Abstain from ALL appearance of evil

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What if people have different lines?
That is the real question.

Where do I draw the line. Not.....where do we draw the line.

We are not going to stop what this world does and how it thinks. SO we need to figure out what we can handle and what we need to walk away from. And it will not be OUR way for everybody else.

It took me a long time to go into the sports bar and have a few IPA's and watch the game without feeling guilty or wonder who was watching. It was my 5 do's and 5 dont's that hindered a good time.

I even went for a spell where I judged people for doing it............And I secretly really wanted to go. I figured out what I could handle, and now have FUN. Who cares what the self righteous prig(used to be me) thinks.
 

Lady4Him

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Ok I wasn't trying to start a debate, I was just asking and I was also just stating my thoughts on the matter.
 
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Ok I wasn't trying to start a debate, I was just asking and I was also just stating my thoughts on the matter.
Just remember.....we are in the war zone here. There are a lot of people who will say, " You are going straight to hell if I deem this or that as unacceptable for you."

So there are many of us who try to put it in perspective...........right away.

Not saying that is what you are doing though.
 

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People are being de-sence, whatever that word is at a young age today. i'm thankful i still cringe, and close eyes at certain things. A lot of people don't even bat an eye like they are numb to evil. Guard your minds. Never really got into the helly-wood seen.
 

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Disney movies are an easy target. What about the NFL? Fox News?
 
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I just want to know where we draw the line.
"We?" What difference does it really make where I, or any other person, draws a line about anything?

Jesus even turned to a disciple and asked him "What is it to you HOW I deal with this man?" (paraphrased)
 
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In light of the new ‘Beauty and the Beast’ movie, I would like to discuss something else. I’m in no way condoning what is happening in this movie, homosexuality is wrong, no argument there, just wanting to draw our attention to other things as well. Some may consider this a harsh truth, others may agree, while some may disagree, but I feel it needs to be said. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 mentions holding to the things that are good and staying away from evil. Verse 22 says to abstain from ALL things evil, so why are we just focusing on the sin in this movie? Why not the rest in our movie collection? Why we are not bothered by other sinful activities in these movies? Why is the CHRISTIAN population numb to the evil in horror movies? Why do we embrace violence, murder, sexual immorality, and demonic powers, etc. All of these are sin. It says to abstain from ALL appearance of evil, not just what you feel you should stay away from. The psalmist said “I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes” (Psalm 101:3). We live in a wicked world, no avoiding that. Sometimes evil will appear before our eyes but to purposefully partake or to focus on it is another matter. I’m just wondering why we harp on one sin, but embrace others? I do not support this movie by the way and I’m not defending it. I don’t agree with it, it’s wrong what’s happening, but I just don’t understand why that’s the only thing that’s getting the attention when other movies and tv shows Christians tend to watch have the same thing plus more evil activity in them.

I haven't seen the movie. Do to the nature of your thoughts and questions, one doesn't need to have seen the movie.
Good questions.

Sin is sin. True. But what the results of sin are not the same. There is, however, always a loss.

I am a little bit confused by some of the statements in the post. Seems that the post is initially affirming that Christians are only focused and on one sin (homosexuality) in the movie, but then the post reads: Why do we embrace violence, murder, sexual immorality, and demonic powers.

Maybe I am missing understanding.


If not, here goes.
Perhaps one sin - homosexuality - receives the attention has to do with the results. Murder, for the most part (abortion is murder) has a less likely chance of being widely accepted under the humanistic standard of the world. That standard is humanistic, modernism, etc. "As long as it (an act) doesn't hurt someone, it's okay. Though homosexuality is against God's plan and will for us and ought to be repugnant to all, it can be, and is, packaged is such a way that it becomes acceptable. Aside from abortion, murder can not be prettied up. Thank God.

We know the results of murder. And there is a law against murder. But what becomes of a society that accepts homosexuality, same-sex marriages?

I read Romans 1. Topping the list of specific sins is sexual immorality. Did Paul list that first in order to demonstrate that it's a quick and sure drop down from there once sexual immorality becomes a norm.

(Christians DO NOT HATE homosexuals. Christians LOVE all people.)
 
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PennEd

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I think there is a difference in movies that depict violence as a wrong, and movies that portray violence as good. Homosexuality is almost always shown as good and wholesome, or at least ok. That is the distinction.
 
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I just want to know where we draw the line.
I draw the line at what I can stomach or even what I like. I find horror movies annoying, because they're too predictable. I don't like slasher movies. I like dystopian to a point, but I'm tired of all the "God is evil" things stuck in them. In reality, my taste in movies lean towards kid's stories (HP, Minions, Ice Age, and, of course, Toy Story. lol)

If what I read or watch causes me to start thinking "conspiracy theory" in any aspects, (and when I was first married, I watched soaps up until the moment I started thinking hubby was cheating on me, even when he came home directly after work, and spent the weekend with me, so I mean anything that hints at "conspiracy," not the obvious ones only), and I start getting internally angry over nothing in particular, it's time to stop watching it.

How far do I take this? I rarely watch the news!

If it causes problems in you, stop it. If it doesn't, don't worry about it.
 

Lady4Him

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When I asked, "Where do we draw the line?" I wasn't really trying to put us all in the same category. I understand that we all have our own personal convictions, but there are things that are things that we are told to abstain from. That is all that I was saying.
 

Lady4Him

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Well, I think I'm just going to refrain from posting anymore on the matter. I don't want to cause any confusion. I could have done a better job wording what I was thinking and for that I do apologize. I know where I stand on the issue. Where you all stand is between you and the Lord. You all are still my brothers and sisters in Christ, whether we agree or disagree on it. I guess that's what makes us all unique. LOL Anyway God bless :)
 
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I do not really care for horror movies...

the darkness does seem to be increasing in the entertainment industry.
Blazing Saddles is one of the funniest movies of all time because it makes fun of our human ignorance and shortfalls, yet the uncut movie will never be shown again nor will there ever be a remake with the same raw value because of political correctness, aka, mind control, yet Hollywood is okay with the godlessness of their choosing.
 
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Well, I think I'm just going to refrain from posting anymore on the matter. I don't want to cause any confusion. I could have done a better job wording what I was thinking and for that I do apologize. I know where I stand on the issue. Where you all stand is between you and the Lord. You all are still my brothers and sisters in Christ, whether we agree or disagree on it. I guess that's what makes us all unique. LOL Anyway God bless :)
I like what you wrote in your OP. The only reason I brought up being a little bit confused, was to show I may have misunderstood something. I did not mean to draw specific attention to that point. But I can see how it seems that way. What I write, and what I think are two different things at times.
And so we call can say: I could have done a better job wording what I was thinking.

Good thoughts and points and questions in your OP.


 

Lady4Him

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I like what you wrote in your OP. The only reason I brought up being a little bit confused, was to show I may have misunderstood something. I did not mean to draw specific attention to that point. But I can see how it seems that way. What I write, and what I think are two different things at times.
And so we call can say: I could have done a better job wording what I was thinking.

Good thoughts and points and questions in your OP.


It's nothing against what you said. I didn't intend for this to be confusing or to cause a stir or anything like that, seems to be the direction it's going from what I've read. God bless :)
 

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It's nothing against what you said. I didn't intend for this to be confusing or to cause a stir or anything like that, seems to be the direction it's going from what I've read. God bless :)
There is merit to what you're saying.

Philippians 4:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
 
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When I want a reality check, I think of the world, and I think of the mainly worldly but good hearted people out there who might think religion is a load of tosh, but 'not like' a devout atheist however. I find it hard to believe that all the children who happened to watch Beauty and the Beast are now destined for hell, destined to promoted homosexuality. Or that those who watch scary movies, are now destined for hell, or destined to promote dark agendas. That's a pretty morbid, and downright unloving view. That is the thing about religion and what I see it do to some people, suddenly everything has to be polarised into black and white. While things 'out there' and 'outside of our mind' can tempt us, isn't it our perception and personal views which become the temptation, and become the point of sinning? If more than see the 'good' in a movie, a person is locked into observing the 'bad', well isn't that kind of sinning in a sense?

If you are walking down the street and someone is dressed somewhat provocatively, doesn't this kind of polarised thinking make one see the 'provocative' attire, and not the person underneath? As in, before you even know that person, you have already judged them for the outside?

Out of this equation of calculative thinking based on duality (this is good that is bad), which as I have observed leads to a somewhat irrational, 'superior' thinking, isn't the more important thing in all of this, love?

It's pretty obvious in the world that 'bringing up the negatives' actually makes good advertising for it. While trying to keep people from evil, rather it is promoted. Disney probably thanks a lot of people for doing the opposite of what they thought they would do. All they had to say was 'exclusive gay scene' and the temptation was set for those type of polarised thinkers who think mostly about staying away from sin, rather than love. And that is true.

What I am saying anyway, if I get to the point about love being most important is; If we focus on the good things, if we focus on love, if we focus on teaching love to those around us, and our children, then maybe they won't even be interested in such things. And if they watch a movie that happens to have such things that are questionable, they will NOT be lured into thinking any ungodly thought about it (which is then being lured into temptation). So rather than use fear, analysis, or judgement (these are all mind/self induced perspectives) against 'the bad things', focus on the opposite and on the good things. To me, I see many Christians make this mistake when they get too deeply into the analyse of 'being a good Christian'. All the humble kind people I've known in my life, were not always Christian - they just were. I'm not going to tell myself, ever, to reject people just because they aren't Christian, or to reject a movie because it wasn't made in a Christian manner - it still took a lot of people just like me and you, living their life, doing their job, a cleaner, a voice actor, an artist, an animator, a musician to make these movies. I love Christian movies, and if I'm honest I have seen a much bigger influence of Christianity on movies and music these days and that's a good thing.

And taking Beauty and the Beast here for example of perspective, I've not seen one person mention the fact that Emma Watson's feminist agenda in the movie was to desexualise and empower women. So to me, I want to see the movie sometime to see what a) the good points of this are and whether they are true, and b) since people have blown the whole gay thing out of proportion without having seen the movie, I want to see whether that is as bad as what people say without having ever seen the movie, but having easily been taken in by what people have written or said in media or online. Maybe if Emma Watson's agenda was good, well evil often wants to take the focus off that and put it on something else, right? And who better to lure into that change of focus, but those who focus on the evils of the world so much? I believe those who focus on love more than they focus on evil, are the people who change the world. Those who focus on evil, well, the Muslims aren't they the ones who live by those rules day to day in the middle east? Expression of love can be very much illegal in many parts. Is that the world you want, one of absolute suppression? This is what happens when you take Jesus out of the equation.

Push one enemy away (so to speak), and another enemy will always take their place. Convert an enemy using love (and all love comes from God) and you have one less enemy in everyone's world.
 
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Paul said he wouldn't eat meat again if it offended a weaker brother.

Abstaining from all kinds of evil, especially the kind that offends others.

Didn't Jesus teach us by example that it's all about others, & not us?
 
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Paul said he wouldn't eat meat again if it offended a weaker brother.

Abstaining from all kinds of evil, especially the kind that offends others.

Didn't Jesus teach us by example that it's all about others, & not us?
Thats why I think we should light up a cig and grab a beer and walk by most churches on sunday morning.

Show them that they are self righteous prigs. And bring them out of the bondage that they have placed themselves under.
 

posthuman

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I guess that's what makes us all unique. LOL Anyway God bless :)

there's a reason that we are all unique, together with the reason that in Him we are all one.
in Him, we are all for each other, and all are for us - you are never alone; He was alone for you, so that you should not be separated from the Father any longer :)

we should live as knowing this, loving each other, because of the love He loves us with