666 and Islam?

[Blain]

This was an interesting topic to read and I think many of you are on to something. I do think that if we are to calculate the name then it must mean we are to use the gematria unless of course since the new testament was written in greek we use a similar system if the greek even has one but if I am not mistaken which I may be the name in hebrew that equals 666 is Neron Qesar which means Nero Caesar

 

[Randy4u2c]

666 refers to Satan who in Rev 12:7-9 will be cast out of heaven and come to earth claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. This is the beast mentioned in Rev 13:11-14. He looks like the lamb but is an imposter and speaks as a dragon. Satan appears on earth at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial, hence his number 666. Many don't know that Satan will come first, before Jesus, and will deceive the world into worshipping him as God.

 

[GWH]

I was taught that 666 stood for man as God.
The only religion I could think of is the catholic religion and the pope. In which the pope acts as God on earth.
Embracing a all inclusive universal religion
It also goes back to the Greek way of thinking that the emperor was a deity.
It also identify with the house on 7 hills, blood of the saints, ect.
Also we know that the catholic church has persecuted and killed more christians in history than any other enemy.

Are you sure the Catholics have not been surpassed by the Islamists?

And l guess both are surpassed by the atheist religion.

 

[Leastofall]

Are you sure the Catholics have not been surpassed by the Islamists?

And l guess both are surpassed by the atheist religion.

Quite sure.

 

[greenonions]

Sounds rather far-fetched to say that a Hebrew King's name in English letters has three consonants out of four that are the same as the three consonants in the English name of a religion, Islam, and that that, plus the fact that Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year, is somehow evidence that godly King Solomon was the beast of Revelation. According to the biblical account, Solomon's riches, as well as his wisdom, came ultimately from God:

“Then God said to him: "Because you have asked this thing, and have not asked long life for yourself, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have asked the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern justice, "behold, I have done according to your words; see, I have given you a wise and understanding heart, so that there has not been anyone like you before you, nor shall any like you arise after you. "And I have also given you what you have not asked: both riches and honor, so that there shall not be anyone like you among the kings all your days.” (1Ki 3:11-13 NKJV)

Let me clarify that I agree that Solomon is not the beast. Instead, Solomon is a clue for determining the identity of the beast.

Solomon's name in the Hebrew Bible is שְׁלֹמֹה, which roughly corresponds to S/Sh - L - M - H. The original Hebrew Bible doesn't use any vowels, so removing them is not an arbitrary trick. I used English because it is easier to understand. The corresponding letters to S/Sh - L - M in Arabic are ش - ل - م , which are the Arabic consonants for the word "Islam".

 

[Gideon300]

Revelation 13:16 (NKJV) Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

The man seems to be Solomon because he received 666 talents of gold year by year (1 Kings 10:14; 2 Chronicles 9:13), and he has wisdom and understanding (1 Kings 4:29).

The Hebrew Old Testament was written with consonants only. So Solomon would be something like SLMN (not exactly, but you get the idea). Hebrew and related languages also have 3-consonant roots as the basis of words, so, let's consider the first three consonants: SLM. Notice how you spell Islam with only consonants: SLM.

What do you think?

Do you imagine that Solomon will be reincarnated? There have been a number of theories about 666. Martin Luther calculated 666 to be the pope. Roman Catholics calculated Martin Luther to be 666 also.

Personally, I believe that the beast will be the head of a pseudo church that consists of a merger of Judaism, Roman Catholicism and Islam. These are the mythical Abrahamic religions accepted by too many Christians. There is a building in Qatar that houses a Roman Catholic place of worship, a synagogue and a mosque. There is a group within those religions that think a merger would be a good thing. In reality it is unutterably evil. It's a modern day equivalent to the tower of Babel and God will deal with it severely. But not before much of the world is deceived.

 

[DavidLamb]

Let me clarify that I agree that Solomon is not the beast. Instead, Solomon is a clue for determining the identity of the beast.

Solomon's name in the Hebrew Bible is שְׁלֹמֹה, which roughly corresponds to S/Sh - L - M - H. The original Hebrew Bible doesn't use any vowels, so removing them is not an arbitrary trick. I used English because it is easier to understand. The corresponding letters to S/Sh - L - M in Arabic are ش - ل - م , which are the Arabic consonants for the word "Islam".

But I don't understand (sorry!). If the Arabic consonants for the word "Islam" show that Islam is the beast, and the same consonants are bin "Solomon", how does that not indicate that Solomon, in your idea of how these things work, is not the beast?

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Let me clarify that I agree that Solomon is not the beast. Instead, Solomon is a clue for determining the identity of the beast.

Solomon's name in the Hebrew Bible is שְׁלֹמֹה, which roughly corresponds to S/Sh - L - M - H. The original Hebrew Bible doesn't use any vowels, so removing them is not an arbitrary trick. I used English because it is easier to understand. The corresponding letters to S/Sh - L - M in Arabic are ش - ل - م , which are the Arabic consonants for the word "Islam".

Ah, I see. So you think the final antichrist will be a Muslim? I don't believe so. I can't see him knocking down the Dome of the Rock (which is beautiful by the way; I'm going to miss it) just to install the third temple for the Jews, because you know, MUSLIM. I think that idea has been bounced around as a distraction from the real final antichrist so he can rise up the political ladder quietly, unnoticed and unimpeded.


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[Pasifika]

In the book of Daniel it state the beast (antichrist) will be from Persia (Iran).

 

[shittim]

In the book of Daniel it state the beast (antichrist) will be from Persia (Iran).

It's my understanding scripture indicates Greece, and at the time it was written eastern Turkey was a part of Greece, Pergamon specifically.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

In the book of Daniel it state the beast (antichrist) will be from Persia (Iran).

Which chapter and verses? Because the book of Daniel talks about all the leaders that represent parts of the statue, not just Persia. The final antichrist (the feet made of iron and clay) comes from the Roman Empire which encompasses both West and East (two feet coming from the two legs) parts of the Roman Empire, but was dominated by Greek and Western civilization. Plus there were no Muslims at that time when the leader of that time rose to power. Islam came to be in 7th Century.


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[Pasifika]

It's my understanding scripture indicates Greece, and at the time it was written eastern Turkey was a part of Greece, Pergamon specifically.

It (beast) first appeared as a Greek but it will appear a second time as a Persian (Iran).

 

[Pasifika]

Which chapter and verses? Because the book of Daniel talks about all the leaders that represent parts of the statue, not just Persia. The final antichrist (the feet made of iron and clay) comes from the Roman Empire which encompasses both West and East (two feet coming from the two legs) parts of the Roman Empire, but was dominated by Greek and Western civilization. Plus there were no Muslims at that time when the leader of that time rose to power. Islam came to be in 7th Century.


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Dan 10:20

 

[shittim]

This is new to me, Pergamon was where thew Temple to Zeus was located, dismantled, moved to Berlin, a copy of it was made at Nurnberg, Hitler spoke from it at the stadium.

 

[Pasifika]

It (beast) first appeared as a Greek but it will appear a second time as a Persian (Iran).

Rev 17:8, (talks about the beast as "once was, now is Not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss)..

 

[shittim]

https://www.bethimmanuel.org/audio/satans-throne

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Dan 10:20

Ah, okay. It's talking about angelic guardians protecting and fighting for Israel against their enemies Greece and Persia, but doesn't talk specifically about the antichrist.

Rev 17:8, (talks about the beast as "once was, now is Not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss)..

This could be the antichrist, but it doesn't seem associated to him coming from Persia (or even Greece).

It's interesting though. Maybe I will study this later!


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[Pasifika]

Ah, okay. It's talking about angelic guardians protecting and fighting for Israel against their enemies Greece and Persia, but doesn't talk specifically about the antichrist.




This could be the antichrist, but it doesn't seem associated to him coming from Persia (or even Greece).

It's interesting though. Maybe I will study this later!


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The antichrist is an "angel" in human form. Rev 9:11. (ie Apollo in Greek mythology)

Thanks, for your time

 

[Gideon300]

It's my understanding scripture indicates Greece, and at the time it was written eastern Turkey was a part of Greece, Pergamon specifically.

Many believers understand the Beast in Daniel to be Antiochus Epiphanese, a truly monstrous dictator who claimed to be Zeus. He persecuted Jews and did his best to "Hellenize" Jewish society. He sacrificed a pig on the temple altar.

The following link is helpful.

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...he-bibles-most-notoriously-forgotten-villain/

Personally, I think he is one of many types of the Antichrist yet to come.

 

[ConfirmByDoing]

Here's another link to Islam. The colors of the four horseman and the flags of most Palestinian centric countries are the same.

"In the Book of Revelation, the four horsemen of the apocalypse ride horses of white, red, black, and pale (or greenish), representing conquest, war, famine, and death, respectively."

"Here's a more detailed breakdown:
White Horse: The first horseman, often associated with conquest or the Antichrist, rides a white horse.
Red Horse: The second horseman, representing war and bloodshed, rides a red horse.
Black Horse: The third horseman, symbolizing famine, rides a black horse.
Pale Horse: The fourth horseman, identified as Death, rides a pale horse, sometimes described as greenish."

https://youtube.com/shorts/SIAC2yCY1uk?si=lzgF7on5ksXUIdu7

Quick Google search of similarities between the four horseman and the beast.....

"The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and the Beast in the Book of Revelation are distinct figures but share some conceptual and thematic connections. Here's how:
1. Agents of Judgment and Suffering:

• "Both the Four Horsemen and the Beast are associated with bringing hardship and judgment upon the earth.
• The Horsemen represent conquest, war, famine, and death – inflicting physical suffering.
• The Beast, especially in its role as the Antichrist, leads opposition to God, persecuting believers and promoting a false system that leads to spiritual suffering."

2. Representing Satan's Power and Influence:

• "The Beast is explicitly linked to Satan, receiving its power and authority from the dragon (Satan).
• The Horsemen, while instruments of God's judgment, can also be seen as manifestations of the chaos and destruction that result from the influence of evil in the world."

3. Symbolism of Kingdoms and Oppression:

• "The Beast often symbolizes oppressive earthly powers or empires that oppose God and persecute his people.
• The Horsemen, particularly the red horse of war and the pale horse of death, depict the consequences of those oppressive powers on humanity."

4. Progression of Events:

• "Some interpretations see the actions of the Four Horsemen as setting the stage for the rise and rule of the Beast/Antichrist.
• The Horsemen's calamities create a chaotic environment where a false leader (the Beast) might gain power and control."

In Summary:
"While the Four Horsemen are generally viewed as divine judgments released by God, and the Beast as a primarily evil entity empowered by Satan, they are interconnected within the larger narrative of Revelation. They both contribute to the suffering and chaos of the end times, acting as different facets of a broader picture of God's judgment and the reign of evil in the final days."

That's just a quick Google search(busy days right now), but if others can provide more similarities I'd like know them. Thanks!