Attack of the seventh day adventists

[RickShafer]

I live in the country, and so being, I see certain species crop up at certain times of the year.
Certain grasses at one time, certain weeds at another, and even certain flying insects seem to swarm during one evening a year. - (Depending on their species)
So this seems to be the day for the seventh day adventists.
At least three threads about the sabbath being holier than the rest. - (Even a good friend was carried away by it, but he was already prejudiced to that particular doctrine)

Nothing wrong with it, it is just funny to see it.......so resemble other indigenous species.

 

[john832]

I find the ignorance of the Sabbatarian world here amazing. There are over 500 different Sabbatarian organizations and the SDAs are but one, yet the only name that these folks seem to know is Seventh Day Adventist. Hmmm, don't know much about it but sure willing to share their opinions.

 

[Josh321]

I live in the country, and so being, I see certain species crop up at certain times of the year.
Certain grasses at one time, certain weeds at another, and even certain flying insects seem to swarm during one evening a year. - (Depending on their species)
So this seems to be the day for the seventh day adventists.
At least three threads about the sabbath being holier than the rest. - (Even a good friend was carried away by it, but he was already prejudiced to that particular doctrine)

Nothing wrong with it, it is just funny to see it.......so resemble other indigenous species.

i feel so bad rick.. this cultism of man made rules.. just dragging people faster down to hell.. i have so much friends in it, and it's so sad to see they so full in the world can't help smoking partying drinking sex nothing but soon friday evening reach, they got so annoyed sometimes and say.. boy i wish it wasn't sabbath this evening got a cool party tonight wish i could've went... it's so sad to see... HOW CAN YOU TELL SOMEONE WHO IS BORN IN SIN? TO FOLLOW SOMETHING? it's so sad to see man.. i try to help some of them by telling them come bible study, they tell me just come to church on saturday.. and they truly think they are saved because they keeping this one particular day holy and might i add CANNOT KEEP THE OTHER COMMANDMENTS, i really would like to just sit down and have a long talk with one of you on CC if you have an open mind and willing to find the truth yourselves instead of just going into a conversation with an adventist mindset, if you do that you will be against anything that goes against what you believe in and would even reject the truth in that process

 

[thecreationtutor]

Just have them read the book of Galatians

 

[Josh321]

the worst part is when the truth is presented they say, but my church don't preach it like that, so it must be wrong

 

[KohenMatt]

<-----Not SDA, but love the Sabbath itself, as well as the rest of the Torah.

Although I agree, there can be a lot of hypocrisy within the Sabbatarian movement.

But the same holds true for any sect or denomination of Christianity in general.

I suppose it's just the nature of man and it's battle with the flesh vs. the Spirit.

Have a great day everyone!

 

[RickShafer]

i feel so bad rick.. this cultism of man made rules.. just dragging people faster down to hell.. i have so much friends in it, and it's so sad to see they so full in the world can't help smoking partying drinking sex nothing but soon friday evening reach, they got so annoyed sometimes and say.. boy i wish it wasn't sabbath this evening got a cool party tonight wish i could've went... it's so sad to see... HOW CAN YOU TELL SOMEONE WHO IS BORN IN SIN? TO FOLLOW SOMETHING? it's so sad to see man.. i try to help some of them by telling them come bible study, they tell me just come to church on saturday.. and they truly think they are saved because they keeping this one particular day holy and might i add CANNOT KEEP THE OTHER COMMANDMENTS, i really would like to just sit down and have a long talk with one of you on CC if you have an open mind and willing to find the truth yourselves instead of just going into a conversation with an adventist mindset, if you do that you will be against anything that goes against what you believe in and would even reject the truth in that process

Well, people are not receptive at all.
Especially today, when they can have it their way.
Just signs of the times.
It is getting to the point when they will defame you for telling them the truth.
It is to such an extent that they will kill you and say - "We did it for righteousness" - and everyone will laugh.

But Jesus is real, and I know I will see Him in the latter day, when He stands upon the earth.
Though corruption destroys this body, in my flesh I will see God!

Anytime brother. Anytime you can P.M. me.
We are birds of a feather, total outcasts!

 

[RedTent]

Just have them read the book of Galatians

Some people read Galatians without understanding a word. I have heard some who say Paul is saying that he is against everything of his parents, turned completely on his race, and thinks God the Father is apologizing for all the mistakes He has made.

 

[RedTent]

Josh: they tell me just come to church on saturday.. and they truly think they are saved because they keeping this one particular day holy and might i add CANNOT KEEP THE OTHER COMMANDMENTS,

I am no Seventh Day Adventist, although I would rather have Saturday than Sunday worship because God talks about Saturday and not about Sunday except it is a day of sun worship, but it sounds to me like the kettle calling the pot black. The church says just come to worship on Sunday, although Paul says the day is not the most important thing. I don't think any one church denomination can say that their members are more sinless than other denominations except the Mormons and Muslims and they are more disciplined in some cases but they are not following God.

 

[CoooCaw]

yes, then there are those who want to attack the one true bible

I live in the country, and so being, I see certain species crop up at certain times of the year.
Certain grasses at one time, certain weeds at another, and even certain flying insects seem to swarm during one evening a year. - (Depending on their species)
So this seems to be the day for the seventh day adventists.
At least three threads about the sabbath being holier than the rest. - (Even a good friend was carried away by it, but he was already prejudiced to that particular doctrine)

Nothing wrong with it, it is just funny to see it.......so resemble other indigenous species.

 

[danschance]

I live in the country, and so being, I see certain species crop up at certain times of the year.
Certain grasses at one time, certain weeds at another, and even certain flying insects seem to swarm during one evening a year. - (Depending on their species)
So this seems to be the day for the seventh day adventists.
At least three threads about the sabbath being holier than the rest. - (Even a good friend was carried away by it, but he was already prejudiced to that particular doctrine)

Nothing wrong with it, it is just funny to see it.......so resemble other indigenous species.

Rick, I tend to disagree with you that keeping the Sabbath is a harmless endeavor.

For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace. Gal. 5:4

This is actually a serious sin. If a numb skull keeps even a single part of the Mosaic law (i.e. circumcision, keeping the Sabbath, abstaining from pork, etc.), he might be forfeiting his very salvation in Christ. That is most serious!

 

[maxwel]

I honestly never realized there were so many Christians who believed they needed to keep the Sabbath, and live like Old Testament Jews, until I joined CC.

Nevertheless, if those people are saved, and born-again Christians, then they are my brothers and sisters, and I need to love them. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I can disagree with someone and still love them.

The problem in debate about the Sabbath, is that although there are some New Testament scriptures explaining what our view of the Sabbath should be, it is principally a matter of hermeneutics. If someone's pastor is using weird hermeneutics, then you just can't explain things in a few minutes... it's a long process.

That said, if you are a saved Christian who wants to keep the Sabbath, and you are trusting completely in Christ's atonement... then you are my brother or sister in Christ. And as a general rule, I probably have more time to pray for you than argue with you, lol.

 

[danschance]

I honestly never realized there were so many Christians who believed they needed to keep the Sabbath, and live like Old Testament Jews, until I joined CC.

Nevertheless, if those people are saved, and born-again Christians, then they are my brothers and sisters, and I need to love them. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I can disagree with someone and still love them.

The problem in debate about the Sabbath, is that although there are some New Testament scriptures explaining what our view of the Sabbath should be, it is principally a matter of hermeneutics. If someone's pastor is using weird hermeneutics, then you just can't explain things in a few minutes... it's a long process.

That said, if you are a saved Christian who wants to keep the Sabbath, and you are trusting completely in Christ's atonement... then you are my brother or sister in Christ. And as a general rule, I probably have more time to pray for you than argue with you, lol.

There really are not that many legalists out there. They just can't accept the grace of God and heap obsolete rules on people.

 

[KohenMatt]

I honestly never realized there were so many Christians who believed they needed to keep the Sabbath, and live like Old Testament Jews, until I joined CC.

Nevertheless, if those people are saved, and born-again Christians, then they are my brothers and sisters, and I need to love them. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I can disagree with someone and still love them.

The problem in debate about the Sabbath, is that although there are some New Testament scriptures explaining what our view of the Sabbath should be, it is principally a matter of hermeneutics. If someone's pastor is using weird hermeneutics, then you just can't explain things in a few minutes... it's a long process.

That said, if you are a saved Christian who wants to keep the Sabbath, and you are trusting completely in Christ's atonement... then you are my brother or sister in Christ. And as a general rule, I probably have more time to pray for you than argue with you, lol.

It would great if more people would try to make the distinction you've made here about where us "Sabbatarians" put our source of salvation BEFORE they go off on how legalist and heretical we all are. Sure, there are some out there who have an improper balance of Law and Salvation, but it's my experience that most have their salvation grounded in the right thing, grace. The Sabbath comes after that.

Great post. Great Conclusion.

 

[Angela53510]

Actually, I think the number of Sabbatarians on CCis disproportional to the number of Sunday worshiping Christians in the real world. We have about 10 churches in my small town of 60,000. Only one of those is SDA and there are some very large churches that are normal Protestant churches. So maybe 1 in 50 in my town? I wonder what the stats would be in other towns?

I have nothing against Sabbatarians celebrating on the day of their choice. But when they start coming on here and threatening everyone with hell and/or destruction because of not following one particular commandment, I really have to draw the line and walk away.

Following Christ determines whether we are saved. Not following a law!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

There really are not that many legalists out there. They just can't accept the grace of God and heap obsolete rules on people.

Thus they would be a laegalist/. that is the defenition of legalism. They mock the grace of God and heap obsolite rules and regulations on people. demanding they must do them or they must not be saved ( or will lose salvation if they do not continue to do them)

 

[RedTent]

There really are not that many legalists out there. They just can't accept the grace of God and heap obsolete rules on people.

A legalist is someone who uses obedience as a substitution for salvation. All people who obey the law are not legalists. Obedience is something entirely different. The term legalists is often used by people who believe in some sin they prefer to Christ's way to excuse their love of that sin.

 

[maxwel]

Hey Redtent,

Hope you've been doing well.

About legalism... just a small point.
Since the word "legalism" isn't in the scripture... then we can really define it any way we please.
It really doesn't mean much of anything.

But Grace is in the bible, salvation is in the bible, and the Sabbath is in the bible too.
Those things we can biblically define and debate.

I don't like getting into semantic debates about words that are extra-biblical.

God Bless,
Max

 

[john832]

Actually, I think the number of Sabbatarians on CCis disproportional to the number of Sunday worshiping Christians in the real world. We have about 10 churches in my small town of 60,000. Only one of those is SDA and there are some very large churches that are normal Protestant churches. So maybe 1 in 50 in my town? I wonder what the stats would be in other towns?

I have nothing against Sabbatarians celebrating on the day of their choice. But when they start coming on here and threatening everyone with hell and/or destruction because of not following one particular commandment, I really have to draw the line and walk away.

Following Christ determines whether we are saved. Not following a law!

Actually, I have never threatened anyone with hell for not keeping the Sabbath. I have defended the Sabbath and defended against the threat of going to hell for keeping it. About this time, it would be good for you to read post #11 in this thread. I am accused of sinning a very SERIOUS sin by keeping the Sabbath day.

 

[danschance]

Actually, I have never threatened anyone with hell for not keeping the Sabbath. I have defended the Sabbath and defended against the threat of going to hell for keeping it. About this time, it would be good for you to read post #11 in this thread. I am accused of sinning a very SERIOUS sin by keeping the Sabbath day.

...and posts 16 and 17 can be added to you list. Legalism is very serious....in a bad way.