ACTS 17:16-34

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It seems to me that Paul would be dismissed as a liberal theologian today for walking up to a group of nonChristians and pointing out that the God they were worshiping was actually the same God Christians worship.

So do Muslims worship the same God of the Universe that Christians worship? Do LDS worship the same Jesus? It appears that their depictions of Allah and Jesus have more in common with our God than the Unknown God, Paul identified as the God of the Universe in Athens.
 
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greatkraw

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allah is the old moon god of the babylonian pantheon - he is one of satans lieurenants
 
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greatkraw

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Seeing the forest for the trees, once again.......

no; they are not worshipping the same god I do

and my statement is incontrovertible historical fact

an interesting thing about the old moon god

it was moody and unpredictable because the moon keeps changing its phases
 
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MarineforGod

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It seems to me that Paul would be dismissed as a liberal theologian today for walking up to a group of nonChristians and pointing out that the God they were worshiping was actually the same God Christians worship.

So do Muslims worship the same God of the Universe that Christians worship? Do LDS worship the same Jesus? It appears that their depictions of Allah and Jesus have more in common with our God than the Unknown God, Paul identified as the God of the Universe in Athens.
I think at one point we all did, but throughout the years, false teachers warped the word of God. Because when you look at the other faiths it all comes down to the same principle. Love. A chapter backs me up on my opinion, Genesis 11.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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The Athenians in no way believed that Paul had just told them that they were worshiping the same God, but though instead that he was proposing a new god. "Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all everywhere should repent..."
 
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charisenexcelcis

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It seems to me that Paul would be dismissed as a liberal theologian today for walking up to a group of nonChristians and pointing out that the God they were worshiping was actually the same God Christians worship.

So do Muslims worship the same God of the Universe that Christians worship? Do LDS worship the same Jesus? It appears that their depictions of Allah and Jesus have more in common with our God than the Unknown God, Paul identified as the God of the Universe in Athens.
I think that you know little of the god of the Moslems.
 
Jan 8, 2009
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The difference between moslem and muslim is, Iranians say moslem because they can't pronounce the u sound, arabs say muslim.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Because beyond the concept of One God and the idea of a written revelation there is little we share. The pillars of Islam:
1. The confession that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. The Christian know that Jesus is God.
2. Daily prayers in Arabic (the only prayers he hears) while facing Mecca. When Jesus was asked by the Samaritan woman where one should worship, in Jerusalem or on their mountain, He replied that those who would worship God, should do so in spirit and in truth. There is no "locus" of God's presence.
3. Giving of benevolences--often directed toward radical foundations which finance acts of violence. Jesus said to turn the other cheek.
4. The Ramadan fasting. Jesus said that when we fast we should not draw attention to ourselves, but to do so in privacy before God. (see also #2)
5. The Hadj--a weeklong pilgrimage to Mecca, filled with rituals. Christianity teaches a salvation not by works, but by faith. Even the ritualistic denominations believe that rituals done without faith are to no avail. Also, again no "locus" of God's presence.
6. The Jihad--a struggle against evil. Christianity teaches not reformation of one's life, but transformation.
Overall, Islam is an amoral system of regulations with no relationship with God, and no assurance of eternal life.
 
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MarineforGod

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Because beyond the concept of One God and the idea of a written revelation there is little we share. The pillars of Islam:
1. The confession that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. The Christian know that Jesus is God.
2. Daily prayers in Arabic (the only prayers he hears) while facing Mecca. When Jesus was asked by the Samaritan woman where one should worship, in Jerusalem or on their mountain, He replied that those who would worship God, should do so in spirit and in truth. There is no "locus" of God's presence.
3. Giving of benevolences--often directed toward radical foundations which finance acts of violence. Jesus said to turn the other cheek.
4. The Ramadan fasting. Jesus said that when we fast we should not draw attention to ourselves, but to do so in privacy before God. (see also #2)
5. The Hadj--a weeklong pilgrimage to Mecca, filled with rituals. Christianity teaches a salvation not by works, but by faith. Even the ritualistic denominations believe that rituals done without faith are to no avail. Also, again no "locus" of God's presence.
6. The Jihad--a struggle against evil. Christianity teaches not reformation of one's life, but transformation.
Overall, Islam is an amoral system of regulations with no relationship with God, and no assurance of eternal life.
Nicely put.
 
Jan 8, 2009
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It seems to me that Paul would be dismissed as a liberal theologian today for walking up to a group of nonChristians and pointing out that the God they were worshiping was actually the same God Christians worship.
Paul never did that.
 

superdave5221

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It seems to me that Paul would be dismissed as a liberal theologian today for walking up to a group of nonChristians and pointing out that the God they were worshiping was actually the same God Christians worship.

So do Muslims worship the same God of the Universe that Christians worship? Do LDS worship the same Jesus? It appears that their depictions of Allah and Jesus have more in common with our God than the Unknown God, Paul identified as the God of the Universe in Athens.
Paul speaks of a yearning that the Athenians have for worshiping. A yearning that they have tried to express in their idols and temples, but is imperfect because they do not have the necessary knowledge of God. He knows that the Athenians have realized that the gods that they worship are lacking in power. They have realized that a true God exists, but they don't know Him. And so they create the idol to the "unknown god", to represent the REAL God!! Until they find Him, they are worshiping that which they don't know. Paul is saying, I know the God in which you are seeking. Let me tell you about Him, so that He will not be unknown. He then goes on to let them know that God cannot be contained in temples, or represented by idols.
 
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Yeah Paul had to correct their understanding of God in general, by saying that God doesn't live in temples etc etc. He most certainly didn't say "hey guys, you are already worshipping the right God, now I'll tell you about Jesus".
 
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glenwood74

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I think Paul was offering a compliment to the Athenians for their open mindedness in their pagan religiosity. You catch more flies with honey, as it were, and people want respect from their peers when having constructive debate; a trait that some on this forum could definitely learn from.

Another great post Aspen.