7 signs of apocalypse on TV

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DinoDillinger

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I just watched a show on the history channel about stuff in Revelations, ofcourse mostly done from a scientific point of view showing how they could happen in natural world occurences.

The part of the show that really troubled me (besides not mentioning that people are called to repent in these times) is at the end of the show. If you have seen the show correct me if I'm wrong, but, they said that the people of the world in the end would make war with the anti-christ (from chap. 19), basically flipping it.

Either I misunderstood something or they were saying that those who the kings of the earth serve (the anti-christ) was the Christ. It sounded like they were telling people to stand with the anti-christ in armageddon.

Has anyone seen this?
 
MahogonySnail

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No but thats a remarkable obversation.

So it's the world powers like the allies and America and England etc making war against the anti-Christ. Presumbably most countries like America think themselves to be on God's side so I guess it figures from a humanistic perspective.

But it's the kings of the earth who are on satans side fighting agaainst Christ:

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.


But I'm not sure if those kings are only a couple of kings who side with the anti Christ and there are other kings who aren't sided with the anti Christ? There's only 10 kings, I'd imagine there's many more in the world at the time. Maybe the otheres are neutral? like switzerland, don't know. Because it seems like in Rev 19:19 that Christ is fighting by himself.


But if we consult some bible commentaries, actually these verses aren't really talking about some great earthly battle between armies over the anti-Christ, but describing the consistent persecution of the church by these kings which is "making war", and who will eventually be overcome by Christ - at judgement day I suppose. It's largely a spiritual or religious battle and it would be surprising if any earthly forces be involved at all.
 
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Semiazas

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ive seen it. i dont remember it ending that way. all i remember is it describing the battle of armageddon.
 
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Sounds like another messed up scheme of the devil to trap people into believing lies.

Yea... I don't watch anything on the history channel that talks about the Bible or Jesus. When it comes to those topics, I'm not going to take teaching from someone who's not of God.
 
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Because the way Christ and the church overcomes is not by fighting with weapons , but by persevering to the end. That's what overcoming the anti Christ really means I think:


Rev 2:10 Do not at all fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the Devil will cast some of you into prison, so that you may be tried. And you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful to death, and I will give you the crown of life.
Rev 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
 
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Rissa77 said:
Sounds like another messed up scheme of the devil to trap people into believing lies.

Yea... I don't watch anything on the history channel that talks about the Bible or Jesus. When it comes to those topics, I'm not going to take teaching from someone who's not of God.
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the history channel interviews lots of ppl of god, like priests, preachers, theologians, bible scholars, etc. thats what makes those shows interesting. but i assume what u mean is that you dont want to hear anyone saying anything that goes against your point of view.
 
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That's not what I'm saying. That's a bubble perspective of life and I don't live that way. And I didn't know they interviewed those people.
 
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Unfortunately, half of what those Godly people who are interviewed say is cropped, cut, edited, and turned completely around. I prefer not watching something on TV to get an idea of what God wants for me. I've got the Bible, and it's a truly first hand account of what I'm supposed to be doing and what will happen. I don't need biased editing and deceptive cinematics. Or, hey, why not talk to a priest yourself instead of relying on someone else to do it?
 
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There ya go, harley_angel. Second time you've put things into words when I cannot. Thanks girl!
 
DinoDillinger

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Something else I found odd about the show was that the scientists all pretty much thought the things were going to happen or could very possibly happen, none that I saw considered faith saving them but that science might be able to.

The theme was kinda like, the christians believe it will be ok for them in the end but we (secular people) need to find a way out of this. It was mind boggling.
 
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You're welcomed Rissa!

Dino, it sounds like an interesting show to use as a way to study the Scriptures on the subject, a sort of comparison study.
 
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DinoDillinger said:
Something else I found odd about the show was that the scientists all pretty much thought the things were going to happen or could very possibly happen, none that I saw considered faith saving them but that science might be able to.

The theme was kinda like, the christians believe it will be ok for them in the end but we (secular people) need to find a way out of this. It was mind boggling.
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your boggled that someone presented their own viewpoint, and "gasp", its different than yours? its scary poking your head out of your shell isnt it.
 
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yeah i seen this on the other day flipping through channels, It irks me though how always on the history channel or any other shows they do about christianity how they always try to disprove everything by a scientific view. like making jesus out to be a ordinary man. thats why i mostly just change the channel when those shows come on.
 
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yeah i seen this on the other day flipping through channels, It irks me though how always on the history channel or any other shows they do about christianity how they always try to disprove everything by a scientific view. like making jesus out to be a ordinary man. thats why i mostly just change the channel when those shows come on.
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must be a bit disconcerting, how easy it is for them to do this.
 
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My favourite are the ones where they publicize it like they are going to use the Bible to do something like, find the Ark, and you think, whoa, cool, they are actually going to show something biblical and talk about it in a biblical way. And then you get to watching it and all it is is an hour long documentary on how the Bible has been proven wrong, how the Ark never existed, and how the flood story was false. It's like...sad face.
 
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i think that one also mentioned something about how finding the ark isnt as important as beliefs. and i dont think it ever said the flood story was false, just brought up possibilities of how it could have happened differently, since there are lots and lots of ancient flood stories in other cultures and faiths.
 
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Semiazas said:
your boggled that someone presented their own viewpoint, and "gasp", its different than yours? its scary poking your head out of your shell isnt it.
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I just got my shell thanks, and I remember very well the answers the world has to offer people. I also know how happy the secular world is with the science they worship for all the answers in life. I'm not saying that science doesn't have it's uses mind you.

As for it being mind boogling, I'll try putting it in terms that you can relate to.

Imagine this, you turn on a religious show, and they talk about a new disease that has broken out. Then they go on to spend the rest of the show talking about faith healings and possible ways that God can save them from the disease. They mention that the secular world has a solution for the problem but dont even bother elaborating on it. Now you, who had just seen the day before on the news about the vaccine that just came out for this new disease wonder to yourself..

Why, do these people take heed of the warnings of science about this disease then totally ignore the answers that science has to the problem?
 
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So I thought this thread was going to be about bad TV shows, and how they are a sign of the apocalypse. Disappointing. :(
 
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Rissa77 said:
Sounds like another messed up scheme of the devil to trap people into believing lies.

Yea... I don't watch anything on the history channel that talks about the Bible or Jesus. When it comes to those topics, I'm not going to take teaching from someone who's not of God.
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I am with you on this one Rissa77, well said.


Soli Deo Gloria

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Although the History channel etc, may interview people who say they are from God, it does not mean that it is a Godly program.


Soli Deo Gloria

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