Are women allowed to Preach?

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Not unless JESUS washes him FIRST
And if HE doesn’t...just as JESUS said:


he has no part with HIM

(I believe you’ll find that in John 13)
You are free to your own opinion on this. My belief is that once a person submits to God, the Holy Ghost and recognizes Jesus died in payment for their sins and also repents requesting forgiveness for those sins, then he/she has been cleansed.
 
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A woman knowing of CHRIST?

what exactly do you mean by this statement?
A woman trusting Christ as her savior. Willing to follow and have respect for the exact word of God. A woman truly repenting for her sins and giving her life over to God completely.
 

miknik5

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A high priest or anyone else can get around being unclean by doing and teaching exactly what God has told them.
Not unless JESUS washes him FIRST
And if HE doesn’t...just as JESUS said:


he has no part with HIM

(I believe you’ll find that in John 13)
You are free to your own opinion on this. My belief is that once a person submits to God, the Holy Ghost and recognizes Jesus died in payment for their sins and also repents requesting forgiveness for those sins, then he/she has been cleansed.
Thank you for clearing that up

that wasn't what you said at first
 

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You are free to your own opinion on this. My belief is that once a person submits to God, the Holy Ghost and recognizes Jesus died in payment for their sins and also repents requesting forgiveness for those sins, then he/she has been cleansed.
A woman trusting Christ as her savior. Willing to follow and have respect for the exact word of God. A woman truly repenting for her sins and giving her life over to God completely.
And does the filling of the HOLY SPIRIT apply to women too?
 
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Are you saying that Moses is in line to Jesus?
Moses will tell you differently
You answer questions with more questions of your own. That is not how a conversation is designed to go. You should answer questions first and then proceed to ask more questions of your own. Otherwise you are giving weight only to your questions and no weight to the questions of others.

No, I am not saying Moses was as close to God as Jesus. I am saying that he pleased God very much and was an extremely wise man.
 

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G5100 τίς tis (tis') p/i.
1. some or any person or object
However it's gender is masculine. So Being it governs the rest of the clause. So when we come to ἐπιγινωσκέτω G1921 which is 3rd person singular. Proper grammar would dictate it be translated "Let Him Recognize" Not "themselves" as found in the NIV. This fact also limits the translation ἀδελφοί to brothers.
 
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And does the filling of the HOLY SPIRIT apply to women too?
That is part of one giving their life completely unto God is it not ? I believe I have already answered your question here.
 

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What I will do is to leave that church. Because I cannot trust any woman to give me truth that has already broken God's commands. She broke God's orders the second she began to minister to men inside the church. Therefore anything she says afterward cannot be trusted.
Please do it quietly
Leave that is

and leave her to HER HUSBAND AND MASTER
 

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You answer questions with more questions of your own. That is not how a conversation is designed to go. You should answer questions first and then proceed to ask more questions of your own. Otherwise you are giving weight only to your questions and no weight to the questions of others.

No, I am not saying Moses was as close to God as Jesus. I am saying that he pleased God very much and was an extremely wise man.
Moses was a shadow pointing to CHRIST
Every WORD of GOD is a prophecy and a picture and a parallel pointing us to CHRIST

The WORD is a testimony of JESUS

Not Moses
 

miknik5

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Another thing sir
a good converser does not put words into the mouth of another and suggest something more than what he/she has said
 
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Please do it quietly
Leave that is

and leave her to HER HUSBAND AND MASTER
Oh, I will leave quietly. And if she has a husband, then either she is not listening unto him very well or he is not teaching her well. If she is preaching unto men in the church, then she is not properly submitting unto her husband nor her Lord either one.
 

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woman are not allowed to interupt church by praying in tongues but paul states in 1st corinthians 11:5 that when woman pray they must cover their head but yes i know many great ones preaching is just simply sharing Gods word.
 

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Out of context because the verse was presented without context with the implication that it stands on its own and needs no contextual nuancing.

Regarding the "for" vs "because", there is a relevant cultural/religious context, part of which was a cultic teaching that Eve was created before Adam, had secret knowledge from the serpent, and did not sin. Within that context, the meaning would be closer to, "the truth of the matter is that...".
Did you come up with this on your own or did someone tell you this?

I assume you are familiar with the Greek word gar?
 

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You answer questions with more questions of your own. That is not how a conversation is designed to go. You should answer questions first and then proceed to ask more questions of your own. Otherwise you are giving weight only to your questions and no weight to the questions of others.

No, I am not saying Moses was as close to God as Jesus. I am saying that he pleased God very much and was an extremely wise man.
I had no purpose in answering a question of your own imaginings.
I don’t even know where you got the idea that I was somehow being disrespectful to Moses
therefore I didn’t answer your question but turned it back on you
and this is that I meant when I said it is not good when a person puts words into another’s mouth and suggests something they never said
 
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Moses was a shadow pointing to CHRIST
Every WORD of GOD is a prophecy and a picture and a parallel pointing us to CHRIST

The WORD is a testimony of JESUS

Not Moses
Did I ever state the WORD was any testimony unto Moses ? It seems you are now attempting to place words in my mouth that do not belong there. Are you now attempting to preach the gospel unto a saved man ? It appears that you are and God does not deliver such authority unto you. If you have questions or need some type of direction then I am glad to help you. However, I am not in need of your direction nor your teachings.
 

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Oh, I will leave quietly. And if she has a husband, then either she is not listening unto him very well or he is not teaching her well. If she is preaching unto men in the church, then she is not properly submitting unto her husband nor her Lord either one.
You didn’t understand. She indeed does have a “husband” who is also her LORD and MASTER
and she is HIS BRIDE too
 

miknik5

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If her LORD and MASTER and HUSBAND whispers in her ear what was she commanded to do?

Matthew 10:27 provides the answer
 
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Moses was a shadow pointing to CHRIST
Every WORD of GOD is a prophecy and a picture and a parallel pointing us to CHRIST

The WORD is a testimony of JESUS

Not Moses
Who is it that is placing words in another person's mouth really ? Right here it certainly appears as though you are doing just that by assuming something that was never stated. I never placed any words in your mouth whatsoever. I simply asked you for a clarification, which you proceeded to deny. There is a difference between the two.
 
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You didn’t understand. She indeed does have a “husband” who is also her LORD and MASTER
and she is HIS BRIDE too
Her Lord is not her husband. A husband is a man that walks upon the earth and the Lord is in heaven. I think you should learn the difference between the two.
 

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Who is it that is placing words in another person's mouth really ? Right here it certainly appears as though you are doing just that by assuming something that was never stated. I never placed any words in your mouth whatsoever. I simply asked you for a clarification, which you proceeded to deny. There is a difference between the two.
You did sir. As soon as you had something more to add then what I said. That is when you put words into my mouth

I referred to haggai 2 and said no man was clean before GOD and you took the opportunity to suggest that somehow I was insulting Moses

I’ll pull up the posts for you to review