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Then what particular denomination do you belong to? What is your statement of faith?
This is a forum to discuss scripture, I don't think it is appropriate to discuss a denomination. Christians are to use scripture to determine their statement of faith, not what a certain denomination says. We read that only to find out if the church we go to believes in scripture or distorts it.

I go to the Nazarene Church, we have a wonderful pastor who even has a doctor of theology degree, but he and I do not agree about several things we think the Lord tells us in scripture. Still, I listen to him and learn, but I check what he says with scripture. I would not want anyone to label me as a Nazarene instead of labeling me as a Christian.

To derail this discussion into a discussion of Ellen or a denomination is inappropriate.
 
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RedTent, apparently we as humans have become gods now. Believing the words of the serpent over the Word of God. This is how we know we are in the last days. God Bless you for standing up for the LORD's Sabbath through faith.

God Bless
You seriously do have extremely poor interpretation of the true Word of GOD. You use scripture yet you can ever answer a question through the scripture because your tripping over yourself. Your spewing crap mate! You mentioned about Paul going to the synagogues more or less saying Paul was keeping the sabbath. I was like...you need help dude! Seriously, you do!

You mentioned, 'In conclusion, how could we pick a few texts out that mention the apostles meeting on the first day of the week, and automatically make it a fact that they did this because the day was holy unto God. All they did was meet, that is it. The testimony of the Old Testament, Gospels, and early Church as it is written in the book of Acts, declare that the Sabbath is binding upon all men at all times'.

As I find this interpretation to be vulgar based upon the very fact. You do not have the heart for the Word of GOD. Firstly, how can miss the fact Paul is in reality working on the sabbath day. Yes, literally working for love of our LORD and our GOD JESUS. Secondly, you mentioned about 68 sabbath days they kept or whatever the number is...who cares! The point is this mate! Don't you think it would make good sense to be at those sabbath days? Did it ever occur to you that it is quite the possibility it would be the day where Paul could speak to more people than he ever could at one sitting? Did you ever think about that? From my observation he was reasoning, quite a bit in all the places he occupied. As well as preaching and teaching only to the teachable, who were listening. Like Lydia of Philippia.Of course reasoning can be seen as a work. Which was his job the moment he was saved by the Lord telling Paul 'to go out speaking and not to be silent'. Graciously, done so from his heart an act of his submission to our LORD and our GOD.

How can you miss that?! Seriously mate! How?
 

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OK I'm sorry but i have to say this for the like the millionth time.

NO ONE IS QUOTING EGW

Get off her case she's long dead, get over whatever you think happened when she was alive.

And LRG this is in general to everyone who uses this argument.
Okay then, but just for your information in case you already don't know this. This happens to be in the 28 Beliefs of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. How do you explain this?


The Gift of Prophecy 18

One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White. As the Lord’s messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which
provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by
which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.)


Law of God 19

The great principles of God’s law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express
God’s love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age.
These precepts are the basis of God’s covenant with His people and the standard in God’s judgment. Through the agency of
the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments. This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being.
It is an evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow men. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power
of Christ to transform lives, and therefore strengthens Christian witness. (Ex. 20:1-17; Ps. 40:7, 8; Matt. 22:36-40; Deut. 28:1-14; Matt. 5:17-20; Heb. 8:8-10; John 15:7-10; Eph. 2:8-10; 1 John 5:3; Rom. 8:3, 4; Ps. 19:7-14.)


Sabbath 20

The beneficent Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day
Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath.
The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign
of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s
perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to eve
-ning, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Ex. 20:8-11; Luke 4:16; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Matt. 12:1-12; Ex. 31:13-17; Eze. 20:12, 20; Deut. 5:12-15; Heb. 4:1-11; Lev. 23:32; Mark 1:32.)


Christ’s Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary 24

There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf,
making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent. (Heb. 8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22; 1:3; 2:16, 17; Dan. 7:9-27; 8:13, 14; 9:24-27; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6; Lev. 16; Rev. 14:6, 7; 20:12; 14:12; 22:12.)


Death and Resurrection 26

The wages of sin is death. But God, who alone is immortal, will grant eternal life to His redeemed. Until that day death is an
unconscious state for all people. When Christ, who is our life, appears, the resurrected righteous and the living righteous will
be glorified and caught up to meet their Lord. The second resurrection, the resurrection of the unrighteous, will take place
a thousand years later. (Rom. 6:23; 1 Tim. 6:15, 16; Eccl. 9:5, 6; Ps. 146:3, 4; John 11:11-14; Col. 3:4; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 1 Thess. 4:13-17; John 5:28, 29; Rev. 20:1-10.)
 

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This is a forum to discuss scripture, I don't think it is appropriate to discuss a denomination. Christians are to use scripture to determine their statement of faith, not what a certain denomination says. We read that only to find out if the church we go to believes in scripture or distorts it.

I go to the Nazarene Church, we have a wonderful pastor who even has a doctor of theology degree, but he and I do not agree about several things we think the Lord tells us in scripture. Still, I listen to him and learn, but I check what he says with scripture. I would not want anyone to label me as a Nazarene instead of labeling me as a Christian.

To derail this discussion into a discussion of Ellen or a denomination is inappropriate.
I don't think it is appropriate to try to trick people either.

There is nothing wrong with stating your statement of faith. Your failure to do so when asked is very telling.

You may go to the Nazarene Church but you don't have to be a car to be in a garage.

It is your actual beliefs that really matter.
 

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This is a forum to discuss scripture, I don't think it is appropriate to discuss a denomination. Christians are to use scripture to determine their statement of faith, not what a certain denomination says. We read that only to find out if the church we go to believes in scripture or distorts it.

I go to the Nazarene Church, we have a wonderful pastor who even has a doctor of theology degree, but he and I do not agree about several things we think the Lord tells us in scripture. Still, I listen to him and learn, but I check what he says with scripture. I would not want anyone to label me as a Nazarene instead of labeling me as a Christian.

To derail this discussion into a discussion of Ellen or a denomination is inappropriate.
Oh, I forgot to add that being evasive is a form of deception.

According to what I have confirmed about the Nazarene Church they do not worship on the Sabbath nor do they believe in annihilation.

16.2. We believe that glorious and everlasting life is assured to all who savingly believe in, and obediently follow, Jesus Christ our Lord; and that the finally impenitent shall suffer eternally in hell.
 
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What I am saying is Paul was working everyday of his life since the moment he was saved by the Lord. Which also comes to mind Paul was not baptized with water wasn't he at that time of moment? That's probably a Thread that's been blasted to bits as well.

Anyway, Paul was literally in true essence of the word 'Working', yes indeed working! It is quite funny that those that came to listen to Paul on sabbath day was a slap in the face! Because Paul was not keeping the sabbath day they were, as they were still stuck in the tradition of the law. Paul work was to reason with them as to why JESUS death & resurrection fulfilled the law. It took a lot of work to reason with them. That it is true!

Don't you get it? Paul was insulting the sabbath day by establishing his works right under their noses for the Lord and he was insulting their intellect. Insulting their intellect, even through reasoning argumentatively he knew they still won't get it. As they choose to be stuck in their way. It was prime time to open up on their stupidity and reveal their weaknesses in the Lord.

Paul wasn't preaching the old testament he was preaching the 'Good News' that things have changed for the goodness of mankind. He was a rational and radical speaker even to the Apostles, as they still thought JESUS only belonged to the JEWS! Paul would have been feverishly working to undermine those who had come to attack him in the synagogues. Paul had a big job to handle. Not only did he go about spreading the good news. But he was had to work to convince those the good news is most certainly true!
 
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You seriously do have extremely poor interpretation of the true Word of GOD. You use scripture yet you can ever answer a question through the scripture because your tripping over yourself. Your spewing crap mate! You mentioned about Paul going to the synagogues more or less saying Paul was keeping the sabbath. I was like...you need help dude! Seriously, you do!

You mentioned, 'In conclusion, how could we pick a few texts out that mention the apostles meeting on the first day of the week, and automatically make it a fact that they did this because the day was holy unto God. All they did was meet, that is it. The testimony of the Old Testament, Gospels, and early Church as it is written in the book of Acts, declare that the Sabbath is binding upon all men at all times'.

As I find this interpretation to be vulgar based upon the very fact. You do not have the heart for the Word of GOD. Firstly, how can miss the fact Paul is in reality working on the sabbath day. Yes, literally working for love of our LORD and our GOD JESUS. Secondly, you mentioned about 68 sabbath days they kept or whatever the number is...who cares! The point is this mate! Don't you think it would make good sense to be at those sabbath days? Did it ever occur to you that it is quite the possibility it would be the day where Paul could speak to more people than he ever could at one sitting? Did you ever think about that? From my observation he was reasoning, quite a bit in all the places he occupied. As well as preaching and teaching only to the teachable, who were listening. Like Lydia of Philippia.Of course reasoning can be seen as a work. Which was his job the moment he was saved by the Lord telling Paul 'to go out speaking and not to be silent'. Graciously, done so from his heart an act of his submission to our LORD and our GOD.

How can you miss that?! Seriously mate! How?
Accusing Paul of not honoring the Sabbath over thinking and preaching. Good for getting a good grade in human logic? Have you gone to the Lord with all your logic about all passages in scripture about Sabbath? And while you are communicating to the Lord, you might mention the spewing crap and vulgar interpretation you need to explain scripture. Try listening to the Lord instead of telling Him.
 
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Oh, I forgot to add that being evasive is a form of deception.

According to what I have confirmed about the Nazarene Church they do not worship on the Sabbath nor do they believe in annihilation.

16.2. We believe that glorious and everlasting life is assured to all who savingly believe in, and obediently follow, Jesus Christ our Lord; and that the finally impenitent shall suffer eternally in hell.
Are you accusing me of being a Nazarene instead of just being a Christian? Of going to their ideas of scripture instead of going to scripture? I told you, I am a Christian. Did you read what I said at all or pick one word only? And are you really saying they don't honor Sabbath because they choose Sunday as the Sabbath? I have never heard of "annihilation". the net says it is a song by a band called death. The net also talks about man knowing exactly what happens to sinners, all the details. I am frankly not interested in anything to do with hell, don't plan on going there, are you researching it?
 

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Are you accusing me of being a Nazarene instead of just being a Christian? Of going to their ideas of scripture instead of going to scripture? I told you, I am a Christian. Did you read what I said at all or pick one word only? And are you really saying they don't honor Sabbath because they choose Sunday as the Sabbath? I have never heard of "annihilation". the net says it is a song by a band called death. The net also talks about man knowing exactly what happens to sinners, all the details. I am frankly not interested in anything to do with hell, don't plan on going there, are you researching it?
You like to play games don't you?

You are a Jew or want to be one? You can't play both sides of the fence. You either choose law or grace.

You are the one who mentioned the Nazarene Church.

Are you part of those messianic or Hebrew roots movement?

If you are a Christian then you should know that New Testament believer's do not follow Old Covenant law.

Why would I need to research Hell? You are pretty arrogant for someone that can't come up with a statement of faith.
 

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Accusing Paul of not honoring the Sabbath over thinking and preaching. Good for getting a good grade in human logic? Have you gone to the Lord with all your logic about all passages in scripture about Sabbath? And while you are communicating to the Lord, you might mention the spewing crap and vulgar interpretation you need to explain scripture. Try listening to the Lord instead of telling Him.
Please, by all means take your own advice. Considering all the scripture that you seem to ignore your Bible must look like swiss cheese.

Scripture proves Paul went to the Synagogues to preach the gospel.

You do know that if you go back under the law that you forfeit grace, don't you? Maybe you better check that out.
 
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Accusing Paul of not honoring the Sabbath over thinking and preaching. Good for getting a good grade in human logic? Have you gone to the Lord with all your logic about all passages in scripture about Sabbath? And while you are communicating to the Lord, you might mention the spewing crap and vulgar interpretation you need to explain scripture. Try listening to the Lord instead of telling Him.
Deal with it. For it is the Truth.

He killed two birds with one stone. He didn't honor the law. He did honor the Lord by doing the Lords work on sabbath day according the law. He was doing what the Lord commanded him to do to 'speak and not to be silent'. Seven days a week 24hrs was Paul job.

LOL...Yes, I guess I am accusing Paul of not keeping the sabbath day. Even though he did because he was present on sabbath days. But, why am I saying Paul didn't honor the law of the sabbath day. That is because Paul knew since the resurrection of the LORD Paul came to understand the Laws was truly fulfilled and Paul gave all fear to the LORD and realized that being 'OF' the LORD not in the Lord which was of his own righteous. But Paul wanted to be in the righteousness 'OF' the LORD, and it was revealed the LORD is the ultimate replacement for the sabbath. Paul rested in the LORD to be 'OF' the LORD that resting in the LORD is the holiest of Sabbath Days. Resting in the LORD can also mean everyday is a SABBATH DAY when you worship, give thanks, praise, and pray to LORD.

I feel absolutely sorry for you. That you've only have established just one day set aside for the LORD. Where myself and other like minded Christians believe 6 days + 1 day = Everyday is a SABBATH DAY.

I laugh with displeasure at the pompous feeble weak link in your counter-attack for it just fizzed. Not a 'BIG BANG' by the way which is Gen 1:1 In the Beginning. In case you didn't know that. Not even a BANG or a POP! LOL a fizzzzz! LOL

Oh I shouldn't LOL because I don't make jokes. I sit back just looking at this Thread and report the facts!
 
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Are you accusing me of being a Nazarene instead of just being a Christian? Of going to their ideas of scripture instead of going to scripture? I told you, I am a Christian. Did you read what I said at all or pick one word only? And are you really saying they don't honor Sabbath because they choose Sunday as the Sabbath? I have never heard of "annihilation". the net says it is a song by a band called death. The net also talks about man knowing exactly what happens to sinners, all the details. I am frankly not interested in anything to do with hell, don't plan on going there, are you researching it?
Deal with it. For it is the Truth.

He killed two birds with one stone. He didn't honor the law. He did honor the Lord by doing the Lords work on sabbath day according the law. He was doing what the Lord commanded him to do to 'speak and not to be silent'. Seven days a week 24hrs was Paul job.

LOL...Yes, I guess I am accusing Paul of not keeping the sabbath day. Even though he did because he was present on sabbath days. But, why am I saying Paul didn't honor the law of the sabbath day. That is because Paul knew since the resurrection of the LORD Paul came to understand the Laws was truly fulfilled and Paul gave all fear to the LORD and realized that being 'OF' the LORD not in the Lord which was of his own righteous. But Paul wanted to be in the righteousness 'OF' the LORD, and it was revealed the LORD is the ultimate replacement for the sabbath. Paul rested in the LORD to be 'OF' the LORD that resting in the LORD is the holiest of Sabbath Days. Resting in the LORD can also mean everyday is a SABBATH DAY when you worship, give thanks, praise, and pray to LORD.

I feel absolutely sorry for you. That you've only have established just one day set aside for the LORD. Where myself and other like minded Christians believe 6 days + 1 day = Everyday is a SABBATH DAY.

I laugh with displeasure at the pompous feeble weak link in your counter-attack for it just fizzed. Not a 'BIG BANG' by the way which is Gen 1:1 In the Beginning. In case you didn't know that. Not even a BANG or a POP! LOL a fizzzzz! LOL

Oh I shouldn't LOL because I don't make jokes. I sit back just looking at this Thread and report the facts!
Scripture doesn't back up what you are endorsing TheClimaxWarrior.

Acts 24:10-14
10 Then Paul, after that the governor had beckoned unto him to speak , answered , Forasmuch as I know that thou hast been of many years a judge unto this nation, I do the more cheerfully answer for myself:
11 Because that thou mayest understand , that there are yet but twelve days since I went up to Jerusalem for to worship .
12 And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people , neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:
13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Even in the law of the Old Testament people worked on appointed Sabbath days according to God's commandments.

Leviticus 23:39-42
39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.
40 And ye shalltake you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days.
41 And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
42 Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:

Jesus also worked on the Sabbath. It was Pharisaical tradition that distorted the truth of the Sabbath law.
 
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YES IT DOES ACTUALLY. THE LORDS SACRIFICE FULFILLED EVERYTHING AS A CHRISTIAN MAN I CAN LIVE MY LIFE IN TRUE FREEDOM. I DO NOT FEAR DEATH. I AM NO LONGER BOUND TO THE LAW LIKE I THOUGHT I WAS FOR SO LONG UNDER CATHOLICISM RULE. I NO LONGER NEED TO DO WORKS FOR MY OWN SELFISH SAKE. I DO WORKS NATURALLY FOR HIM. I SPEAK OUT FOR HIM THE TRUTH. I CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED TO KEEP A STUPID SABBATH DAY TO BE WITH MY LORD AND MY GOD. FOR I DO NOT UNDERMINE HIS PRECIOUS GIFT OF REDEMPTION. EVERY PART OF MY ENTIRE BEING IS A SABBATH ONTO THE LORD. NOT ONE PATHETIC MORONIC DAY OF THE WEEK. LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SPEAK...I AM FREE!

I AM NOT SHACKLED TO ANY LAWS OR THE PROPHETS! THE LORDS DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE! EVERYDAY I TRY TO ABIDE IN THE LORDS COMMANDS HIS LAW AND OF THE PROPHETS. THOUGH I AM FREE I STILL CHOSE TO PLEASE MY GOD! HE KNOWS I NOT NEED BUT I CHOOSE TOO! IF I CHOOSE A SABBATH DAY PERSONALLY IT IS BECAUSE I WANT NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO AND THUS TO BE SAVED. THAT IS UTTER SUPER CRAP AND IT STINKS!

WHEN I AM EVER ASKED DOES ONE NEED TO KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED? I SAY NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A SABBATH DAY IT MUST COME FROM YOU HEART. NOT FROM YOUR FART THAT PEOPLE ARE FEEDING CRAP INTO YOU I WOULD TELL THEM EVERY DAY IS A SABBATH DAY UNTO THE LORD. THE COMMANDS TO KEEP UNDER THE LAW IS NO MORE. BUT LIKE IS SAYS WE DO SO NATURALLY BECAUSE WE GLORIFY HIM AND HIS GRACE!

SO NO IT IS COMPULSORY TO KEEP THE SABBATH!!!

HOPE YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE IT OUT!!!
 
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YES IT DOES ACTUALLY. THE LORDS SACRIFICE FULFILLED EVERYTHING AS A CHRISTIAN MAN I CAN LIVE MY LIFE IN TRUE FREEDOM. I DO NOT FEAR DEATH. I AM NO LONGER BOUND TO THE LAW LIKE I THOUGHT I WAS FOR SO LONG UNDER CATHOLICISM RULE. I NO LONGER NEED TO DO WORKS FOR MY OWN SELFISH SAKE. I DO WORKS NATURALLY FOR HIM. I SPEAK OUT FOR HIM THE TRUTH. I CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED TO KEEP A STUPID SABBATH DAY TO BE WITH MY LORD AND MY GOD. FOR I DO NOT UNDERMINE HIS PRECIOUS GIFT OF REDEMPTION. EVERY PART OF MY ENTIRE BEING IS A SABBATH ONTO THE LORD. NOT ONE PATHETIC MORONIC DAY OF THE WEEK. LISTEN TO ME WHEN I SPEAK...I AM FREE!

I AM NOT SHACKLED TO ANY LAWS OR THE PROPHETS! THE LORDS DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE! EVERYDAY I TRY TO ABIDE IN THE LORDS COMMANDS HIS LAW AND OF THE PROPHETS. THOUGH I AM FREE I STILL CHOSE TO PLEASE MY GOD! HE KNOWS I NOT NEED BUT I CHOOSE TOO! IF I CHOOSE A SABBATH DAY PERSONALLY IT IS BECAUSE I WANT NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO AND THUS TO BE SAVED. THAT IS UTTER SUPER CRAP AND IT STINKS!

WHEN I AM EVER ASKED DOES ONE NEED TO KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED? I SAY NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A SABBATH DAY IT MUST COME FROM YOU HEART. NOT FROM YOUR FART THAT PEOPLE ARE FEEDING CRAP INTO YOU I WOULD TELL THEM EVERY DAY IS A SABBATH DAY UNTO THE LORD. THE COMMANDS TO KEEP UNDER THE LAW IS NO MORE. BUT LIKE IS SAYS WE DO SO NATURALLY BECAUSE WE GLORIFY HIM AND HIS GRACE!

SO NO IT IS COMPULSORY TO KEEP THE SABBATH!!!

HOPE YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE IT OUT!!!
Paul told us to believe as he did, and as you just read he believed in everything written in the law and the prophets as I quoted in Acts 24:14.

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

I heard a person once say that there is much "greasy grace" floating around in churches these days, and it's due to preaching half truths by calling certain parts of God's word void, abolished and gone through Christ Jesus. Many say that the word "fulfill" means replaced by something else that's better.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

People have been taught that physical circumcision is part of the law God gave to Moses which it isn't. Circumcision of the heart is in the original law, but not fleshly circumcision. That was a sign of the covenant with Abraham long before Israel was ever a nation.

Deuteronomy 8:3b that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Jesus quoted this law to Satan, because Satan was endorsing half truth which is actually a lie and no truth at all.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
 
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I woke up this morning, and honestly, am saddened by many posts in this thread. The hardness of the hearts, confirmed by the evil things being said, is worse than I thought.

My statement of faith is simple. If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't know to make it any easier for you. B I B L E

The amount of Scriptural evidence that has been shared regarding the Sabbath is more than enough to make it clear, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, that the Sabbath of the LORD was given to us from a holy God. Written by His finger in stone. Observed by His prophets, apostles and Christ Himself. If you choose to follow the doctrines and commandments of evil men, then the LORD cannot force your will, and He will allow you to perish in your sins.

Read about the prophets of old, about the apostles and about the Words of Jesus. They all spoke truth, were persecuted and many were killed by those who said they served God. I thank God and Jesus for persecution.

Matthew 5:10-12 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."

I will now practice the same advice the Lord gave the disciples when people would reject their message in the towns they would enter into.

Mark 6:10-12 " And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. And they went out, and preached that men should repent."

*Shakes dust from feet, and leaves to continue preaching repentance*

You can have this thread.

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I will now practice the same advice the Lord gave the disciples when people would reject their message in the towns they would enter into.

Mark 6:10-12 " And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. And they went out, and preached that men should repent."

*Shakes dust from feet, and leaves to continue preaching repentance*

You can have this thread.
God Bless
It's a shame that some professing Christians make void the law of love and practice hate instead. They really don't know God, and he don't know them either. Loving God's way is the key. The law that God gave to Moses defines the Godly attitude and attributes of this love.

Leviticus 19:11-18
11 Ye shall not steal , neither deal falsely , neither lie one to another.
12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.
15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
 
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Lol LRG I'll let you have the last laugh, pathetic.

Do you feel better now? Please don't answer rhetorical question.

I just posted some of the beliefs. Try to wiggle out of that one! Now. Who may I ask gets the last laugh?[/QUOTE]
 
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I woke up this morning, and honestly, am saddened by many posts in this thread. The hardness of the hearts, confirmed by the evil things being said, is worse than I thought.

My statement of faith is simple. If you haven't figured it out by now, I don't know to make it any easier for you. B I B L E

The amount of Scriptural evidence that has been shared regarding the Sabbath is more than enough to make it clear, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, that the Sabbath of the LORD was given to us from a holy God. Written by His finger in stone. Observed by His prophets, apostles and Christ Himself. If you choose to follow the doctrines and commandments of evil men, then the LORD cannot force your will, and He will allow you to perish in your sins.

Read about the prophets of old, about the apostles and about the Words of Jesus. They all spoke truth, were persecuted and many were killed by those who said they served God. I thank God and Jesus for persecution.

Matthew 5:10-12 "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."

I will now practice the same advice the Lord gave the disciples when people would reject their message in the towns they would enter into.

Mark 6:10-12 " And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. And they went out, and preached that men should repent."

*Shakes dust from feet, and leaves to continue preaching repentance*

You can have this thread.

God Bless
I'm glad he got to say this before he got banned.