Baptismal Regeneration of Infants

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Baptismal Regeneration of infants

  • Yes it is valid

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  • No it is not valid

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bondservant

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Vernon please read whole text
 
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sltaylor

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No, when Adam sinned, it changed mankind. Even King David alluded to this in Psalm 51:5. God gave the prophecy in Ez 36:25-27 the baptism that cleanses sins. There is no mention that an infant needs belief since that is not what baptism is for. Ya'll have turned this into a man made doctrine excluding the whole meaning of baptism
What? The whole meaning behind baptism was repent and you will be saved. Are you denying the fact that John himself said repent and be saved?
 
Nov 14, 2012
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What? The whole meaning behind baptism was repent and you will be saved.
Gonna have to agree to disagree, if you can't accept scripture for this sin we are cleansed from through baptism, i can't help you
 
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bondservant

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Direct wow what a love for truth you could kill about 100 with that love
 
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sltaylor

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Gonna have to agree to disagree, if you can't accept scripture for this sin we are cleansed from through baptism, i can't help you
What sin? Does scripture declare we are held accountable to adams sin, or does it declare that each man will answer for what he has done, whether good or bad?

And yet again you avoid the whole point of this debate. Was it a baptism of repentance, yes or no?
 
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Gonna have to agree to disagree, if you can't accept scripture for this sin we are cleansed from through baptism, i can't help you
you can't help anyone. remember? heresy (everything rcc) is bad. no good thing comes from it.
 

ArtsieSteph

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The Bible says that no man comes through Heaven lest he be born again. Now a person can't make the decision to accept Christ into their heart as an infant. Baby baptismal is just more of a tradition, and there's nothing wrong with dedicating a baby. Like praying for them and showing them to the church, hoping they'll someday come to Christ. But it's not regeneration unless the person makes the decision to do so.

That being said, teeny tiny kids can be saved. They realize they need Jesus, they make the decision. My Pastor was saved at 5. The Holy Spirit can work in many little ones
 
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What sin? Does scripture declare we are held accountable to adams sin, or does it declare that each man will answer for what he has done, whether good or bad?

And yet again you avoid the whole point of this debate. Was it a baptism of repentance, yes or no?
Psalm 51:5. What sin could David have possibly commited in the womb? Really? Romans 5:12-21, Adams sin that stained us all. Yeah, it was that bad! 1 Cor 15:21-22 Adam's sin!!!! Baptism removes this sin! Ez 36:25-27. This waiting until the so-called age of consentment or some outer demonstration, which is man made, is dangerous and twists the scriptures to exclude children. I have already shown that we all have this sin that needs to be cleansed. All you have done is make fun of infants
 
Nov 14, 2012
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you can't help anyone. remember? heresy (everything rcc) is bad. no good thing comes from it.
Ok, can you show me the scripture that forbids infant baptism? Just one scripture?
 
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you can't help anyone. remember? heresy (everything rcc) is bad. no good thing comes from it.
Would really like some scripture this time instead of you calling me a heretic
 
Dec 26, 2014
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Would really like some scripture this time instead of you calling me a heretic
you chose to trust heresy, repeatedly. when Scripture was available/ posted/ by anyone, you

believed and said so what your parish / the pope says it says/ instead of what it says --

as yahweh says, everyone who trusts the heresy HE curses (even if they are not in the rcc; anyone who trusts man or what the rcc stands for is cursed by yahweh directly).

you love your parish. your parish is evil, heretical, antichrist. jesus would set you free, but like many others
you're not willing.
 
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The Bible says that no man comes through Heaven lest he be born again. Now a person can't make the decision to accept Christ into their heart as an infant. Baby baptismal is just more of a tradition, and there's nothing wrong with dedicating a baby. Like praying for them and showing them to the church, hoping they'll someday come to Christ. But it's not regeneration unless the person makes the decision to do so.

That being said, teeny tiny kids can be saved. They realize they need Jesus, they make the decision. My Pastor was saved at 5. The Holy Spirit can work in many little ones
In my church it is not a dedication, it for the cleansing of adam's sin. Dedication is a Jewish practice and that is not what baptism is for
 
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you chose to trust heresy, repeatedly. when Scripture was available/ posted/ by anyone, you

believed and said so what your parish / the pope says it says/ instead of what it says --

as yahweh says, everyone who trusts the heresy HE curses (even if they are not in the rcc; anyone who trusts man or what the rcc stands for is cursed by yahweh directly).

you love your parish. your parish is evil, heretical, antichrist. jesus would set you free, but like many others
you're not willing.
Yeah..........still waiting for some scripture, which you dont have, but insults you have aplenty
 
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bondservant

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Saints...Saints...Saints... please stop the scripture wars read up on baptism the Jews before Christ baptised John baptised Jesus was baptised by John Jesus never baptised...you grieve the holy spirit when you argue like this. Jesus was talking to the apostle s when he said suffer the little children to come to him because they forbid them because of the culture of the day. Then Jesus said suffer or permit these little ones to come to him for such is the kingdom of heaven. We are to approach God as a child approaches his father in need and reverent respect but trusting. What is this to do with baptism?
 
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Yeah..........still waiting for some scripture, which you dont have, but insults you have aplenty
in your previous post, directly, you trampled on Scripture (so to speak), speaking in cursed error what "your church" deceived you with.

and so you do always, and jesus says not to throw pearls to the dogs, nor cast them to the swine to be trampled..... the rcc cannot correctly understand any scripture, as the rcc is heresy, and is cursed,

and the rcc has doomed billions of souls that it deceived.... only if you turn to jesus instead of idols and deception is there any hope for you at all ---

no amount of study, tradition, scripture, or truth, even from jesus, can help you otherwise (i.e. as long as you love that which is inherently evil) .
 
Nov 14, 2012
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in your previous post, directly, you trampled on Scripture (so to speak), speaking in cursed error what "your church" deceived you with.

and so you do always, and jesus says not to throw pearls to the dogs, nor cast them to the swine to be trampled..... the rcc cannot correctly understand any scripture, as the rcc is heresy, and is cursed,

and the rcc has doomed billions of souls that it deceived.... only if you turn to jesus instead of idols and deception is there any hope for you at all ---

no amount of study, tradition, scripture, or truth, even from jesus, can help you otherwise (i.e. as long as you love that which is inherently evil) .
Yeah.......still no scripture just the same old stuff you have been brainwashed with
 
Dec 26, 2014
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Yeah..........still waiting for some scripture, which you dont have, but insults you have aplenty
as long as you propogate the evil of rcc traditions, practice, doctrines or catechism (all heresy, evil from the core)
then you are worse than a nazi gestapo perp. far worse and more dangerous because of souls destroyed by the rcc heresy for 2000 years.. and millions of saints , jews and gentiles, executed by order of the pope.
 
Nov 14, 2012
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in your previous post, directly, you trampled on Scripture (so to speak), speaking in cursed error what "your church" deceived you with.

and so you do always, and jesus says not to throw pearls to the dogs, nor cast them to the swine to be trampled..... the rcc cannot correctly understand any scripture, as the rcc is heresy, and is cursed,

and the rcc has doomed billions of souls that it deceived.... only if you turn to jesus instead of idols and deception is there any hope for you at all ---

no amount of study, tradition, scripture, or truth, even from jesus, can help you otherwise (i.e. as long as you love that which is inherently evil) .
And here all along I thought God's Word was the final opinion! I guess you think your word is the final opinion
 
Dec 26, 2014
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Yeah.......still no scripture just the same old stuff you have been brainwashed with
so, you think RoboOp is brainwashed too then.... and all the admins. you are on their site, and they declared rcc is heresy with no question or discussion needed.

all of the saints (followers of jesus) recognize rcc is demonic.
 
Nov 14, 2012
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as long as you propogate the evil of rcc traditions, practice, doctrines or catechism (all heresy, evil from the core)
then you are worse than a nazi gestapo perp. far worse and more dangerous because of souls destroyed by the rcc heresy for 2000 years.. and millions of saints , jews and gentiles, executed by order of the pope.
Oh my!!!!! Do you really think you speak for Christ? Wow, i think i did say at some point you need to seek proffesional help