A misinterpretation of 1 Corinthians 3 I found

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LW97

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There are people who think that at the Judgement Seat of Christ people would burned up. That doctrine is more popular than I thought - of course under people who don't believe in eternal security. But this doctrine is easily refuted.

When Paul is saying "every man's work" in vs. 13-15, he means it. On the other hand, Paul's work in 1 Cor. 9:1 is talking about his converts. As a matter of fact, read the whole chapter, Paul is CLEARLY talking about ministry and how he conducts himself in the ministry. On top of that, no people are referred to as "wood, hay, stubble". Converts are referred to as "precious stones" (Malachi 3:17; Zech. 9:16; Prov. 31:10). It is obvious through reading the chapter, that only "gold, silver, precious stones" count. Because "wood, hay, stubble" can burn up. "wood, hay, stubble" is actually a reference to deeds done for the flesh, the old nature which the Christian is dead to (Heb. 9:14; Gal. 2:20). Wood is a dead tree. Hay is dead grass. Stubble is dead wheat. Souls are referred to "precious stones", atleast when they are saved. Not "wood, hay, stubble". The Body of Christ is called a "pearl of great price" in Matthew 13. There is no contradiction with this passage approving Eternal Security. You look at 1 Peter 3:21, it does tell you exactly what "saved by fire" means in 1 Cor. 3:15. 1 Peter 3:21 states "saved by WATER", meaning no water touched any of the saved; because they were in the ARK. Lot is also saved by "fire": i.e, the fire never touched him. 1 Cor. 3 has the same idea as 1 Peter 3. No contradiction. Therefore, "wood, hay, stubble" CAN'T refer to people. It would completely eliminate the meaning of dead works (Heb. 9:12) and also the meaning of being dead in Gal. 2:20. There is a reason Paul has picked three dead materials. True converts can never be "wood, hay, stubble" because they CAN'T end up in that situation in the first place.
 

Latour

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There are people who think that at the Judgement Seat of Christ people would burned up. That doctrine is more popular than I thought - of course under people who don't believe in eternal security. But this doctrine is easily refuted.

When Paul is saying "every man's work" in vs. 13-15, he means it. On the other hand, Paul's work in 1 Cor. 9:1 is talking about his converts. As a matter of fact, read the whole chapter, Paul is CLEARLY talking about ministry and how he conducts himself in the ministry. On top of that, no people are referred to as "wood, hay, stubble". Converts are referred to as "precious stones" (Malachi 3:17; Zech. 9:16; Prov. 31:10). It is obvious through reading the chapter, that only "gold, silver, precious stones" count. Because "wood, hay, stubble" can burn up. "wood, hay, stubble" is actually a reference to deeds done for the flesh, the old nature which the Christian is dead to (Heb. 9:14; Gal. 2:20). Wood is a dead tree. Hay is dead grass. Stubble is dead wheat. Souls are referred to "precious stones", atleast when they are saved. Not "wood, hay, stubble". The Body of Christ is called a "pearl of great price" in Matthew 13. There is no contradiction with this passage approving Eternal Security. You look at 1 Peter 3:21, it does tell you exactly what "saved by fire" means in 1 Cor. 3:15. 1 Peter 3:21 states "saved by WATER", meaning no water touched any of the saved; because they were in the ARK. Lot is also saved by "fire": i.e, the fire never touched him. 1 Cor. 3 has the same idea as 1 Peter 3. No contradiction. Therefore, "wood, hay, stubble" CAN'T refer to people. It would completely eliminate the meaning of dead works (Heb. 9:12) and also the meaning of being dead in Gal. 2:20. There is a reason Paul has picked three dead materials. True converts can never be "wood, hay, stubble" because they CAN'T end up in that situation in the first place.
This is error. Compare this account with 2 Tim. 2: 20, 21

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

It is speaking of the same thing...and it is EVERY man. The ministry thing is a strawman ...

It is the GWT judgment of the house of God.
 

LW97

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This is error. Compare this account with 2 Tim. 2: 20, 21

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

It is speaking of the same thing...and it is EVERY man. The ministry thing is a strawman ...

It is the GWT judgment of the house of God.
No, it is the Judgement Seat of Christ which is BEFORE the Millenium.
 

notuptome

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How could there be a misinterpretation of scripture especially here on CC.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Deade

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True converts can never be "wood, hay, stubble" because they CAN'T end up in that situation in the first place.
Just whom was Paul addressing in 1 Cor. 3?

Divisions in the Church (subtitle in KJV)

1 Cor. 3:1-4 "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?"

Apparently it was the works of believers Paul was talking about.

Latour said: This is error. Compare this account with 2 Tim. 2: 20, 21

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

It is speaking of the same thing...and it is EVERY man. The ministry thing is a strawman ...

It is the GWT judgment of the house of God.
Here is what this is addressing, a false teaching by a couple of fellows (saved?)
2 Tim. 2:17-18 "And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some."


The GWT judgment comes nowhere near the house of God, and it is still 1000 years in the future.

No, it is the Judgement Seat of Christ which is BEFORE the Millenium.
No judgment seat for believers, their judgment is daily through trials and troubles.

And right after the rapture of the church...
What? See above. :cool: