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אֲנִי וְהָאָב אֶחָד
"I and the Father are One" - Jesus



Recently I warned that certain "Messianic" teachers will attempt to seduce you into thinking that "following the law of Moses" is the best way to express your faith in Jesus... Beware, chaverim. These false teachers imply that the cross of Messiah (צְלַב הַמָּשִׁיחַ) is not enough. "True," they hiss, "we are 'saved' by grace -- but the rest is up to us..." In other words, Jesus lived and died to renew the covenant of Moses, and therefore we must return to Sinai. Our focus should be on Moses and the law.

Because of this, it's not surprising to see why so many of these "Torah observant" teachers struggle with the idea that Jesus is none other than YHVH come "in the flesh." Though they might accept the idea that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, they appear to have trouble with the idea that "God has a Son" and therefore struggle with the idea of the "Trinity" (השׁלושׁ הקּדושׁ) -- or the Triune nature of the Godhead.

The idea of the "Trinity," however, is clearly implied in the Scriptures. From the first letter of Torah (i.e., the Bet) through the last letter of the New Testament (i.e., the Nun in the word "Amen") -- the letters of which spell the word בּן ("Son") -- we see God as defined as One yet expressing Himself in different Persons. God the Son is "First and Last" (Isa. 48:12, 44:6, Rev. 1:17, 2:8; 22:13):



Indeed, the very beginning of the Torah (Gen. 1:1-2) speaks about the creative activity of Elohim (God) and the presence of Ruach Elohim (the Spirit of God) as narrated by an omniscient Voice or Word of God. Obviously the Spirit of God is God Himself (who else?) just as the Word of God is likewise God Himself, and therefore the Scriptures begin with the idea that God represents Multiplicity within Unity. The word for God (אֱלהִים) is plural in form, uses plural pronouns: "Let us make man in our image" (Gen. 1:26), and often is the subject of singular verbs.

In the Shema we read, "Shema Yisrael (Hear, O Israel): Adonai Eloheinu (the Lord our Gods), Adonai Echad (the Lord is one)." Interestingly, the word echad in Hebrew can imply a unity in diversity (the word for one and only one, i.e., unique, is more often rendered as yachid). For example, in Exodus 26:6 the parts of the Tabernacle (mishkan) are to be constructed so that "it shall be one (echad) tabernacle," and Ezekiel spoke of two "sticks" (representing fragmented Israel) as being reunited into one: "and they shall be one (echad) stick in My hand" (Ezek. 37:19).



Moses also uses the word echad in Genesis 2:24 when he says: "And they (husband and wife) will become one flesh (basar echad)."

The idea of the triunity of God does not impugn the Oneness of God, but it transcends rabbinical Judaism and Islam's idea of "absolute monism" by understanding oneness in reference to an eternality of intrapersonal community. In other words, Ultimate Reality is multidimensional, personal and loving, and that is part of the very essence of God. There is no such thing as a "Person" - either human or Divine - that exists in an absolute vacuum, outside of relationship. Aristotle's "Unmoved Mover" is a solipsistic illusion and logical absurdity....

As for the deity of Jesus, Paul quoted Isaiah 45:23: "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" and applied it directly to Jesus: "Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus the Messiah is Lord (YHVH), to the glory of God the Father" (Phil. 2:9-11; see also Rom. 14:11). The Apostle John also identifies Jesus with YHVH, the "First and the Last" of whom there is no other god (Isa. 44:6; Rev. 22:13, etc.). The very idea that Jesus is Melekh ha-Mashiach, the King of Israel, implies that He is none other than God, since only YHVH is the true King of Israel (Isa. 44:6).



The Triunity is Jewish in origin... It does not derive from pagan ideas of "tri-theism" (Osirus-Isis-Horus) nor does it imply the worship of "three gods" (as has been slanderously charged by various adherents of Judaism and Islam). It predates the ideas of Gnostic modalism (2nd century AD), the Kabbalah's doctrine of the sefirot as emanation from a triadic First Principle of the universe (14th century AD), and the Hindu modalism of "Trimurti" (4th century AD). The doctrine that there is only One God that is multidimensional (One what, Three who's) exceeds the power of analogy, though we understand ourselves in three temporal modes (past-present-future) located in three spatial dimensions... Our bodies are also triune - body, soul, and spirit, and the world around us as a triunity of space, time, and matter.

Yeshua Ha-Mashiach (Jesus Christ) is YHVH "come in the flesh" (1 Jn. 4:2-3). Indeed, to say "Jesus Christ is Lord" (Phil 2:11; Rom. 10:9) is to confess Him as Adonai -- or YHVH -- Himself . As Jesus Himself said, "Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him" (John 5:22-23).



"Who has ascended to heaven and come down? What is his name, and what is his son's name? Surely you know! / מַה־שְּׁמוֹ וּמַה־שֶּׁם־בְּנוֹ כִּי תֵדָע (Prov. 30:4).
Shalom, chaverim.

The Trinity



Multiplicity in Oneness...



by John J. Parsons



Hope you enjoyed! Shalom Chaverim! (Peace friends!)

May Yeshua bless you and keep you.
 
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I am not trying to force anyone to believe anything, just planting seeds (hopefully). I know that I cannot reveal anything to anyone. Only God can reveal these deep truths. And anything else for that matter. Well Just as Jesus said to Peter.

Matthew 16:17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

You just have to seek God and want to know these deep truths! If you are confident in your beliefs you have no shame in saying "Father in Yeshua's name guide me into all truth like you say you will in your Word". Oh okay well that's all..

Until next time :)!
Shalom.
 
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good job Eric. :D
 
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These are normally very easy to debunk.

Firstly, though, having read exactly 2 paragraphs, thus far, I want to point out a few things, before I write a more complex answer.

1) You shouldn't quote texts of that length without citing your source. It can spell legal trouble not only for you, but mainly for the people hosting the article without permission. ()i.e. christianchat.com). Yeah, I would think it's less likely to result in a civil case, when it's one believer to another, but stranger things have happened, and why take the chance ?

2) This comes from Hebrew4christians.com. Clearly not exactly a Jewish source. Now that doesn't make it right or wrong, I just want people to realize as they read this clearly confrontative article, and come across things like "they hiss..." or "best way to express your faith..." that these are not our Messianic brethren, with whom we typically have a mutual respect, regardless of theological differences.

It is, instead, coming from Christians, who just LOVE to see a guy with a beard, jewlocks, and a skullcap coming into their church.... until they find out we don't believe as they do, and then we just might be the devil incarnate. lol

The complete source for the article is http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunity/triunity.html
 
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These are normally very easy to debunk.

Firstly, though, having read exactly 2 paragraphs, thus far, I want to point out a few things, before I write a more complex answer.

1) You shouldn't quote texts of that length without citing your source. It can spell legal trouble not only for you, but mainly for the people hosting the article without permission. ()i.e. christianchat.com). Yeah, I would think it's less likely to result in a civil case, when it's one believer to another, but stranger things have happened, and why take the chance ?
2) This comes from Hebrew4christians.com. Clearly not exactly a Jewish source. Now that doesn't make it right or wrong, I just want people to realize as they read this clearly confrontative article, and come across things like "they hiss..." or "best way to express your faith..." that these are not our Messianic brethren, with whom we typically have a mutual respect, regardless of theological differences.

It is, instead, coming from Christians, who just LOVE to see a guy with a beard, jewlocks, and a skullcap coming into their church.... until they find out we don't believe as they do, and then we just might be the devil incarnate. lol
not making sense and not responding to the article.

The complete source for the article is http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunity/triunity.html
Actually read the whole thing before you read two paragraphs then comment on "quoting without citing your sources".
 
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If you click his name that will actually bring you to the website. But thank you for your concerns anyway :)
 
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2) This comes from Hebrew4christians.com. Clearly not exactly a Jewish source. Now that doesn't make it right or wrong, I just want people to realize as they read this clearly confrontative article, and come across things like "they hiss..." or "best way to express your faith..." that these are not our Messianic brethren, with whom we typically have a mutual respect, regardless of theological differences.
As far as that statement goes John Parsons is actually a Messianic Jew so I don't know where you get your sources from. I don't know who your "brethern" are because all of the Messianic Jews I've met believe Jesus is God and believe that Paul is an inspired writer. It is a very Jewish source, once again I have no idea where you get any of your information from.
 
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Falsehoods and misleading statements in the article-

-that certain "Messianic" teachers will attempt to seduce you

REALLY? "seduce" ?? We "SEDUCE" people into following G-d's Word? You couldn't find a more biased article ?

-"following the law of Moses" is the best way to express your faith in Jesus...


No, we say that the best way to follow G-d, is to do what G-d asks His people to do. It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. Even the demons believe. WE believe AND obey, that's what sets us apart.

-"These false teachers imply that the cross of Messiah is not enough."

I have never seen that. It doesn't enter into the equation for a Messianic or Hebraic thinker. The two concepts only relate because the average Christian only follows G-d as far as it relates to their OWN well being, of getting into heaven. Some of us are willing to follow G-d, regardless of whether a reward awaits us for so doing, because we know what He wants is best; for us, and for the world. That's why He's G-d.

-""True," they hiss, "we are 'saved' by grace -- but the rest is up to us..." In other words, Jesus lived and died to renew the covenant of Moses, and therefore we must return to Sinai. Our focus should be on Moses and the law."


"THEY HISS?!" REALLY?! And what's this "the rest" ? "The rest" of WHAT exactly? Again, these are thoughts I have NEVER heard expressed from a Messianic. This is what we debaters call a "strawman" argument. You build up a strawman by mis-stating what your opponent actually believes or says. And that way, instead of actually countering your opponents' points, all you have to do is knock this strawman argument, that nobody really believed in the first place.

-Because of this, it's not surprising to see why so many of these "Torah observant" teachers struggle with the idea that Jesus is none other than Hashem come "in the flesh."

First off, what we DON'T struggle with is lightly using the Name of G-d. Now Christians CLAIM to believe the ten commandments are still valid, so why this guy is throwing The Name around needlessly is beyond me. I have substituted Hashem, which means "The Name." Second, we "struggle" with what is not in the Bible. What IS in the Bible is that Messiah was the WORD of G-d, made flesh (John 1).

-Though they might accept the idea that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, they appear to have trouble with the idea that "God has a Son" and therefore struggle with the idea of the "Trinity"

Once more, a strawman argument. See, what the author has done HERE, is take a MUSLIM belief (that G-d has no son), and is attempting to use it against Messianics. No Hebraic thinker, Messianic or otherwise, has trouble with the idea of G-d having a Son. The Bible says it, in Exo 4:22.

I've stated just as clearly as I can my problems with the trinity. In a nutshell, You will never need to use non-biblical terminology to descrive a biblical concept.

-From the first letter of Torah (i.e., the Bet) through the last letter of the New Testament (i.e., the Nun in the word "Amen") -- the letters of which spell the word ("Son")

You guys want to know what I find ironic about this? In Jewish or Christian circles alike, they like to make fun of Kabbalah. And sure, it's easy in this day and age, when a corrupted "pop culture" version, barely recognizable to true students, sweeps across Hollywood. But many Jews tend to see it as silly superstition, and Christians far worse, tend to view it as divination, or sorcery..

But when the "hidden" messages say what they want them to say, apparently Gematria is okay.

It's obviously a load of garbage. There are only 22 letters, and since Hebrew words come from root syllables, instead of borrowing from other languages, as we do in English, almost any 2 letters will spell out SOMEthing. If it wasn't the first and last letters of the Bible, it could have been the OT, or just Genesis... they'd find a way to make something work out of it... but come on. This is just silly.

-"Elohim"

We've covered this already. It APPEARS plural, but it takes a singular verb. It takes a singular verb in Gen 1:1

B'resheet bara Elohim et Ha'shamayim, ve'et ha'aretz

So why doesn't this particular argument die right there? Because ultimately, people believe what they WANT to believe, and why let reality get in the way of a good story?

-"echad"

Likewise, this is just another old argument, that serious Hebrew scholars have long since debunked, and still won't die, just because it SEEMS to lead to the conclusion people have already committed to. You have to understand, these Christians learning Hebrew, and trying to find Hebrew proofs for trinitarianism... They are NOT open minded searchers, LOOKING for the truth, as I was when I learned Hebrew (in order to cut through all the drama of different translations, and different denominations).

Rather, these "scholars" have ALREADY come to their conclusions before they knew the aleph-bet, and now they simply look for "evidence" to fit their predetermined conclusions. Hardly the scientific method I'd say.

Anywhere you find "echad" you will find the clear and simple noion of "one." There is NO compound unity, there is NO "unity within diversity" or anything like that. It's not an abstract form of the number, as we might say "One" vs "first" vs "primary" or anything....

Echad translates plain and simple as the number ONE. That's all there is to it.

-Aristotle

What? I thought we're talking about the Bible? What do ancient child molesters have to do with anything?

And again, you will NEVER need to look beyond the Bible to explain a Biblical concept. You can all see for yourselves, how the author is dancing around philosophy and everything else to try to prove his point, which was originally SUPPOSED to be that it came from the Bible. If he's digging THAT hard elsewhere, maybe it doesn't really come from the Bible, eh?

-Melekh ha-Mashiach,

That does not mean "King of Israel." It means "The Messiah of a King."

Check this out, though, brethren.

I've said it all along. You will never need non-biblical terminology to describe a biblical concept. INEVITABLY when I see someone defending the idea of the trinity, it comes down to two things... 1) analogies that have nothing to do with the Bible and 2) finally, an admission that how such a thing can be "comes down to faith" and that we can't really understand it, but we're supposed to accept it anyway. Here we see BOTH, in the conclusion of this article.

-The doctrine...exceeds the power of analogy, though we understand ourselves in three temporal modes (past-present-future) located in three spatial dimensions... Our bodies are also triune - body, soul, and spirit, and the world around us as a triunity of space, time, and matter.
 
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As far as that statement goes John Parsons is actually a Messianic Jew so I don't know where you get your sources from. I don't know who your "brethern" are because all of the Messianic Jews I've met believe Jesus is God and believe that Paul is an inspired writer. It is a very Jewish source, once again I have no idea where you get any of your information from.
Clearly not.

What has ALWAYS separated Christianity from Judaism, is that Judaism CELEBRATES diversity, while in Christianity, someone has to be right and wrong.

Many would say he ceased to be Jewish (in a religious sense) as soon as he embraced trinitarianism. I myself would say the highly disrespectful things that he says about Judaism, Jewish beliefs, and those people clinging TO them, are what would make ME say with a certainly, that this man may be Jewish by birth, but no longer by faith.

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In fact, Parsons doesn't sound like a Jewish name at ALL. If he's not Jewish by birth, AND not by faith... Now I'm wondering on what basis he does claim to be Jewish. I shall have to look into this in more depth
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I would say as soon as he became a cultural elitist, he made the transition from Judaism to Christianity. And if you don't believe me, you're welcome to invite him to go to a synagogue with you sometime. I'm pretty sure he's not going to be too welcome, after seeing the way he talks about Judaism.

And if you've met multiple people like that, I'm gonna have to guess that you live in the American southeast, where mainstream Christian churches love to fund and promote churches that teach their very same theology, but with a couple of Hebrew prayers thrown in here and there.
 
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Well, I dont see too much background info.. nobody seems to have heard of this guy, except his own and related ministries.

BUT I did find this

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/About_HFC/about_hfc.html


Where he admits not ONLY to attending Christian churches, when there are Messianic congregations around, BUT also expresses a desire for that church TO start a "Messianic" congregation, which as I said in my last post, is exactly why there IS this confusion, and people can't tell "Hebrew Roots Christianity" from "Messianic Judaism."
 
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If you click his name that will actually bring you to the website. But thank you for your concerns anyway :)

Ah, okay, I see that now. Sorry, just force of habit. As an admin on another site, I'm used to having to regularly enforce that. But you were on it. :)
 
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hehe.. Yeah it's one of the copyrights on the website you've got to provide who wrote it.
I have heard all the arguments you are saying before and I'm sure you've heard the article I have quoted before also. The first rabbi with the arguments against the Trinity was Rambam right? Yeah well he used the same arguments with the definitions of the words. So since I don't know Hebrew or going to pretend I do I can't comment on that. Would be a nice language to learn one day though. Hope that article helped someone else :p Anyway...
..God bless you. Take care.

Edit: Oh yeah and to answer your question. No I am not from Southeast America.
 
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Quite possibly. that Maimonnides was one smart cookie. I'm not familiar with anything he wrote about trinitarianism, as his teachings related to Judaism, rather than Christianity. But of course, I've barely begun to read the immense volumes of writings he left us, so I don't know.

For my part, I was just speaking "from the heart" that is, from my own understanding of the language, which I was quite insistent to learn FROM native speakers at my local synagogue, as opposed to other Hebrew-as-Second-Language types.


Maybe it will "help" someone, although I can't see in what way. G-d's truths are truths for all people, and I don't believe such things need to cater to one audience over another. This article was clearly not written to try to persuade people like me. If it were, the author would be tactful about what he's saying. Instead, he kind of threw his Messianic brethren under the bus, in order to appeal to a Christian audience.

If there's one thing I'd like people to take away from the article, it's that... that a person apparently claiming to be Messianic, is willing to cause divisions, and anymosity between himself and other Messianics, in order that Christians can relate to his message.
 
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I see you guys just can't seem to learn or grasp what is going on in the world. Perhaps someday some of you will see.

The Trinity is a false belief that started around 300-325 AD, and yet none of you seem willing to search it out or why. The King James Version Bible was written with religion in mind. It was also written to guide people a certain way. They endorsed the Trinity belief and so structured many scriptures after it.

You admit that there is one God before the NT came along, yet deny the one God after. Do you think Satan will use his own scriptures to deceive the world or the ones that were written by followers of christ?

There are no other scriptures in the world to use, so he must use them to convince the world that he is God. With Jesus being an offspring of God and made into a human, Satan has to destroy him because he cannot produce a physical body when he proclaims himself to be God.

Right now the world is set on a stage of belief, after the millennium is will be set on fact. Since deception reigns now it is hard fro those not given light to see the facts. So, Stan says, if you can't beat them, join them and make them believe in you and not the TRUTH.

Maybe someday you guys will figure it out.
 
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AnRev so do you deny that Jesus is God? By the way I still believe there is only one God. I don't know what you were taught about the Trinity but we don't believe in 3 God's.
 
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The Trinity is a false belief that started around 300-325 AD
Fancy that, around the same time the canon of scripture was closed...
Yet you still use the bible?
Go figure.
 
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi2nAHPpgvI[/video]

Another really cool website..
Mobius I hope you check it out it may answer some questions or objections you have that I can't.

http://realmessiah.com/Home.html
 
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AnRev so do you deny that Jesus is God? By the way I still believe there is only one God. I don't know what you were taught about the Trinity but we don't believe in 3 God's.
I have never believed or entertained the idea that Jesus was God. I have always known Jesus as a seperate being apart from God. The same with Holy Spirit. I will never do so either. I did at one time believe that there was three who gave witness, but three separate beings not one. Then I found out that that scripture was added to the bible.

What I have done is search the scriptures to learn why people believe in the Trinity. Most people do not believe in the Triune God, the three are one in the same. Only the religious people seem to follow this belief. About 20 years ago I figured out that the Antichrist was a spirit and when that happened I could see the Antichrist working in the churches and with television evangelists.

With that said, and listening to the video you placed, I still do not believe and never will. No One has seen God, end of story. Not even Abraham. Consider: I can see the ANTICHRIST at work, yet I cannot see it.

Jesus appeared to Paul, yet he did not. Three men appeared to Abraham, yet we know that 'men' refers to Godlike and appearing is not always in the physical sense. Some things appear in the mind.

So tell me, what does an angel look like? No one has ever said what an angel looks like. If Satan is an angel, will he look like a man? Yet we cannot see him.

No, I stand on my faith and knowledge. Jesus is one of the many sons that God has. God is a spirit that is so powerful that Jesus expressed his ability and that he was learning from God daily how to use his powers.

Knowing that Satan will proclaim himself to be God, I can deduce that the Trinity belief has been brought on by Satan. Whether it will stand when Satan is revealed or whether he will use another vantage is unknown. But the Trinity is not truth in any way.

And yes MahogonySnail, I use the bible even after knowing the Trinity belief did not exist before 300 AD.

The reason I have studied why people believe in the Trinity is to find the errors in translation. So if there is a Trinity God, what happened to Gods other sons? And why is it so hard to believe there is only one God and no Trinity?

Jesus always called God his "father." He always claimed God was "greater" than he was. When he left he said the Holy Spirit would come. He didn't say it was already here. That's like saying God is here, but leaving, and he'ill return.

As I have shown there are two thrones in heaven, one for Jesus and one for God. Jesus said he was at the right hand of power, not standing in power. Jesus said God gave him power to forgive, and yet people today say the same thing the ones who put him on the cross said, that only God has the power to forgive. Same story, different year.

It is my assumption, that the reason people cannot see that Jesus is the son of God is because they are not of God just like Jesus said. God only reveals his son to his children and chosen ones. God did not reveal Jesus to everyone then, and he does not reveal him to everyone today.

Jesus is not God or part of a Trinity, he is a single entity, the son of God sent to take away the sins of the world. If you don't ask to have your eyes opened, God will not open them. But don't forget, Satan will come quickly and take away your seeds if you don't stand firm with what you learn.
 
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No, I stand on my faith and knowledge. Jesus is one of the many sons that God has.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

So where is the bible verse that speaks of Christians being known as begotten sons of God?

I have never believed or entertained the idea that Jesus was God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So you never believed the bible when it says that Jesus is the Word?

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.


 
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We have had this discussion before. I repeat: Jesus is the only begotten son of God. Jesus granted followers to become sons and daughters of God,(through adoption) but we were not born that way. Our foundation comes form earth, not heaven.

“Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:” Mat 25:34

The word was God. All things exist by Gods word. What people fail to understand is that we exist today by Gods word. They think because the world and universe is doing it's thing that it is happening on its own, it is not. All things exist by the word of God. When the word became flesh is was not God himself, but the word of God, which was his promise and prophecy given to the prophets that he would send a savior to the world. It was his promise, and Jesus is no different than any of us, he cannot exist without the word of God. Therefore the word becoming flesh is a representation of the extension that even Jesus is subject to Gods word.(because he is not God)

But what happens after reading John 1:14 is that people loose sight of John 1:18. Here John immediately makes the claim that no one has seen God at any time. Now if Jesus was God then John just lied. If John lied to us then, how many other lies did he tell us? I myself prefer not to call John a liar or misuse his words because I can't see that Jesus is not God like so many are doing.

The ten virgin story is one that tells of how all ten know Jesus, but only half know what to expect and are ready. Jesus is the only "begotten" son of God, but he is not the only one. Even Job was told about all of Gods other sons. "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them." Job 1:6

This took place in heaven or in the chambers of God. If you are saying that Jesus is God, then you are also saying that Jesus has sons. Yet Jesus never claimed to have any children. Who then are these other sons of God, and who is God? How many sons does God have? (and no I'm not asking for my sake)

This subject is really getting old. If you haven't figured it out by now, then maybe you don't have the spirit of God in you. I'd be worrying about that if I were you, or perhaps your time to understand isn't here yet. Remember 50% of the world belongs to Satan and 50% belong to God.
 
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