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WomanLovesTX

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666...do you know the anatomy of bar codes and the uses of the microchip? Does the bar code actually have 666 in it? Does the creator who finally perfected the bar code system, who admits himself that he has 6 letters in each of his name (first, middle and last name) he has and believes that there is no 666 actually read by the computer, it only appears as 666 to the human eye reading the barcode. The computer reads it as 0's and 1's. A binary code. See What about barcodes and 666: The Mark of the Beast? for the history of the barcode, translation of original words in the Bible, very interesting read.

I saw an IBM commercial back in 1999, (it goes like this to the best of my recollection) this man in a black overcoat goes into a grocery store and begins picking up items and placing them inside his overcoat. He then precedes to the exit, stops and adds a magazine into his overcoat. He walks through one of those detectors (like you see at the airport and in federal and municipal buildings) before he walks to the exit. There is a uniformed officer and he says to the man in the overcoat, "Sir, hold up". "Yes", the man in the black overcoat says as he turns to look at the officer. The officer hands him a receipt and says "You forgot your receipt. Have a good day, sir." End of commercial. I have only seen that commercial once. Never again seen. Was I just one of the lucky few who viewed this commercial by IBM?

If the microchip is placed in your right hand or forehead, can the microchip read barcodes and/or transmit your identiy, bank account, etc. ? Is our society on the brink of a cashless society? Could these two inventions be tied to "without the mark, no man can buy or sell?"
 
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Ok let's first look what's written in scripture:
(I always put the whole text in it to keep it in context)
Revelation 13

1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




There's a big possibility electronics has something to do with it. Not only because of nano-technology but also because they're into biotechnology today.
In Belgium there's even a research going on on the system of the nerves of the body, they try to make an interface between the human body and electronics. There's a possibility to do this because the brains actually send signals with electricity (it's a matter of micro ampéres though).
Because electronics is getting smaller and smaller, they will need less energy, so there's a possibility that they might even make these integrated circuits run on the power of our own body (just a hypothesis). Of course, they have to find a way to make this device able to stay intact in our body without any other physical or technological problems.
A barcode could have been possible but I don't think that they will use that because first of all,walking with a barcode that's on your head seems not really attractive to people. And second of all, there's a problem with barcodes and scanners. A scanner has to be able to read the barcode on a perfect position (which means, it can't be crooked to make the scanner read this.)
What is possible though is that they might use a chip based on a magnetic field. You don't have to possition it right and your body is a great conductor for it too plus, you can store a lot more information in such a devise which might even be enough to function as an ID-card.


It's just a hypothesis I made, I can be totally wrong so don't take my words for truth.
Technology changes so quickly, they easily find ways to make semiconductors smaller and more organic.


The interesting thing is that they keep the name of this man in a code.
I wonder if it's also written like that in the original greek translation.


Blessings in Christ


Sarah
 

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Most governments would dearly love to do away with cash. Why? Because then they would have absolute knowledge of just how we spend and make our money. They think that this would preclude any criminal activity, or any tax evasion, and would give them absolute control over the economy. I think that society will crumble before they find the technology to go completely to a cashless system. There have been great strides in this pursuit though, debit cards and internet sales just being two.

When the system begins to fail worse than it is now, when all hope seems to be lost for a resolution to societies insurmountable problems, and people become desperate for any solution which will allow them to maintain their way of life, with the least amount of pain, then they will be ready to accept the son of perdition, the antichrist who will come with all signs and lying wonders, seeming to have an answer for every problem. And there may be some great technological wonders during his reign which allow his government to control all commerce, in the areas that he controls. For he will not rule the entire world, and this will be a time of great conflicts of war.
 

zone

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WLTx this is an area i have a lot of time into.
i am not entirely sure of what the mark will be, though the implant seems like a good candidate. this site discusses Chi-Xi-Stigma quite well.

i believe the mark, though economic in nature must also verify worship (a mark of ownership) when it is enforced by the son of perdition - i personally suspect it will somehow incorporate the star of chiun/remphan.​

Amos 5:6
But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

Acts 7:43
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.



from: RidingtheBeast . com


Verichip and 666 - Epi, Charagma, and Chi-Xi-Stigma

There are many people out there pointing to microchips like the Verichip to fit the role of the Mark of the Beast. Most of the time Biblical evidence to support such claims is lacking. One may even begin to think that such support doesn't exist. But if we look closely at the Greek words directly associated with the Mark of the Beast, such as Epi, Charagma, and Chi-Xi-Stigma, it becomes clear that Biblical support for such a mark is very strong.

Epi - Looking into the Language of Revelation

One of the most common claims against a microchip implant is that the Mark of the Beast is supposed to be "on" the hand or forehead and not "in" the hand or forehead. Does Revelation Revelation 13:16, Revelation 14:9-10, and Revelation 20:4 refer to a mark in the body or on the body?

The overwhelming majority of translations opt for on. In fact, all modern versions use "on". I've come across only two translations that side with in; the much beloved King James Version, and Webster's Bible (translated by Noah Webster of Webster's Dictionary fame.)

It's not easy to discard the work of the 54 scholars that painstakingly translated the KJV by committee [1] as well as the work of the wordsmith Noah Webster, a man who single handedly wrote his own dictionary [2]. It would be foolish to write off such dedication in favor of modern translations that exist solely to make a buck.

According to James Strong [3], both "in" and "on" are valid translations of the Greek word epi. Epi's many definitions include "into", "in a place", and "among", all of which perfectly describe the placement of modern day RFID implants such as Applied Digital Solution's Verichip. The Verichip is easily injected "into" the body "in a place", the hand or forehead, and remains "among" the flesh.
Strong's definition of "among" really starts to make sense when one considers the patented BioBond [4] coating that enables the surrounding tissues to fuse with an otherwise smooth glass capsule. BioBond was a solution to the problem of RFID microchips migrating when implanted under the skin of household pets. This coating makes the Verichip implant very difficult to remove without surgery and is what makes it "stick". In other words, like the Verichip, the Mark of the Beast is likely to stay once implanted.



Charagma - The Mark in Mark of the Beast

The Greek word for mark is charagma. Strong's Concordance defines charagma as "a scratch or etching", "a badge of servitude", "graven", and finally "mark" [5]. Strong's also notes that charagma is directly related to the Greek word charax, which means "to sharpen to a point" and "a stake" [6].
From these definitions we get a clear picture of a surface being pierced by a sharp point, or the act of using a tool to engrave. The relationship between the Mark of the Beast (charagma) and a syringe that pierces the skin is obvious. It's also been noted that a microchip is etched or engraved during it's production [7].
The definitions of charagma — coupled with the fact that the Verichip is injected using a specialized syringe — make it clear that the Mark of the Beast could very well be a microchip injected into the hand.
The earliest use of the word Charagma outside of the Bible describes the piercing bite of a snake. There's a disturbing connection between the piercing serpent Satan (Isaiah 27:1), the "bite of the serpent" (charagma), and a syringe-injectable microchip like the Verichip. I challenge you to think of something that resembles a syringe more closely than the fang of a snake!
"[Charagma] is an engraved, etched, branded or inscribed 'mark' or 'sign'. Closest to the original sense[...] is the earliest example in Soph. Phil., 267, where [charagma] denotes the bite of a snake."
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (vol 9, page 416)
"any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded, ch. echidnes the serpent's mark, i.e. its bite, sting"
Charagma - Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon


The book of Amos mentions the day of the Lord and a serpent bite to the hand in consecutive verses. This may foreshadow the Mark of the Beast in the last days.



Amos 5:18-19
  1. Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
  2. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
There's an important warning in verse 18 about desiring the last days. Even though we may recogize the signs of the end times we should in no way desire or try to hasten them because they are full of pain and suffering. Consider the following:

Ecclesiastes 10:8 He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.

A hedge symbolizes protection, so let God take care of you! It may prove to be a blessing to give your life rather than accept the bite of the serpent, the charagma, the Mark of the Beast.

A Grievous Sore

As noted above, one of the definitions of Charagma is graven. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language defines graven as follows: "1. To sculpt or carve; engrave. 2. To stamp or impress deeply; fix permanently."

With permanence in mind let's consider Revelation 16:2. What is a noisesome and grievous sore? Obviously this type of sore would cause a person much anguish and grief, but could it be that the grievous sore not only causes grief but is caused by grief?



Body modification and self inflicted wounds are now commonplace among a restless generation. Imagine for a moment that someone has finally accepted that they have a mark in their body that will **** them to an eternal firey hell.

What's the first thing they'd try to do? Remove it of course! And they'd go to extreme measures to do so. It would become a grievous sore. Click the image to see a video clip depicting this scenario. This is a grievous sore indeed (not for the faint of heart). And that microchip looks exactly like the Verichip, only a little bigger!

Now consider the words of Jesus in Mark 9:43 and Matthew 18:9 where He speaks about removing your hand or eye rather than burn in Hell. Are Jesus' words spiritual or prophetic? Maybe both.
Ever heard of eyeball jewellery? [8] How easy would it be to implant a Verichip under the outer layer of tissue on the back of your eyeball? That sounds scary, but has probably already been done. So would that chip be "in" the eyeball or "on" the eyeball? Does that fit the description of the forehead? Possibly.

Chi-Xi-Stigma Six Hundred Threescore and Six 666

Much like the original authors, the Biblical scholars of the King James Bible (KJV) chose to spell out the number 666 - Six hundred threescore and six. This is one of the rare exceptions in the Bible where words are used rather than numbers to describe a numeric value. God inspired these men to spell it out - Six hundred threescore and six - so that we can gain a further understanding of the Mark of the Beast.

Interestingly, spelling out 666 in words accurately preserves the original use of the Greek language. If we look at the Greek we see that 666 is presented with three words: Chi - Xi - Stigma.


The numeric values of these three Greek letters add up to 666. Strong's Concordance gives stigma the following definition: "to 'stick' ... a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership) ... mark." With the definitions of stick, incised, punched, and mark, stigma is very close to the definition of charagma.

Stigma and charagma both support the idea of a syringe injectable microchip like the Verichip. Stigma has also made it into the English language where it's defined as "a mark of infamy or disgrace," there's an obvious carryover from its use in Revelation.

There's another notable correlation between the Verichip and 666, Chi-Xi-Stigma. One of the earliest public faces of Applied Digital Solutions was Digital Angel. Due to the alarming character of the technology it was quickly discovered that the Digital Angel logo contained a hidden but obvious 666 [9]. See the image below and also note the light that is centered on the forehead.

go to site....​

Digital Angel isn't the only product with a name or logo that links to 666. The connection between 666 and acquired products seems to have become a trend for Applied Digital Solutions' Verichip Corporation. If nothing else they add to the mounting evidence revealing the nature of the Mark of the Beast and 666. It's hard to write these off as mere coincidence.


A recent acquisition by Applied Digital Solutions is eXI Wireless. Remember that Xi is the 60 in 666. Another purchase is Xmark (who's products include WatchMate and Hugs.) The similarities are obvious. Also worth mentioning is Somark Innovations, a company that manufactures invisible RFID ink used to tattoo cattle for tracking [10].

Token of Perdition

While the Mark of the Beast and 666 are disgraceful to God and most Christians, they won't be to the average man. The Mark will eventually be commonplace because of its close relationship to money, identification, and commerce. Where any of these are found security is close by.


In English one of the more intriguing definitions of stigma is "token." Anyone familiar with digital security will recognize a token as a physical device that's used to gain various levels of access [11]. That's exactly what the Verichip is. Security is huge when it comes to commerce, and security will play a large role in selling the Mark of the Beast.

The following news excerpts demonstrate the welcoming of such a security token.
Ultimately, the ideal solution for merchants will be a reader that is based on an open standard and capable of accepting each card's contactless token. The convergence of contactless payment
"I wanted to get chipped," he says. "It's entirely up to me what I put on my chip, I've been involved with authentication for 20 years, working with biometrics, and I was promoting the token. Now I am the token." RFID is literally getting under people's skin
Like the Verichip, a security token almost always carries a unique number on it. One must wonder if this somehow relates to 666, the "number of his name" (Revelation 13:17-18, Revelation 15:2).
Even though Xi and Chi don't have outright definitions like Stigma does, they still provide some insight into the Mark. Chi is depicted as an uppercase X and is used to symbolize Christ [12]. This possibly hints at the Antichrist's likening to a lamb with two horns (Revelation 13:11), refering to his probable Christian facade or promises of peace (Leviticus 23:19).

Many Eastern traditions hold that Chi is an internal energy flow. While this is a spiritual belief, it's still an interesting fact that future versions of the Verichip will run on an internal energy source.



The shape of Xi as written in Greek shares a close likeness to a curled up snake ready to strike. This is another hint to Charagma as the bite of a serpent. Stigma also resembles a serpent that is coiled and ready to strike. And as noted by one of our readers, the antenna in the Verichip is a coil of wire.

Conclusion

Charagma, epi, and xi-chi-stigma (666) all have very important meanings. After studying the Greek words its easy to see that the Mark of the Beast is closely related to implants like the Verichip. We must honestly weigh all the evidence when considering this possibilty, it's much more than just coincidence and hype so take heed.

Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
 

zone

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hey.....
it's been pointed out that the greek letter is SIGMA, not STIGMA.
sorry.
 
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scm1147

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verry...verry...interesting...
 
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kimitsusei

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Hi Zone

That's quite an eye-opener!

Thanks
 
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Yes good subject & information here. Just to add my humble piece, for those out ther who don't know the name of the inventor of a particular set of numbers used in a format which is used in buying and selling, the barcode, his name is George Joseph Laurer. We are told the 1st beast (empire) will use a number for buying and selling, a number of a man, the 2nd beast (false prophet) will enforce its worldwide use. Its very probable that number of that man is George Joseph himself. Many are dedicated to counting the names of world leaders in the hope of revealing that wicked one who is to come. He wants to be seen as a saviour, if his name added up to 666, it would straight away undermine him. God wouldn't use numerology, correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding of numerology is that it is of the occult sciences in origin. Dealing with the 'mystical' power of names, and the numbers correlating to them? If thats so, how would we count his name siince God wouldn't want us dabbling in that said 'art'? And who has 666 letters in their name? But if we merely count the letters in that name, restarting at middle and last names, then no law of God is compromised and the answer comes clear. George=6 Joseph=6 Laurer=6. He being a man, his invention being the barcode, that barcode being used in trade. the number of a man. I wonder what form this number will be used in? If in chip form, will the chips themselves have a barcode stamped on them for identification access to the information in those chips? So that name is still relevant, which it has to be, or will the barcode be laser imprinted on the bone of our forheads & the onto the inner casing under the skin of our hands? Therefore in our hands & in our forheads ? Not everyone has hands, but we all have heads. I have seen reports of a machine that can do this. Has anyone else?
 
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please keep in mind that ANY number or name can be made into 66 if you use the right kind of mathematics

I do agree that the use of identifying people with microchips is incredibly creepy though, but if connected with money, and interpreted VERY looesely, even credit cards/ VISAS could be seen as "the mark". I think that when the mark comes, it will be clear to everyone that this is something they have to CHOSE:
either God, OR this. Just my opinion though.
 

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i enjoyed reading your post - i was reading about the mark of the beast last night on a christian website.

I would like to add that what you are saying about the man in the black overall - that story - its in America right now. Its getting bigger
-apparently it is to stop with the in-efficent way we shop, where we put everything we want in an trolley - take it out of the trolley again and get it scanned and paid for - and then putting it back into the trolley - then out of the trolley into ur car or whatever.
So yes- its very much here - the Mark of the beast. These chips are very much in circulaton and are getting bigger.

In regards to it being a cashless world ect - no buying/selling. We know it has a lot to do with the economey - and look at the world economey as a whole atm. Not only this, but having these Chips will better combat mugging ect - coz there wont be any cash
-there will be no identy fraud , or stolen cards ect. No need for ID cards, Credit Cards or anything. It is all read on these chips. Smart Cards are also starting up, which is a card, no a chip but it has the same generall idea.

These chips will lso help with security, at aiports ect. And help with murders ect - It is the most IDEAL thing for this world - it will appear perfect for all the people in this world and for that reason it will be hard for many to refuse. seeing all the PRO'S it has. and no CON'S will be given.

-The only CON and most important though - is everlasting life in hell
as soon as you accept this chip, all hope of salvation is then lost.

God Bless
Kathleen
 

zone

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i've posted this on other threads you can search if you care to.

i believe the number of the man, Six hundred threescore and six (VERY IMPORTANT TO COMPARE YOUR TRANSLATION TO KJV....serious changes) will be attached to one who comes "in his own name", as Jesus warned.

if you do a simple parallel check using that specific number spelled in words as in KJV, the ONLY OTHER REFERENCE in the bible is in reference to GOLD paid as tribute to SOLOMON the APOSTATE (who caused the split between the houses, ended the Judahic Kingline branch on Solomon's end through David). it's very important for us to know that Jesus THE TRUE MESSIAH came through David indeed, but through David's OTHER SON, NATHAN (see Luke 3).....NOT Solomon. Only Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords. the throne of David remained in waiting for the Branch indeed, but not via SOLOMON.

a simple check into modern "Judaism" reveals they believe their "Mosiach" will come via SOLOMON's line.

do a simple search concerning Freemasonry and Solomon/Temple cult.

just something to research: MUCH can be learned.

The Word, being all about JESUS, is then all about two groups of human beings: JEW and GENTILE (all non-jews). though gentiles took part in the killing of Christ, it was His own who received Him not. they wanted ANOTHER MESSIAH.....and they are going to get one.

people looking for Jesus "at any moment" may also be deceived, not understanding that the deception MUST COME FIRST. Jesus said it will be so severe, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, the very elect would be deceived .

take heart though!: that phrase is a strong negative in the greek (Char can confirm?) meaning it is in no way possible, not by any means for the elect to be deceived since it is the Lord that KEEPS us from that Temptation - see Rev 3:9 etc)

i believe people who point to a "New Age" Christ, Matreiya, whomever, are already looking at the "MANY" false Christs, rather than waiting to see exactly who THE SON OF PERDITION is, who will stand on the temple mount claiming to be God, deceiving people by making "fire come down from heaven": what would that fake miracle accomplish?

ALOT if it was to seem like FIRE FROM GOD ONTO A SUPPOSEDLY APPROVED ANIMAL SACRIFICE! an a FALSE PROPHET calling himself Elijah could appear to do such a thing!!

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God said here is wisdom,let he that has understanding count the number of the beast,for it is the number of a man,and his number is 600,60,and 6.

God said here is wisdom.How much wisdom does it take to know the number 666 on a person.Now much wisdom so it has to be more than that.

God said count the number of the beast,and when you break it down to 600,60,and 6,it is 6 letters chi,xi,stigma.

The definition of stigma is to stick,prick,or incise,for recognition of one's ownership,scar of service(mark).

The definition of mark is to sharpen to a point,the tool or engraver that administer the mark,gives an exact likeness of the person.

The truth is that the mark of the beast will be the microchip,inserted by a hypodermic needle,that gives a likeness of the person on computer.

President Clinton said that the computer will one day be the one world economic system.

No man may buy or sell without the mark because it is the one world economic system.

It will be given to identify a person,which they will have a picture of themselves on computer,and all information about them,and all their finances will be done on computer.

They will put it in the right hand or forehead,because that is where the temperature is the hottest in the body to keep the lithium in the chip charged up.

A doctor said if the lithium breaks open in a person and the lithium leaks out it will cause a grievous sore.

The first wrath of God will cause a grievous sore to whoever took the mark of the beast.

The microchip is the mark of the beast because the world will say it is all about man and his technology can save the planet.

The antichrist will appear and say it is all about man and his devices and technology can solve the problems of the world.

When the world takes the mark of the beast they are sealed to be lost and God will take His children home to heaven.

The New Age religion believes in the power of numbers.They believe that the number 6 is the number of a man,and has assigned the number 666 to the coming New Age Christ,because they believe it will give that man more power.

The number 666 is a man who will go by the number 666 thinking it will give him more power.

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How can the mark and this antichrist everyone is waiting on be so recognizable? Isn't the end coming just as it did in the days of Noah? They didn't have any signs so why should we? We must remember that we wrestle not with flesh and blood.
 

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How can the mark and this antichrist everyone is waiting on be so recognizable? Isn't the end coming just as it did in the days of Noah? They didn't have any signs so why should we? We must remember that we wrestle not with flesh and blood.
the "END" you are speaking of, just as in the days of Noah, is THE VERY END....just before Jesus Returns. He described His coming that way for those who were like the wicked OUTSIDE the ark: eating, drinking, giving in marriage, presumably mocking and persecuting Noah.....until the doors were closed and the flood started: they didn't believe that their doom was at hand.

the bible is FILLED with testimony of what it will be like before Jesus Returns:
see Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21, for example.

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the "END" you are speaking of, just as in the days of Noah, is THE VERY END....just before Jesus Returns. He described His coming that way for those who were like the wicked OUTSIDE the ark: eating, drinking, giving in marriage, presumably mocking and persecuting Noah.....until the doors were closed and the flood started: they didn't believe that their doom was at hand.

the bible is FILLED with testimony of what it will be like before Jesus Returns:
see Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21, for example.

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Exactly, so why assume anything different? Is this not what's happening now? Wouldn't a micro-chip, which is not the mark of the beast, let everyone know, both of those in Jesus and of those outside of Jesus the time we're in if this chip was what most claim to be?
 

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Exactly, so why assume anything different? Is this not what's happening now? Wouldn't a micro-chip, which is not the mark of the beast, let everyone know, both of those in Jesus and of those outside of Jesus the time we're in if this chip was what most claim to be?
there are people who have not received the love of the truth.
God said in Amos He would send a famine in the last days....but not for bread: for hearing the words of The Lord. Because they have rejected knowledge, He said He would reject them.

there are lots of people willingly taking the chip right now, and i do think the world will be FORCED to take it or some form of it. it's clear we are headed there - an absolute dictatorial control system. accepting the chip means absolute dependence on THE STATE (Caesar). that is rejection of Trust in God anyways - cursed is the man who maketh flesh his arm; who trusteth in man.

but, like you, i am not so sure it is THE mark. satan is very very very clever. he has counterfeited and done bait and switches from the start, and it's going to get really intense. i understand scripture to say that the son of perdition will be here BEFORE the world is forced, or caused (KJV) to receive the mark in the forehead or in their right hand, or be killed. i believe it will be first and foremost a RELIGIOUS badge of ownership or allegiance, which has obvious economic consequences. but i'm not sure yet. i keep watching everyday.

either way, i'm not taking ANYTHING of the sort. The Lord will provide.

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zone

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How can the mark and this antichrist everyone is waiting on be so recognizable? Isn't the end coming just as it did in the days of Noah? They didn't have any signs so why should we? We must remember that we wrestle not with flesh and blood.

As for us not having any "signs", when that words is used it means regarding the Jews, who always wanted a sign. the greeks (gentiles) wanted "knowledge" (secret/gnostic proof in other ways) - neither of these being FAITH and belief in The Word.

we are SUPPOSED to be watching constantly. look what Jesus says here. He is saying GET UNDERSTANDING, get wisdom.....obviously from Him:

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and, yes, we wrestle against spiritual forces of darkness....but they use MEN.

i have no sword, other than the SWORD in my spiritual armour (Eph)

anyways....
take care
z
 
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Israel

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As for us not having any "signs", when that words is used it means regarding the Jews, who always wanted a sign. the greeks (gentiles) wanted "knowledge" (secret/gnostic proof in other ways) - neither of these being FAITH and belief in The Word.

we are SUPPOSED to be watching constantly. look what Jesus says here. He is saying GET UNDERSTANDING, get wisdom.....obviously from Him:

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

and, yes, we wrestle against spiritual forces of darkness....but they use MEN.

i have no sword, other than the SWORD in my spiritual armour (Eph)

anyways....
take care
z

The mark is what it has always been. Transgression of the law.
 
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JessLovesYahweh

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Great post WomanLovesTX!!

I do think the mark of the beast will be the RFID chip.. because If you knew the NEW WORLD ORDER PLANS.. you would understand why they want to implant RFID chips in humans, and get rid of money as it is right now..
if you don't accept to have the chip, you would not be able to buy or sell (cause there will not be any kind of money) and you would not be able to live in the society unless you accept to get the chip..
you would probably need it to get inside of some places and even to be able to work! so...
in my opinion if the RFID chip is the mark of the beast or not..we still should reject the project they have and never ever accept to have a chip inside our bodies where they can track us every move we make..
let us not become more sheeple than we already are since they have been conditioning us for years through the media and all the systems!

BTW ;)
Here is the video you were talking about:

YouTube - IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market


NWO PLANS:

ONE World Government
ONE World Currency
ONE World Religion (the antichrist)

if you don't believe me look at the USA dollar.. it is all writtenl there!!




PEACE :))
 
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