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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I stopped voting decades ago. I refuse to vote for people going to hell.
So if you don't vote, you want us voters to vote for Biden or whoever the globalists want for our country? They don't have our best interests at heart. And they don't have yours either. In the Great Reset, they want get rid of people your age, so I'd think twice about who you support. After your age group, mine would be next.

I'd rather vote for Trump over any of them. Even if the election gets stolen again. It's the principle that counts.
 

JohnB

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So if you don't vote, you want us voters to vote for Biden or whoever the globalists want for our country? They don't have our best interests at heart. And they don't have yours either. In the Great Reset, they want get rid of people your age, so I'd think twice about who you support. After your age group, mine would be next.

I'd rather vote for Trump over any of them. Even if the election gets stolen again. It's the principle that counts.
If you want to speed up Jesus return, you could vote for Trump.
 

Joelightening

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If you want to speed up Jesus return, you could vote for Trump.
Hi John. My wife and I don't vote either. The main problem I have with democrats is that they promote homosexuals. That is terrible. Of course with Mr. Trump, you wind up with constant controversy in the government. He has been the most investigated President in history. Even so, based on principal, I think Trump is better. Maybe Desantis would be even better. Anyway, we will stay with Jesus!
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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If you want to speed up Jesus return, you could vote for Trump.
Yeah, I actually like both of those choices. What real Christian wouldn't want Jesus to come back soon? And why wouldn't I want to vote for Trump who benefitted this country as opposed to Biden who made it worse?

I noticed how you don't ever talk about the awful things Biden and his administration are doing but parrot all the false talking points that other globalists spout about Trump.
 

HeIsHere

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I stopped voting decades ago. I refuse to vote for people going to hell.
No wonder the USA is in such a dire situation with this rather simplistic view.

This "dichotomous thinking" is not very emotionally healthy, you should know that
 

JohnB

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No wonder the USA is in such a dire situation with this rather simplistic view.

This "dichotomous thinking" is not very emotionally healthy, you should know that
How many politicians are not corrupt? Are there any honest politicians?
 

JohnB

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Yeah, I actually like both of those choices. What real Christian wouldn't want Jesus to come back soon? And why wouldn't I want to vote for Trump who benefitted this country as opposed to Biden who made it worse?

I noticed how you don't ever talk about the awful things Biden and his administration are doing but parrot all the false talking points that other globalists spout about Trump.
I have already said BOTH parties are corrupt and I stopped voting decades ago.

‘Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men – Noah, Daniel and Job – were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness,’ declares the Sovereign Lord. . . . ‘Or if I bring a sword against that country and say, ‘Let the sword pass throughout the land,’ and I kill its men and their animals, as surely as I live,’ declares the Sovereign Lord, ‘even if these three men were in it, they could not save their own sons or daughters. They alone would be saved.’ ” (Ezekiel 14:13-18)
 

JohnB

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So if you don't vote, you want us voters to vote for Biden or whoever the globalists want for our country? They don't have our best interests at heart. And they don't have yours either. In the Great Reset, they want get rid of people your age, so I'd think twice about who you support. After your age group, mine would be next.

I'd rather vote for Trump over any of them. Even if the election gets stolen again. It's the principle that counts.
The problem with the democracy, you're out voted by the people who don't think.
 

Cameron143

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How many politicians are not corrupt? Are there any honest politicians?
There is something wrong with everyone. If perfection is your standard in life, no one qualifies for anything.
 

JohnB

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There is something wrong with everyone. If perfection is your standard in life, no one qualifies for anything.
Not asking for perfection, yet that is what many Christians expect of other Christians, to be sinless. Except in the case of politicians.
 

Cameron143

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Not asking for perfection, yet that is what many Christians expect of other Christians, to be sinless. Except in the case of politicians.
It is unfortunate that Christians far too often hold other Christians to an impossible standard. But doing the same to others isn't going to change anything.
 

shittim

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None of us are to compare ourselves with others, Jesus is our model of how to live.
 

HeIsHere

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Yes and can you answer the question?
The point is when it comes to choosing leaders there are other factors along with morality one must consider, like policy, party platform.

At present, I actually see a resurgence of politicians who are responsive and seek to serve their constituents especially at a local level.
 

shittim

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Why don't you ask the Lord who you should vote for, He never makes mistakes?:)(y):unsure:
 

Cameron143

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Actually GOD will appoint evil people to punish a nation.
Does God only select wicked leaders? If only we had a leader selected who was after God's own heart to encourage us.
 

shittim

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We seem to get the leader we deserve, keeping in mind that only a remnant are of true faith according to Jesus.
 

Cameron143

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Has anyone researched the term remnant? I don't mean the definition. I mean, is it only applied to Israel? Did the outpouring of the Spirit on Pentecost change anything? How do you get to a number no man can number if only a remnant of each generation gets redeemed?