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memyselfi

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As though the Scripture have not always been relevant, they have, they are, They are alive sharper than a two-edge sward. It has been on the news about a group of professing witches casting a spell on Supreme Court Judge Kavanaugh. AND IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO PEOPLE!!!

It made me think how relevant the Scriptures - Torah are even for today. I'm not talking about the Salem witch trials, but professing witches, openly casting spells.

Now I assume, out of ignorance probably, that most Christians are against professing witchcraft. But I hear many of Christians who go to psychics and keep going because what they say is "true". Of course they are right their power is DEMONIC!!!

So the question is with the Demonic now acceptable to people, this is not the times of Salem witch trials, what do we do as the Church? … Is it OK, since the "Church" believes Tora is dead?
 

p_rehbein

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God abhors the practice of witchcraft right? So, I have no problem doing the same. And believer who dabbles in such stuff really needs to reassess their relationship with God in my opinion. And that includes psychics, horoscopes, or any other such practices.

They ARE NOT of God in my opinion, and that makes them 100% NOT OK for believers........again, in my opinion.
 

memyselfi

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God abhors the practice of witchcraft right? So, I have no problem doing the same. And believer who dabbles in such stuff really needs to reassess their relationship with God in my opinion. And that includes psychics, horoscopes, or any other such practices.

They ARE NOT of God in my opinion, and that makes them 100% NOT OK for believers........again, in my opinion.

You brought up such a great point.... Are people "Christians" that dabble... "And that includes psychics, horoscopes, or any other such practices." even saved?
 

Blain

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Sadly many people who are Christians do indeed go to such people for answers and practice things like this because they are searching for answers that they probably didn't find in God but the thing is he speaks the answers we seek just have to know how to listen. Many believers don't know how to hear his voice and so they seek answers where they shouldn't. As far as if such people are really Christians that depends really, there is in fact a different between a Christian by title and a Christian by heart but there is also Christians who simply are confused or have strayed
 

memyselfi

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As far as if such people are really Christians that depends really, there is in fact a different between a Christian by title and a Christian by heart but there is also Christians who simply are confused or have strayed
So this goes back to only G-d can judge who is saved? What keeps people "Christians" from knowing G-d and needing to search for more?
 

Blain

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So this goes back to only G-d can judge who is saved? What keeps people "Christians" from knowing G-d and needing to search for more?
No. Like I said there is a difference between a Christian by title and a Christian by heart but there is also a defined lined between the two and one with discernment can usually see it however there are times when we need to see a fellow believer struggling to walk the path rather than a saved or unsaved person
 

p_rehbein

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So this goes back to only G-d can judge who is saved? What keeps people "Christians" from knowing G-d and needing to search for more?
Yes......and no.....

Only God truly knows the hearts of man, but Christ did tell us this:

Matthew 7:15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

So, we do have a way to know if a person is living a Christ like life, and that SHOULD tell us the condition of their hearts, right?

Now, believers can stray, dabble into things they should not, but, in my opinion, that puts them in dangerous standing with God Himself. Dabbling can lead to one immersing themselves into this kind of thing, and then what? Are they still saved?
 

rlm68

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As though the Scripture have not always been relevant, they have, they are, They are alive sharper than a two-edge sward. It has been on the news about a group of professing witches casting a spell on Supreme Court Judge Kavanaugh. AND IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO PEOPLE!!!

It made me think how relevant the Scriptures - Torah are even for today. I'm not talking about the Salem witch trials, but professing witches, openly casting spells.

Now I assume, out of ignorance probably, that most Christians are against professing witchcraft. But I hear many of Christians who go to psychics and keep going because what they say is "true". Of course they are right their power is DEMONIC!!!

So the question is with the Demonic now acceptable to people, this is not the times of Salem witch trials, what do we do as the Church? … Is it OK, since the "Church" believes Tora is dead?



I agree with your general assessment, and I kick it up a notch.

The signs are everywhere prepping us for us to be like the 5 wise young virgins with our lamps full of oil. Witchcraft is acceptable to more people than those who oppose it. I totally agree the church is running full circle chasing its tail and has no clue to even know what God wants from us in this hour. And the USA is now officially in bed with the Muslims who are enemy to Israel. This current president believes America is an assembly line pushing out cars and denying cold blood murder to keep a 500 billion defense contract. The presidents comments: The prince denies this and was firm about not killing the reporter and I believe him because you know Boeing and Lockheed Martin want these jobs. this was about the reporter: He's not really American, or a citizen.


I believe God wanted Trump, and now Trump is delivering us on the doorsteps to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT - ONE WORLD ECONOMY - ONE WORLD BANKING... Trump is already setting us up as a business and if live or die it's about the business spectrum.

We are closer to the end than we know it.

And those churches you question better wake up!!
 

memyselfi

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I agree with your general assessment, and I kick it up a notch.

The signs are everywhere prepping us for us to be like the 5 wise young virgins with our lamps full of oil. Witchcraft is acceptable to more people than those who oppose it. I totally agree the church is running full circle chasing its tail and has no clue to even know what God wants from us in this hour. And the USA is now officially in bed with the Muslims who are enemy to Israel. This current president believes America is an assembly line pushing out cars and denying cold blood murder to keep a 500 billion defense contract. The presidents comments: The prince denies this and was firm about not killing the reporter and I believe him because you know Boeing and Lockheed Martin want these jobs. this was about the reporter: He's not really American, or a citizen.


I believe God wanted Trump, and now Trump is delivering us on the doorsteps to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT - ONE WORLD ECONOMY - ONE WORLD BANKING... Trump is already setting us up as a business and if live or die it's about the business spectrum.

We are closer to the end than we know it.

And those churches you question better wake up!!
You said a lot of great things! Truly.... that I agree with. In fact I was going to give you that little winner thingy until I kept reading... Let me ask you this how much protest have you given Obama for his $115 Billion he offered Saudi Arabia in military weapons and other military equipment? "Saudi Araba" has never not been murders, this reporter just happen to make the news.

Is your ignition equal or just against Trump?
 

Nehemiah6

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Is it OK, since the "Church" believes Tora is dead?
The Church does not believe that Torah is dead. Just that the Old Covenant is now null and void because the New Covenant is in force. And under both covenants, witchcraft, sorcery, and the occult are unacceptable. So where did you get these strange ideas?

What we are now seeing is the true Satanic nature of Progressivism, Left-Liberalism, and Socialism. People can finally see that the witches and wizards hate both Conservatism and Christianity.
 

memyselfi

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The Church does not believe that Torah is dead. Just that the Old Covenant is now null and void because the New Covenant is in force. And under both covenants, witchcraft, sorcery, and the occult are unacceptable. So where did you get these strange ideas?

What we are now seeing is the true Satanic nature of Progressivism, Left-Liberalism, and Socialism. People can finally see that the witches and wizards hate both Conservatism and Christianity.

If I think you are null and void... Is everything else you just said "dead" to me? It is all null and void.....
 

Nehemiah6

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If I think you are null and void... Is everything else you just said "dead" to me? It is all null and void.....
Stick to the subject. The Old Covenant is null and void. And witchcraft is unacceptable under the New Covenant.
 

memyselfi

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Stick to the subject. The Old Covenant is null and void. And witchcraft is unacceptable under the New Covenant.

You said my strange ideas.... the Torah is believed to be dead by the Church and in fact you told me the church only thinks it's null and void.... nether mind all 3 are synonymy's.

It is demonic to put people down lets not do that...

So stick to the topic what do you think of the acceptance of witchcraft by the church?
 

p_rehbein

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memyself........apparently, whoever you are talking to is on my Ignore List because all I see are your comments.........and it is either so funny I can't stand it, or so confusing because who in the world?

Anyhoo........... :)

No, I don't really want to know.........it would take the fun out of reading your comments as they stand alone.........

:)
 

memyselfi

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memyself........apparently, whoever you are talking to is on my Ignore List because all I see are your comments.........and it is either so funny I can't stand it, or so confusing because who in the world?

Anyhoo........... :)

No, I don't really want to know.........it would take the fun out of reading your comments as they stand alone.........

:)

I will be your stand alone idiot... As long as I am an apologist for G-d / Righteousness… If I am just an idiot that would suck... But either way I'm not too shallow, I'll take all compliments… even sarcasm….lol...even from people that "really don't know" if they want to compliments me or not...lol... BIG HUG!!!
 

rlm68

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You said a lot of great things! Truly.... that I agree with. In fact I was going to give you that little winner thingy until I kept reading... Let me ask you this how much protest have you given Obama for his $115 Billion he offered Saudi Arabia in military weapons and other military equipment? "Saudi Araba" has never not been murders, this reporter just happen to make the news.

Is your ignition equal or just against Trump?



As a voter of TRUMP, and a advent opponent to the Clinton regime, I know all about Obama, how Clinton handled the fiasco that killed Stevens, and this last minute uranium deal with Iran...

I am just stating that Trump is dancing around on topics claiming whatever the other people state. He unknowingly is setting up the kingdoms (Revelation's Beast 10 horns = past and present nations who had most control and say). We are friends to those we have never been allies with. It's amazing to see how God is bringing this all together by Trump's business goals. Greed is obeying the hand of Yahweh!!
 

memyselfi

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So
As a voter of TRUMP, and a advent opponent to the Clinton regime, I know all about Obama, how Clinton handled the fiasco that killed Stevens, and this last minute uranium deal with Iran...

I am just stating that Trump is dancing around on topics claiming whatever the other people state. He unknowingly is setting up the kingdoms (Revelation's Beast 10 horns = past and present nations who had most control and say). We are friends to those we have never been allies with. It's amazing to see how God is bringing this all together by Trump's business goals. Greed is obeying the hand of Yahweh!!
Who have we not been allies with before now? Who are the nations not mentioned in the Bible "(Revelation's Beast 10 horns = past and present nations who had most control and say). "?
 

rlm68

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So


Who have we not been allies with before now? Who are the nations not mentioned in the Bible "(Revelation's Beast 10 horns = past and present nations who had most control and say). "?



There's been rumors for years concerning the rebuilding of the Temple. It's been thought that a wall would be placed between the Temple and the Dome. I see Trump negotiating that, unless Israel just chooses to bomb it when their red heifer after 90 days remains true to form. But Trump, who has no political skills, is leading us where we want to be!!

Many Muslim (today Muslim) nations mentioned within the Bible, (including the names of Abraham's sons with his wife after he buried Sarah), were great nations of power we read about in the Books of Samuel, kings, and chronicles. These get represented as part of the Beast. And look at how Saudi has modernized??? He could be someone to pay attention to, definitely...their prince.
 

Demi777

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As though the Scripture have not always been relevant, they have, they are, They are alive sharper than a two-edge sward. It has been on the news about a group of professing witches casting a spell on Supreme Court Judge Kavanaugh. AND IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO PEOPLE!!!

It made me think how relevant the Scriptures - Torah are even for today. I'm not talking about the Salem witch trials, but professing witches, openly casting spells.

Now I assume, out of ignorance probably, that most Christians are against professing witchcraft. But I hear many of Christians who go to psychics and keep going because what they say is "true". Of course they are right their power is DEMONIC!!!

So the question is with the Demonic now acceptable to people, this is not the times of Salem witch trials, what do we do as the Church? … Is it OK, since the "Church" believes Tora is dead?
That wonky stuff these wanna be witches are doing is a joke.
Dont even give emme attention. Its stunt nonsense
 

Nehemiah6

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So stick to the topic what do you think of the acceptance of witchcraft by the church?
Already answered TWICE. Witchcraft is unacceptable under the New Covenant.

So you should now move on.