A Saint's Guide to Sinning Less

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Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

It is as simple as allowing the Spirit to lead you,which you will show the characteristics of the Spirit,which you are abstaining from sin,in which you are not under the law.

Do not be deceived,the children of God,and the children of the world,are known by their lifestyle.

You live in sin,you are under the law,you allow the Spirit to lead you,you are not under the law.

But we can always be forgiven,which is a good thing.

If they claim Christ,but live in sin,they are not of God,at least not at that time,until they repent,and allow the Spirit to lead them.

It is possible to abstain from sin,for the same Spirit Jesus has,is the same Spirit we can have to work in us,the same as the man Christ Jesus.

God gets the glory for us being saved.

Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh_12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Also this is funny that they say God chooses who will be saved in the beginning,when Jesus draws all men unto Himself.

Joh_15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

1Co_12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


God gets the glory for us coming to Christ,repenting of our sins,and allowing the Spirit to lead us,for we would of not gotten to that point if it were not for the intervention of God in our life.

And only by allowing the Spirit to lead us can we be right with God,so God gets the glory for us being saved.

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

God gets the glory for us being saved,because He got us to the point of being led of the Spirit,and without His intervention we would of not got to that point,and when we are saved,and allow the Spirit to lead us,we are on our merry way.

But we have a choice in the matter whether to allow the Spirit to lead us,or not,for the same rule applies whether Old Testament,or New Testament,that is you do not comply,you will be cut off,like they were cut off in the Old Testament for not complying.

God gets us to the point of having the Spirit,but some people deny the Spirit leading them,after they confess Jesus as Lord,and Savior,and repent of their sins,and some never get the Spirit,and some later on will allow the Spirit to lead them,and some get the Spirit right away,and allow the Spirit to lead them,and some stop allowing the Spirit to lead them,and some never get back in the Spirit,and some allow the Spirit to lead them again.

We have a choice whether to allow the Spirit to lead us,or not,if we are not led,we are under the law,if we are led we are not under the law.

Do not be deceived.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

But if a person does not allow the Spirit to lead them,they can always get in the Spirit,for the gifts,and calling of God,are without repentance,which means God will not turn from it,and look at how Israel got chance,after chance,to get right with God,and will get right with them in the future.

But the same rule applies in the Old,and New,if you do not comply then you will be cut off,but it did not come form God,but the person that did not want to comply.

Do not be deceived,for there are a lot of people that think their lifestyle does not matter,and they are in good salvation status,even though they are somewhat worldly,and I have to heed to this also,and if I do live in sin,I still know I am not supposed to,for we should not fool our self,because it feels comfortable.

 

[PeterJens]

Adding to scripture?

Elijah is complaining Ahab had put all the prophets of God to the sword.
Elijah thought he was alone. Only God knew, that He had kept 7,000.

I would say that is what you would describe as hidden. Now dear reader, when you read
scripture use your brain, and think what it means, and how you would write it.

Also notice the rebuke, 1. I am adding to scripture 2. Do not do this

1. I was not adding to scripture I was understanding it
2. Interpretation is 99% of the power of the word. It is through putting
everything together we get a clear picture.
You can see a censoring personality when a command is issued without
even adequate foundation, as if they also have authority to do such a thing
it makes me laugh, lol

Have you noticed God does not tell us how to interpret, in the parables he lets
us discover the meaning.

Domination tells you, understand it this way no other.

 

[Willie-T]

Adding to scripture?

Elijah is complaining Ahab had put all the prophets of God to the sword.
Elijah thought he was alone. Only God knew, that He had kept 7,000.

I would say that is what you would describe as hidden. Now dear reader, when you read
scripture use your brain, and think what it means, and how you would write it.

Also notice the rebuke, 1. I am adding to scripture 2. Do not do this

1. I was not adding to scripture I was understanding it
2. Interpretation is 99% of the power of the word. It is through putting
everything together we get a clear picture.
You can see a censoring personality when a command is issued without
even adequate foundation, as if they also have authority to do such a thing
it makes me laugh, lol

Have you noticed God does not tell us how to interpret, in the parables he lets
us discover the meaning.

Domination tells you, understand it this way no other.

What is that?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Adding to scripture?

Elijah is complaining Ahab had put all the prophets of God to the sword.
Elijah thought he was alone. Only God knew, that He had kept 7,000.

I would say that is what you would describe as hidden. Now dear reader, when you read
scripture use your brain, and think what it means, and how you would write it.

Also notice the rebuke, 1. I am adding to scripture 2. Do not do this

1. I was not adding to scripture I was understanding it
2. Interpretation is 99% of the power of the word. It is through putting
everything together we get a clear picture.
You can see a censoring personality when a command is issued without
even adequate foundation, as if they also have authority to do such a thing
it makes me laugh, lol

Have you noticed God does not tell us how to interpret, in the parables he lets
us discover the meaning.

Domination tells you, understand it this way no other.

Peter, You added to scripture, You said something that was not there.

One man went and hid (in sin I might add) because he thought he was the last one left. God said, no, Your not the last one, I have kept 7000. Then he told the one man to stop hiding and go do something.

Thats gods word. WHat you said is not in gods word, you added to scripture.. You can not prove your point. Thats an opinion, which is not supported.

RUn from those assumptions. And stick with facts, it will do you well

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Adding to scripture?

Elijah is complaining Ahab had put all the prophets of God to the sword.
Elijah thought he was alone. Only God knew, that He had kept 7,000.

I would say that is what you would describe as hidden. Now dear reader, when you read
scripture use your brain, and think what it means, and how you would write it.

Also notice the rebuke, 1. I am adding to scripture 2. Do not do this

1. I was not adding to scripture I was understanding it
2. Interpretation is 99% of the power of the word. It is through putting
everything together we get a clear picture.
You can see a censoring personality when a command is issued without
even adequate foundation, as if they also have authority to do such a thing
it makes me laugh, lol

Have you noticed God does not tell us how to interpret, in the parables he lets
us discover the meaning.

Domination tells you, understand it this way no other.

Yet thats funny, Thats exactly what your doing..

 

[PeterJens]

What is that?

Domination is one person saying this is the way to take things. I have the truth and this is the interpretation.
Cults use it all the time, and authoritarian groups. It normally indicates failure.

 

[Willie-T]

VVhich is precisely the point of this thread. Identity.

Over the past five years, we have probably had more sermons at our church about understanding our true IDENTITY, than anything else.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Over the past five years, we have probably had more sermons at our church about understanding our true IDENTITY, than anything else.

Mine too, And our discipleship meeting and cell groups. It is one of the most important doctrines, Mess this doctrine up. Most others will not matter..

 

[Willie-T]

Domination is one person saying this is the way to take things. I have the truth and this is the interpretation.
Cults use it all the time, and authoritarian groups. It normally indicates failure.

I figured that must be what you meant. But, none of that happens here.

You guys ignore us, and we ignore you. You guys laugh at our beliefs, and we laugh at yours. How is anyone "dominating" anyone else?

 

[PeterJens]

Interpretation

Now Elijah hid. Is that a sin? Does the passage say it is a sin?

I read it as Elijah was scared and depressed.

I am not saying this is the interpretation you should take.
I also interpreted the 7,000 were hidden, ie only God knew who they were.

Now I am adding to scripture in EG's mind but he is not by saying Elijah sinned.

The scripture does not say he sinned, it is an interpretation.
I am not saying EG has to take the passage a particular way, I just gave my view
as to why I said God keeps some things secret.

Another example is the disciples wondering about a believer.
Jesus says it is none of your business.

Or Jesus did not know when the end times were coming only the Father did.

So I could quote more about secrets God keeps, but he has many.
In again is my interpretation, but I think from this evidence obvious ones.

It is fascinating that over these minor issue EG wants to create an argument.
Must have bugged him is some way? Lol

 

[PeterJens]

I figured that must be what you meant. But, none of that happens here.

You guys ignore us, and we ignore you. You guys laugh at our beliefs, and we laugh at yours. How is anyone "dominating" anyone else?

EG wanted to correct me. I just gave my view, as if I would listen. I find that mildly amusing.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Interpretation

Now Elijah hid. Is that a sin? Does the passage say it is a sin?

I read it as Elijah was scared and depressed.

I am not saying this is the interpretation you should take.
I also interpreted the 7,000 were hidden, ie only God knew who they were.

Now I am adding to scripture in EG's mind but he is not by saying Elijah sinned.

The scripture does not say he sinned, it is an interpretation.
I am not saying EG has to take the passage a particular way, I just gave my view
as to why I said God keeps some things secret.

Another example is the disciples wondering about a believer.
Jesus says it is none of your business.

Or Jesus did not know when the end times were coming only the Father did.

So I could quote more about secrets God keeps, but he has many.
In again is my interpretation, but I think from this evidence obvious ones.

It is fascinating that over these minor issue EG wants to create an argument.
Must have bugged him is some way? Lol

Lets excuse sin, Thats the problem with legalists.. Sin is not sin, Unless they say it is..

Run from these people. they do not value Gods true moral standard.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

EG wanted to correct me. I just gave my view, as if I would listen. I find that mildly amusing.

no i wanted you to stick to gods word and warn you about assuming things you cant prove, thats what turns many peopel away from wanting to know Gods word. because hie people make things up they can not prove.

 

[Willie-T]

Interpretation

Now Elijah hid. Is that a sin? Does the passage say it is a sin?

I read it as Elijah was scared and depressed.

I am not saying this is the interpretation you should take.
I also interpreted the 7,000 were hidden, ie only God knew who they were.

Now I am adding to scripture in EG's mind but he is not by saying Elijah sinned.

The scripture does not say he sinned, it is an interpretation.
I am not saying EG has to take the passage a particular way, I just gave my view
as to why I said God keeps some things secret.

Another example is the disciples wondering about a believer.
Jesus says it is none of your business.

Or Jesus did not know when the end times were coming only the Father did.

So I could quote more about secrets God keeps, but he has many.
In again is my interpretation, but I think from this evidence obvious ones.

It is fascinating that over these minor issue EG wants to create an argument.
Must have bugged him is some way? Lol

I started to get into this post. So many times, I ALMOST reach to give you a "LIKE", thinking, "This guy DOES manage to get a good thought in every now and them." Then, you go and blow it by seemingly having to twist the knife before you can let it go, and post the thought.

I'm not saying you are alone in this. I do it too. But, are we ALL so focused on having to get our digs in, that we cannot simply post a clean and clear idea, un-cluttered by the desire to "get even?".

 

[PeterJens]

Elijah sinned because he got depressed and fearful.

Did God say do not go here? Did God say you cannot have time off to rest and get it back again?

God sought Elijah out and asked him why he was hiding. God was giving him support, and in effect
saying why did you not come to me and share how you felt?

Personally this is odd legalism. When a child gets upset and hides how is that sin or breaking a
relationship? For me this is just miss-reading emotions and bringing morality into an area where
sin is not present, just exhaustion.

Did God call this sin? No. Elijah did not repent, and God did not tell him off.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Elijah sinned because he got depressed and fearful.

Did God say do not go here? Did God say you cannot have time off to rest and get it back again?

God sought Elijah out and asked him why he was hiding. God was giving him support, and in effect
saying why did you not come to me and share how you felt?

Personally this is odd legalism. When a child gets upset and hides how is that sin or breaking a
relationship? For me this is just miss-reading emotions and bringing morality into an area where
sin is not present, just exhaustion.

Did God call this sin? No. Elijah did not repent, and God did not tell him off.

Elijah sinned because he lacked faith in God. He trusted God to bring lightning from heaven, He trusted God when he had all the baal priests killed. He stopped trusting God when a woman threatened his life, and he ran like a frightened kid. Thats why God questioned him..

But I guess thats not sin.. to lack faith in God.. or maybe your showing us you do not know what true faiht is?? and everyone should be afraid??

Nah, I won't assume that, I would be in sin.

Peter. stop it, Your making yourself look bad..

 

[PeterJens]

But, are we ALL so focused on having to get our digs in, that we cannot simply post a clean and clear idea, un-cluttered by the desire to "get even?".

I am not trying to get even, I am just not understanding. It is like talking to my daughter.
Once one sets up the interaction, the emotional sub-text dictates.

I have to say I just carry this on, because it does not really matter, and it is quite funny.
Do you ever laugh at how things pan out?

 

[PeterJens]

My point about interpretation has been made.
I was corrected about an interpretation, daring to make one,
when the same person applies there own interpretation,
and then says I am looking bad. lol

that is blindness and not self aware but driven by emotion and self belief.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My point about interpretation has been made.
I was corrected about an interpretation, daring to make one,
when the same person applies there own interpretation,
and then says I am looking bad. lol

that is blindness and not self aware but driven by emotion and self belief.

Thats ok, You still have not shown where the bible said 7000 men hid..

So all you have is your opinion.. And a bunch of non christians probably saying, Thats why I do not want anything to do wiht christianity,

As for Elijah and sin.. He lacked faith, THATS SIN.. thats not opinion.

 

[gb9]

no i wanted you to stick to gods word and warn you about assuming things you cant prove, thats what turns many peopel away from wanting to know Gods word. because hie people make things up they can not prove.

but, this is what legalists do e.g. they make the Bible say what they want. using the Bible to make theology instead of using the Word AS theology.