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The destiny of human "flesh" must follow that path. That's why Jesus commanded his disciples to preach he best way of life. Few will realize and adopt that.
 

Ahwatukee

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Hello WordSwordsman,

If anyone not using the popular electronic banking systems could demonstrate how someone could get around the Beast's electronic system, the rest of us need to know so we can strengthen our economic system. Meanwhile, trade of goods is left to what neighbor values of neighbor. Used wickedly that results in unbalanced international trade currency.

While it is a good practice to always have emergency supplies, ultimately I believe that as believers we should be trusting in the promise of the Lord that he will keep us out of that time of tribulation when God's wrath will be poured out.

The stockpiling of food during that time period will be of no affect regarding the rest of the events of the wrath of God. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are going to affect all people on the planet during that time, decimating the majority of the population and dismantling all human government.

Consequently, the stocking of food is not going to protect the inhabitants from those demonic beings that are going to be coming up out of the Abyss at the 5th trumpet, who will be tormenting people with stings like that of a scorpion for five months. And it will not prevent those four angels with their demonic army of 200 million from killing a third of the earth's population. The best resolution is to not be here on planet earth when these things begin to take place, which is what Jesus has promised to those who trust in Him. For we are not appointed to suffer God's tribulation of wrath.
 

Ahwatukee

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More non-scriptural nonsense like your 7 year tribulation theory. We are to prove all things by the words of God, but you cannot provide one single verse of scripture to support a 7 year tribulation theory
Below is one scripture that you said I could not provide:

"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

"So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."

So there is the scripture proof that you said that I could not provide, which you will circumvent and distort because it does not fit with you belief.

or a micro chip implant theory as being the mark of the beast. It's all non scriptural.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

Understanding this is just a matter of reading the scripture and observing what is taking place in the world in how people are currently buying and selling. If the Spirit has opened ones eyes, they will be able to apply the electronic crediting and debiting system to the fulfillment of that coming mark. Scripture states that "unless anyone had the mark, they would not be able to buy or sell, which applied to us today would be crediting and debiting. People make a purchase, swipe their card and their bank account is debited in real time for the purchase price. The same goes for gas, rent, bills, movies, restaurants and every other business transaction.

That said, it does not take much to understand what this is all leading up to. A literal device (mark) on/in the skin of the hand or forehead will be what replaces cash, checks, card swiping, cell phone bank apps., and whatever other devices are used to credit and debit ones bank account. Once again I have supplied the scripture which you said is not scriptural. The fact is that, the technology for a literal fulfillment, which you are arguing against, is already here.

So I say, keep watching and you will continue to see this technology evolve into that mark. Cash and checks will continue to be phased out, with electronic crediting and debiting becoming the norm. Eventually, all other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, leaving only that mark as a means of crediting and debiting ones bank account and thereby forcing people to receive it in order to be a part of the financial system.


Don't argue about it, Just keep watching! A literal fulfillment for this coming mark is already apparent and that because it is already happening.
 
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Below is one scripture that you said I could not provide:
Again that verse is not about a 7 year tribulation at all, not to mention it is a distorted translation. That is about Messiah the prince who brought in the New Covenant fulfilling the prophecy. So again you cannot provide a single verse that confirms this imaginary 7 year tribulation.

So there is the scripture proof that you said that I could not provide, which you will circumvent and distort because it does not fit with you belief.
Once again, you did not provide any proof at all. Show the scripture-s that say the mark of the beast is a micro chip. I already showed by the words of God that sin is shown as a mark. See how that works? You confirm it by the words of God. In that study I posted that is exactly what I did, proving and providing many proofs by the words of God that it is indeed the Truth.

Don't argue about it, Just keep watching! A literal fulfillment for this coming mark is already apparent and that because it is already happening.
I agree, it is already happening and has been happening ever since sin entered into the world. Many are already worshiping the Devil by doing his will/desire which is by living to the lusts of the flesh=sin. The number, the name, the image and the mark all have to do with serving sin which leads to death, as Death is the name we get the victory over when we are made free from sin by Jesus Christ. Those who commit sins are of the Devil and are servants of sin and thus they are marked by whom they serve. Same with those who God marks with His name and His Spirit as his servants of righteousness.

Every thing I show in that study is right in line with the words of God, but those who of the spirit of this world will not, and cannot receive them. Just as those who are of the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth because "it" (the spirit of a lie) sees him not.

You are servants to whom you obey and are marked, either by sin unto death, or by obedience unto righteousness which leads to Eternal Life through Jesus Christ.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Revelation 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
 
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According to Rev 6, the Lord Jesus will protect olive and grape production. Where I live lots of us in the countryside keep some kind of grape vine, ours being muscadines. They are great survivors of drought, needing no help. There's still a significant supply of olive trees around the world, the nearest to us in California, but those are being replaced with almonds. I think that's a huge mistake due to the scarcity of water there. Having access to those two trees will go a long way toward survival of 2/3 of earth's population upon the arrival of Jesus on his white horse.

The war to come is now certain to destroy satellites and all public communications, including the internet. Once that war breaks out world-wide, an electronic banking system will be rendered impossible. E-bombs can accomplish the coming electronic armageddon, frying computers, cell phones, even pacemakers.

In Rev 6 it ought to be pointed out that though food will become scarce, obviously it will be available for billions of people to live on. Right now people can purchase food for part of a day's wages, but in the tribulation a day's food for one person will cost a whole day's wages. Anyone with gold or silver coins will find food to buy without a microchip that has been fried in the war. Storing up gold and silver is becoming quite popular, while it appears to me people are tired of storing up survival food. I did that for decades, most of it expiring or going rancid before rotating it.

When all that hits the world, governments will proceed to seize stored food, water, coins/gold dust/precious stones, and whatever else ("for the common good") is needed to maintain a military used to do the seizing, even though that's unconstitutional in the USA.

Many people will starve to death before the Antichrist starts his economic system, and many more will decline to take part to get food.

In the end surviving gentile nations will serve the survivors of Israel, according to Isaiah. Under Jesus' rule the world will continue on for his thousand year reign.

I agree it would be better to escape it all by rapture, which I believe is for Christians still living righteously, not part of the coming apostasy. For the disciples of Christ there are also assurances of provision by faith in God, listening and obeying carefully to the Spirit like Elijah did, and many more through ages of perils.
 

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What if you were shown wisdom and understanding, because of prayer, to count the number of his name but none believed you?

You cannot find it on the internet or on YouTube, probably because the key words are so overused and because of false conclusions being overabundant.

If you seek and pray to our heavenly Father to give you wisdom and understanding to identify the beast, then the name will be revealed to you, and you may then count it.

If I told you, then you wouldn't believe me. If God tells you, then I pray you take it better than I did. But counting isn't too hard, so don't feel discouraged.
 

maxwel

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666 = Carbon ?



So... like... all my burnt toast...

that's really the antichrist?