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Anyone in Christ knows there will be no beast, prophet of the beast, or two witnesses who are not Jews`. God has always used Jews for His purposes in fulfilling His will.
Regarding the end times, the last moments of this age, all will be staged from the Israel of this age. It will not be staged in Philadelphia or Pekin.
We, that is we who believe God, know the Israel of this age is not the Israel of God, for the capital of Israel is not with us, that is New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will be brought down by God
I know what is written to occur will occur without any help from man except that God knows what man does without consulting Him. The Israel of this age, according to the Word will be here until its time is fulfilled here, until it no longer serves a purpose.
At the human level, the Jews deserve a homeland as do all people, and in this sense, perhaps I am a Zionist, but this does not exclude anyone from having the same right as do the Jews to a land. This does not allow for killing for Israel, for we who belong to Jesus Christ do not advocate killing for any reason.
The Palestinians deserve a homeland also. I say this at the spiritual level, in the sight of Jesus Christ, This is not political, it is spiritual reason.
As pertainting to political reasons to be for or against either Israel or the Palestinians, I ask what has Jesus Christ to do with Herod? What has He to do with Rome? Render to whom authority is given that authority, while those who believe Jesus Christ will act accordinly rendering Him the authority that is His, forever.
Regarding the end times, the last moments of this age, all will be staged from the Israel of this age. It will not be staged in Philadelphia or Pekin.
We, that is we who believe God, know the Israel of this age is not the Israel of God, for the capital of Israel is not with us, that is New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will be brought down by God
I know what is written to occur will occur without any help from man except that God knows what man does without consulting Him. The Israel of this age, according to the Word will be here until its time is fulfilled here, until it no longer serves a purpose.
At the human level, the Jews deserve a homeland as do all people, and in this sense, perhaps I am a Zionist, but this does not exclude anyone from having the same right as do the Jews to a land. This does not allow for killing for Israel, for we who belong to Jesus Christ do not advocate killing for any reason.
The Palestinians deserve a homeland also. I say this at the spiritual level, in the sight of Jesus Christ, This is not political, it is spiritual reason.
As pertainting to political reasons to be for or against either Israel or the Palestinians, I ask what has Jesus Christ to do with Herod? What has He to do with Rome? Render to whom authority is given that authority, while those who believe Jesus Christ will act accordinly rendering Him the authority that is His, forever.
What is at the heart of this is WHO is the rightful heir to the land? The Bible is clear Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob did NOT posses the land.
What keeps getting forgotten is that God did give them CONDITIONS under the Mosaic law in order to posses the land.
When did God REMOVE the conditions? Under the Mosaic law,they were to obey ALL THE LAWS of the covenant to remain in the land. If you know your Bible only one person FULFILLED ALL THE CONDITIONS of the Law. Under the conditions of the law ONLY CHRIST has the right to claim the land. Every other person on the face of the earth HAS BROKEN THE LAW.
What keeps getting forgotten is that God did give them CONDITIONS under the Mosaic law in order to posses the land.
When did God REMOVE the conditions? Under the Mosaic law,they were to obey ALL THE LAWS of the covenant to remain in the land. If you know your Bible only one person FULFILLED ALL THE CONDITIONS of the Law. Under the conditions of the law ONLY CHRIST has the right to claim the land. Every other person on the face of the earth HAS BROKEN THE LAW.
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Israel does not need to be in possession of the land in order to be the heir. The condition for the possession of the land of Israel will become a reality at the Second Coming of Christ. The land belongs to Israel (the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)...they have "inherited" it.
God's promise to Abraham:
Genesis 15:7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
God's promise to Jacob:
Genesis 28:4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
God WILL REMOVE those CONDITIONS at the Second Coming of Messiah:
Deuteronomy 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
Deuteronomy 30:2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
Deuteronomy 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
Deuteronomy 30:4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
Deuteronomy 30:5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deuteronomy 30:7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
Deuteronomy 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
Deuteronomy 30:9 And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers:
Deuteronomy 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
God did not "change His mind" and He WILL keep ALL His promises to Israel. The physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob WILL possess the land which they have "inherited" at the Second Coming of Christ.
God's promise to Abraham:
Genesis 15:7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
God's promise to Jacob:
Genesis 28:4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
God WILL REMOVE those CONDITIONS at the Second Coming of Messiah:
Deuteronomy 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
Deuteronomy 30:2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
Deuteronomy 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
Deuteronomy 30:4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
Deuteronomy 30:5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deuteronomy 30:7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
Deuteronomy 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.
Deuteronomy 30:9 And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers:
Deuteronomy 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
God did not "change His mind" and He WILL keep ALL His promises to Israel. The physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob WILL possess the land which they have "inherited" at the Second Coming of Christ.
And all those promises are fulfilled in Christ to true Israel which is the Church. The Church DID NOT REPLACE Israel. True Israel BECAME the Church. Remember for quite a while the FIRST believers were DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM. Did the early church STOP being descendants of Abraham because they BECAME Christian?
Did Nathaniel STOP being a true son of Israel when he became a Christian? No where in the Bible does it says Gentiles replaced the Jews,the Gentiles BECAME PART OF TRUE ISRAEL. When a branch is GRAFTED INTO a tree it BECOMES PART OF THAT SAME TREE. The grafted in branches NEVER REPLACE the tree but become part of the WHOLE TREE.
What is at the heart of this is who owns the land?...God!
And God has never given that land to anyone else not even the Church, but only to the descendents of Abraham-Isaac and Jacob.
What your forgetting is Paul's lesson in Galatians...
Galatians 3:17-18 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
And God has never given that land to anyone else not even the Church, but only to the descendents of Abraham-Isaac and Jacob.
What your forgetting is Paul's lesson in Galatians...
Galatians 3:17-18 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Nice try but do you want to read the rest of the Chapter
Galatians 3
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring usunto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Paul under the inspiration of the Holy plainly says that if we are Christ's we ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM AND HEIRS.
Galatians 3
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring usunto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Paul under the inspiration of the Holy plainly says that if we are Christ's we ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM AND HEIRS.
Myyyy such color...but you missed the whole point.
The issue is did God take away His promise of land to Abraham-Isaac and Jacob? What He promised in the Abrahamic covenant is not annulled by the conditional Mosaic Covenant.
The Church clearly inherits the spiritual promises given to Abraham and his seed as spelled out all through the New Testament, but nowhere does it explicitly say that the Church will receive specific land promises.
The issue is did God take away His promise of land to Abraham-Isaac and Jacob? What He promised in the Abrahamic covenant is not annulled by the conditional Mosaic Covenant.
The Church clearly inherits the spiritual promises given to Abraham and his seed as spelled out all through the New Testament, but nowhere does it explicitly say that the Church will receive specific land promises.
Isa 33:14
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Isa 33:15
He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
There is much more, and it would be good for all to read more of it.
It could also mean that we seek one to come(Hebrews 13;14),,this is as it seems an odd statement for the writer of Hebrews to make seeing that both Israel and Jerusalem were standing,and they possessed both when it was written. That is the writer seemed to have the mind that the city then present(Jerusalem) was not the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham's children of possession/forever but rather another would fulfill it.
Like the city are we, never feeling quite at home in this age. As Moses, we are strangers in a strange land. We yearn for our true home, and most of us know our true home is to come, and it will be non-allied to corruption, yes, it will be living, and forever, amen. Blessed be our Salvation, Jesus Christ, amen.
many times I have looked at (Isaiah 24;6),,"and few men left",,just before this he says "therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned",,so will he as in the days of Noah(Matt.24;37,,Luke 17;26) destroy the earth by fire and 8 spared and reseed it,also?,,,(just something I wonder and see very few speak of,lol,,,but is that what Isaiah 24;6 saying?)
I ponder the same. We wait, and we see how His Word develops, not thinking we can do anything to help or hinder, just in awe of actually witnessing so much. There were things I knew about the econmy 45 years ago. I knew, not because I am smart or more clever than others, I knew because I believe what I read. They way things developed before my very eyes is incredible. God is not slow like man may think, no, it has been swift, and I know there are things to come that will surprise most of mankind, while we wait in awe. Specifics, I dare not say I know, but when they do occur, I doubt any who believe God will be surprised in the least, just awed. God bless you, and keep you close........