Are you sure of your salvation?

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Tootles_1

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In my bible study group we discussed the sunday sermon our pastor gave about being held hostage by worry. My pastor just so happens to be in my bible study group and he asked what do we worry about. The usual responses flowed: my children, my security, etc. However, one peer confided that he worries about his salvation and the salvation of his friends - Christians and non-Christians alike. He said a few yrs back he wanted to really dig into the Word and discover what it truly means to be a Christ follower. And from what he found in the Bible his life did not match up. There was a lot of discussion afterwards that get too involved. However, my question to you is this: do you ever question your salvation? If so, is that healthy or a trick of the devil? If not, is that "being sure" or just complacent?
 
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I think it's healthy to question your salvation, make sure you really believe what you believe. Test yourself.

It's not healthy to be doubting, what you already know to be the truth.
 
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I think it's healthy to question your salvation, make sure you really believe what you believe. Test yourself.

It's not healthy to be doubting, what you already know to be the truth.
No way to doubt your salvation is to doubt that the works Christ did the Cross was not enough for your salvation.
Eph 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Eph 2:9Not of works, lest any man should boast.Eph 2:10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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I feel that if you are have doubts about your salvation then there is probably an underlying issue that needs to be taken to the Lord in prayer. We are saved by grace THROUGH faith, faith is believing and if you are having doubts then that's probably an indicator that your relationship with the Lord isn't where it could or should be. Thankfully God, in His infinte mercy and grace, is always there for us and is waiting for us with open arms when we set our eyes and our hearts upon Him.

Just be sure that what you are feeling is conviction and not condemnation...
 
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suaso

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To be comfortable is dangerous. If I am comfortable, I can lose sight of the meaning of life. I do not question Christ's assurence of salvation. I question the disposition of my own soul daily to make sure that I am acting as one ought to act when one believes in Christ's assuerence of salvation.
 
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No way to doubt your salvation is to doubt that the works Christ did the Cross was not enough for your salvation.
Eph 2:8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Eph 2:9Not of works, lest any man should boast.Eph 2:10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

This is the start of the covenant,Once a man/woman has accepted the words of christ(believes this)They are held to a standard what?

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Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
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Do not err, my beloved brethren.
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Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
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For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
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Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
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But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
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For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
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For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
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But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

galations chapter 5,7

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
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As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Man/Woman have the free gift of salvation threw our lord jesus christ.Once they believe they start to producing fruit,This is scriptural.
We uphold a standard.
1st john chapter 4,4

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
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They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
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We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
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Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
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He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
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Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
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Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

Are these not commandments to us?
John chapter 21,
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He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.




John chapter 14,
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Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
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Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
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And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
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If ye love me, keep my commandments.


I think this is very clear;Hear the words of our Lord

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He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
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Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
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He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.


You will barley ever see me write anything in my own words
For i can do nothing of myself
Love a friend in God
 
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Baptistrw

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I have absolute confidence in my salvation.
 
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carpetmanswife

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yep im sure, no need to ask anyone if i am or have anyone tell me in not.
 
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roaringkitten

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Are you sure of your salvation?

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13

What a blessed assurance from God!!!!=)
 
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christiancanadian

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We are saved by God's grace alone. Once a person sincerely believes in Jesus Christ and accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, they are saved. Salvation has nothing to do with works, it's all about what Jesus did for us on the cross. He paid for our past, present, and future sins in full. How did he pay? With his blood. When we believe that God the father sent his son Jesus to pay for our sins-they are wiped clean. We then receive the Holy Spirit within us..literally. In the past I've tried to clean up my sins with my own will power, only to fail more miserably then before! The key is to totally trust and rely on Jesus to begin cleaning up your life and then over time you will start to show outward signs of bearing fruit. As far as you mentioning the devil, I have no doubt that he trys to take our assurance away. Think of it this way: If your in a battle and they take your weapon away, your not going to feel very confident are you? We are in a battle. And our assurance of salvation and trust in Jesus Christ is our weapon. The devil is well aware that if he causes doubt in salvation, it's going to send that person into a temporary quagmire, and they'll be less effective to...SAVE OTHERS!

In Christ,
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This is the start of the covenant,Once a man/woman has accepted the words of christ(believes this)They are held to a standard what?

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Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
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Do not err, my beloved brethren.
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do not err my brethren this is before salvation look at this one and please don't be deceived:



Joh 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into CONDEMNATION; but is passed from death unto life.
 
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no understanding your point here thaddaeus


Love a friend in God
 

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Just a Thought,

If God is going to yank His salvation from us when we sin without repentance, then the purpose of the cross has ceased and we are on our own with a Holy God. There would be no reason for Christ to come and put away our sin, because to recieve and maintain salvation would be dependant on our own ability to keep ourselves from sin. Can anyone do that?
 
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Baptistrw

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Exactly BLC. It's an absurd concept that salvation is not by works to receive but works are necessary to maintain it. It makes grace pointless.
 
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no understanding your point here thaddaeus


Love a friend in God
Joh 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into CONDEMNation; but is passed from death unto life.




well this is another thread about our salvation, if we are saved and there is NOW no condemnation for those that have heard the word and believe, then how many times does God have to tell us that salvation is by faith, so if we believe on God why would we doubt our salvation, this thread itself is wrong for we should not raise a question about someone's elses salvation or cause someone to doubt, for doubt should not be in the definition of faith, if you doubt there is no faith. note here that simpling believing that, there is a God is totally diferent than believing on God.


Ro 10:8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;Ro 10:9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.Ro 10:10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.Ro 10:11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.Ro 10:12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.Ro 10:13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


Just as to call someone Lord is different than to call upon the Name of the Lord , if we believe on God then we believe what He says; salvation by faith not of works, if we call upon the name of the Lord then we are saying we need Him for something, sinced being saved is the contents then we call upon the name of the Lord cause we need Him for our salvation, then there is nothing we can do to obtain our salvation, except What God said ( cause we believe on God we trust Him ) and we use the measure of faith,rom. 12:3, that He gave every man, and see we didn't even have enough faith, God had to give us that , but we as man have to believe that we must do something for our salvation, But to believe on God, faith in Jesus Christ, totally on God and in Jesus not of ourself least we Boast. look at the confess part does not say confess our sins , but rather confess with thy mouth (make it public) that He is now Lord of your life( and if we call upon Him as Lord we obtain salvation , but now we need to make Him Lord). so let me show you how I know that I am saved.

I have concessed with my mouth the Lord Jesus and I believe with my heart that God raised Him from The dead .

NOW I ALSO BELIEVE ON GOD WHEN HE SAYS THAT NOW THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR ME, SO WHY WOULD I DOUBT GOD OR SHOULD I LISTEN TO MAN THATS SAYS I CAN WALK AWAY FROM MY SALVATION OR TO GOD THAT THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOE ME, ONCE AGAIN I WILL SAY:
Ac 4:19But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.


Eph 1:13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise,


HOW LONG DOES THIS SEAL LAST UNTIL WE SIN AS MAN SAYS OR UNTIL WE TURN FROM GOD AS MAN SAYS, OR DOES IT LAST AS LONG AS GOD SAYS ( ONCE AGAIN SORRY , BUT I AM GOING TO BELIEVE ON GOD WHEN HE SAYS :


Eph 4:30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED unto the day of redemption.


we often quote John 3:16 but fail to to 17 & 18
Joh 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.Joh 3:17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.Joh 3:18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

man twisted God's word and say believe and work, God says believe, the man on the cross beside Jesus had no works after He believed. BUt Jesus promised himthat he would be with Jesus that day, didn't tell him to get down and go do some great work , or join a church , or get baptized, if he had needed these things then Jesus could have allowed him to live long enough to get what he needed for his salvation but he didn't need these things he had what he needed, God had prepared it for him, that measure of faith.
 
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worldlover

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For me, salvation is not an issue for me because my mind set is this:"God shall judge me" which means whatever sins i do i always bear in mind that from all the sins that i've done, i'll always learn from it and just be a better man tomorrow and be a good follower of Christ. Just focus on what you think is right and wrong:]
 
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carpetmanswife

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People that live their life with a reverence and caution of loosing their salvation should be respected in that and left alone to walk that out with the Lord.
thats right merry :)
 

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People that live their life with a reverence and caution of loosing their salvation should be respected in that and left alone to walk that out with the Lord.
If there is no fear involved and they are open to being instructed and taught sound doctrine by those that labor in the word and doctrine, then the Holy Spirit will be able to guide them into that truth as well as all truth. But they must be taught. If fear is involved then they need to know that the LORD has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love and a sound mind (1Tim 1:7). Sound doctrine taught in the spirit of love will always produce a sound mind.
 
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carpetmanswife

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belief in either 'once saved always saved' or not...doesnt matter, that doesnt change a persons spiritual status at all its Christ and Him crucified THATS what matters.
 
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