold hard fact of life. Not symbolic, but a necessity.

The mark is replacing cash, debit and credit cards. One number, one I.D. It affects every-one, great, rich and poor, free and bond. This mark is issued from the false prophet and will be made compulusory. The christians will refuse the mark and will be persecuted because they loved the truth more than the lie and willing to lay down their lives for Christ, knowing that these things must be and our reward awaits us on Christs return.

The new system is ready and waiting to go, and only God refrains the false prophet from appearing until the fullness of the gentiles come in.

If anyone thinks that the mark is spiritual then they will be caught up into the greatest deception ever delivered unto man.
 
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Scotth1960

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Yes you are correct, beasts are symbolic of kings or kingdoms, but to buy and sell (trade) is a cold hard fact of life. Not symbolic, but a necessity.

The mark is replacing cash, debit and credit cards. One number, one I.D. It affects every-one, great, rich and poor, free and bond. This mark is issued from the false prophet and will be made compulusory. The christians will refuse the mark and will be persecuted because they loved the truth more than the lie and willing to lay down their lives for Christ, knowing that these things must be and our reward awaits us on Christs return.

The new system is ready and waiting to go, and only God refrains the false prophet from appearing until the fullness of the gentiles come in.

If anyone thinks that the mark is spiritual then they will be caught up into the greatest deception ever delivered unto man.


Friends, The beast of Revelation is Nero Caesar, and this mark of the beast was already fulfilled in ancient history, in pagan Rome. There is not a good reason to suspect that much of Revelation is yet in the future; if it is, it will be an infallible interpretation of the book of Revelation in the infallible Orthodox Church, not the vain babblings of the papist and protestant sectarians and heretics.
God save us.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

PS 666 adds up to Nero Caesar.


 
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Friends, The number 666 in Greek and Hebrew adds up to "Neron Caesar", Nero Caesar. It's the name of Nero, the Roman Emperor. John was writing Revelation sometime around 64 AD.
See: Gentry, Kenneth L., Jr. (1989). The Beast of Revelation. Institute For Christian Economics.
In Erie Scott R. Harrington
[/QUOTE] Scott, Genesis reveals the beginning of creation, and Revelations reveals the end of this system as we know it (Babylon the Great) Christ did not desert us, but left us valuable knowledge and insight on what must take place before he returns. If we want wisdom, we must heed his words and not be decieved, nor decieve others also.

You have been studying for so long and cannot see this? Even most not committed to Christ know the words in revelations talks about the end. In my experience, that is why they are afraid to pick up the bible and read because it's easier for them to block out and pretend it's not going to happen in our lifetime for fear of what is to come because they love their lives.

Take care and God bless you to reveal his word.

 
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Laodicea

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Yes you are correct, beasts are symbolic of kings or kingdoms, but to buy and sell (trade) is a cold hard fact of life. Not symbolic, but a necessity.

The mark is replacing cash, debit and credit cards. One number, one I.D. It affects every-one, great, rich and poor, free and bond. This mark is issued from the false prophet and will be made compulusory. The christians will refuse the mark and will be persecuted because they loved the truth more than the lie and willing to lay down their lives for Christ, knowing that these things must be and our reward awaits us on Christs return.

The new system is ready and waiting to go, and only God refrains the false prophet from appearing until the fullness of the gentiles come in.

If anyone thinks that the mark is spiritual then they will be caught up into the greatest deception ever delivered unto man.
Before we find out the mark of the beast we need to know who the beast is. Revelation 13 gives identifying marks as to who the beast is.
 
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silverwind

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Friends, The beast of Revelation is Nero Caesar, and this mark of the beast was already fulfilled in ancient history, in pagan Rome. There is not a good reason to suspect that much of Revelation is yet in the future; if it is, it will be an infallible interpretation of the book of Revelation in the infallible Orthodox Church, not the vain babblings of the papist and protestant sectarians and heretics.
God save us.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

PS 666 adds up to Nero Caesar.
the number 666 also adds up to 'computer'... shocking isn't it! (amongst many other names of importance (or not)
 
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peterT

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Hi Peter

It's obvious that it is a physical mark or chip inserted into the skin. Which one? I'm not so sure yet but time will tell. Without this mark we can't buy or sell. A great way for them to corner us, and the biggest decision every living christian will ever undertake when the time comes.
YES.
Weed won’t to pray that it is a mark of the flesh, and not some spiritual mark.

Otherwise you will never convince are Christian brethren not to take it.

Rv14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;

Matt13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,

And the mark should just about do it, sever the wicked from among the just,
 
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Israel

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Will God's people be conquered by a MICRO CHIP? The mark once again has nothing to do with a chip. Truth is truly cast to the ground as even the salvation of God is SOLD FOR PROFIT to His people.
 
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quote=Laodicea;516737]Before we find out the mark of the beast we need to know who the beast is. Revelation 13 gives identifying marks as to who the beast is.
[/quote]Hi Lao. Yes how can we discern? We have to connect the scriptures.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having SEVEN HEADS and TEN HORNS, and upon his horns TEN CROWNS, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had TEN HORNS.

Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou saw the feet and toes, part of potters clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the STRENGTH of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mix with miry clay.

COUNT THE NUMBER OF TOES YOU HAVE ON YOUR FEET LAOS!

This is the first beast. Ten kings at the bottom of the Image in Daniels dream.

Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.

Summary: The first beast is a new system. It consists of ten kings that will rule. This beast who is mighty will pave the way for the false prophet by introducing our new cashless system....warming us up. These 10 kings are going to be destroyed on Christs return.

NOW THE SECOND BEAST IN REV 13

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Daniel 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints and prevailed against them.

Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

THIS SECOND BEAST IS THE ONE THAT WILL ISSUE THE MARK. HE IS CALLED THE FALSE PROPHET (little horn) HE COMES OUT OF THE FIRST BEAST. THE ONE THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR HIM WITH THE TEN KINGS. THE FP IS THE ONE THAT SHALL SPEAK GREAT THINGS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH AND WEAR OUT THE SAINTS. HE WILL CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS AND WE WILL BE GIVEN INTO HIS HANDS FOR 3 1/2 YEARS (REV 7:25) HE WILL ISSUE THE MARK AND MAKE IT COMPULSORY.

He is coming soon. Get prepared. Watch the news. Who will bail out the USA from it's economic collapse? and all the other nations to follow? There has to be a new system.

 
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Laodicea

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Hi Lao. Yes how can we discern? We have to connect the scriptures.

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having SEVEN HEADS and TEN HORNS, and upon his horns TEN CROWNS, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had TEN HORNS.

Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou saw the feet and toes, part of potters clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the STRENGTH of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mix with miry clay.

COUNT THE NUMBER OF TOES YOU HAVE ON YOUR FEET LAOS!

This is the first beast. Ten kings at the bottom of the Image in Daniels dream.

Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.

Summary: The first beast is a new system. It consists of ten kings that will rule. This beast who is mighty will pave the way for the false prophet by introducing our new cashless system....warming us up. These 10 kings are going to be destroyed on Christs return.

NOW THE SECOND BEAST IN REV 13

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Daniel 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints and prevailed against them.

Daniel 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

THIS SECOND BEAST IS THE ONE THAT WILL ISSUE THE MARK. HE IS CALLED THE FALSE PROPHET (little horn) HE COMES OUT OF THE FIRST BEAST. THE ONE THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR HIM WITH THE TEN KINGS. THE FP IS THE ONE THAT SHALL SPEAK GREAT THINGS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH AND WEAR OUT THE SAINTS. HE WILL CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS AND WE WILL BE GIVEN INTO HIS HANDS FOR 3 1/2 YEARS (REV 7:25) HE WILL ISSUE THE MARK AND MAKE IT COMPULSORY.

He is coming soon. Get prepared. Watch the news. Who will bail out the USA from it's economic collapse? and all the other nations to follow? There has to be a new system.[
The 4th kingdom in Daniel 2 & 7 is Pagan Rome. Have you noticed that the beasts in Revelation 13 are in the opposite order to Daniel 7? Daniel has the order of:-
1) Lion
2) Bear
3) Leopard
4) Dragon

Revelation 13 has the order of:-
1) Dragon
2) Leopard
3) Bear
4) Lion

Do you know why it is the opposite order?
It is because Daniel is looking forward while John is looking back.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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what if it means if any man thinks (forehead) or does(hand) the things of the devil? what if that is "receiving the mark"?

That would have nothing to do with the ability to buy or sell good. It has to be a monetary thing. Like a credit card. Except inserted in hand or foerhead. They actually have this capability now
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Will God's people be conquered by a MICRO CHIP? The mark once again has nothing to do with a chip. Truth is truly cast to the ground as even the salvation of God is SOLD FOR PROFIT to His people.
How is Gods salvation sold? Those who have this mark can not be saved!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Friends, The beast of Revelation is Nero Caesar, and this mark of the beast was already fulfilled in ancient history, in pagan Rome. There is not a good reason to suspect that much of Revelation is yet in the future; if it is, it will be an infallible interpretation of the book of Revelation in the infallible Orthodox Church, not the vain babblings of the papist and protestant sectarians and heretics.
God save us.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

PS 666 adds up to Nero Caesar.



Well the "fallible" orthodox church has completely screwed up the interpretation of revelation. Nero ceaser was not the beast. He did not bring fire from heaven among many of the other things the beast is supposed to do. You need to study more and stop listening to men.
 
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Laodicea

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Revelation 13:18
(18) Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

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