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The Christian term "Born-again" came from one book only and maybe million of Bible teacher and preacher explained it in the radio, TV, and reading materials.Yet up to now it seems many have conflicting understanding on this term "Born-again." This term is spiritual in nature and only spiritual Christians will understand it clearly. A prerequisite to understanding is having faith in the Bible teaching about the nature of man. Man is a spirit, soul, and body. When Adam and Eve sinned, the Holy Spirit left their spirit or was vacant. Their spirit is technically dead. Their spirit remains intact but useless.

When a person who heard the good news of salvation and accepted the Lord Jesus Christ in life, the Holy Spirit enter and reside in their spirit, hence "Born-again." re: the Book of Romans. The spirit of the man is sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will only depart at the time of death. The dead person's spirit and the Holy Spirit will return to God (Pls. see Ecclesiates) So a Born-again person will remain Born-again throughout the life on this world. But the Bible says the Holy Spirit can be quenched and grieved. The Holy Spirit resides in the spirit but binded and cannot exercise His power. This is the reason why many can't understand the teaching about being "Born-again" because the Holy Spirit is grieved or quenched. Give the honor to our God and Savior Jesus Christ for this revelation.
 
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You confuse the spiritual body with life. Just as the flesh does not have eternal life, neither does the spiritual body have life, but rather is the vessel which eternal life will inhabit. For now, we have this precious gift in frail vessels, that is, in our flesh.

In addition, you confuse the resurrection with life. I wonder just who Jesus will say is calling Him a liar?

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. No body is born of the Spirit.
 
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BestBeWishing

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Do you not know we have two bodys now, a Flesh Body that will die

and a Spirit Body that will continu to heaven for Judgement

I'm not confussed my Brother

we are in a test time of our Fathers plan.
7,000 year, 6,000 thousand our Father has gave to Satan,

Our Father will take a Day to teach again.he will open the books, and ask how that worked for Ya?

and then turn the wicked one back out with no power.

in witch you will stand and say is this the one that confussed so many

In Jesus Christ our Lord has spoken Then, "in his words" not mine, Ye must be Born Again

His words," Flesh and Blood can not enter"

Our Father is working with his children, So as many that have eye's to See wont be Lost.

He come to show us the way, Did he not Die in the Flesh as we will????

Fear not your First Death of the Flesh, Seek the Kingdom!!!!!!

when we become a Christain by acepting Jesus and repenting "we become a new creation"
(A Christain)

When we die of the flesh as a Christain, we are then a REBORN CHRISTAIN, and can enter for

Jugment, Repent of all your sins, and recieve your rewards,

I would incorage ever-one to start a the begining of this Post, and read it all again.

Then look for your selfs, Scripture tells us Many will be Decieved, Thats how well Satan works "thats the

Mark of the Beast" in Christains to turn scripture to mean something thats not Jesus teachings. thierfor

recieveing the Mark, its not 666 tatooed on you forhead, its whats in your mined what your thinking.

Its not a computer chip put in your hand, its the work you are doing. it is the mark of the beast.

Lets do this by listening to Jesus and learning something here!!!!

Jesus words are: Ye Must be Born again

Jesus words are: Flesh and Blood can-not see the Kingdom of God

So lets hear from the Mark of the Beast again,

Ya,ll that caint hear, stab-yourselfs

if ya Bleed Blood

Then dont write back with no smoke

and call our Heavenly Brother a liar no more.

Repent and ask for the blinders to removed for your-selfs

I will re-buke all that call Jesus a liar

We are in a spritial battel, The word of our Father is like a sword allright,

Deal with it, and re-pent

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VW said:
You confuse the spiritual body with life. Just as the flesh does not have eternal life, neither does the spiritual body have life, but rather is the vessel which eternal life will inhabit. For now, we have this precious gift in frail vessels, that is, in our flesh.

In addition, you confuse the resurrection with life. I wonder just who Jesus will say is calling Him a liar?

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. No body is born of the Spirit.
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Did not Jesus say "witch you just posted" that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit.

Then you say No Body is born of the Spirit

Hummmmm

I wonder just who Jesus will say is calling Him a liar as well ?

Jesus says Ye-must be Re-Born

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Shwagga said:
Are you saying I am using scripture to confuse you?
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Actually, he is saying that the devil has and is using scripture to confuse you, and me, and most everyone else on this group, and most of all christians.
 
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Shwagga said:
Are you saying I am using scripture to confuse you?
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LOL not at all , you caint confuss me,nor does Satan, Chose your side,

Jesus tells us in his words

Ye must be Re Born

Do you think he's a liar as well??

When you have the Seals of God in your head,you know whats up!!! thats the Keys of David where no one can shut the door, Honk, Honk,

The only one that took the scroll from our Father that was worthy was our Heavenly Brother Jesus.

the very first Seal Jesus rip open was our warning that the Antichrist comes first, dont be decieved,
many will come in my image, claiming my words, but dont believe them I did'nt send them,. you will know them by thier works!!!!


if its not in the words of Jesus, then who you think it is,

Jesus says Flesh and Blood caint enter the Kingdom ,

Ye must be Re-Born to your Spirit, to enter the Kingdom

The seals of God, the Mark of the Beast,

you going with what Jesus says are what man is teaching??

your choice, thats free will Brother

"In His Service"
 
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Wootie said:
When I gave my life to God the old me died-not my physical body, therefore I was reborn a new creation in Christ. Resurrection sounds like a physical restoration of life and not a spiritual renewing to me.
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Hi Wootie,

Yes...I'm in complete accord with all your views. You really nailed this one down flat.
Right to the point.

- KayCee
 
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VW said:
Actually, he is saying that the devil has and is using scripture to confuse you, and me, and most everyone else on this group, and most of all christians.
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Bingo!!! Many will be Decieved,

Its no big deal, Our Father is working, the main one to know, is on 666 the Antichrist comes claiming to be Jesus, Will decieve many, dont belieave them, when they say here is Christ. Satan snapping his fingers and fire coming from the clouds in the SIGHT OF MEN.

Jesus comes on 777, in the twinkel, Honk, Honk,

Then those of us that have not allready died of the flesh, will be Killed,by fire, the Sun, "smile"
Our Father will clean up the Earth at that time with the Sun,

Going to Boil the water's slap out of the Oceans, all roads and buildings railroad trains, trucks, citys,everything will go bye bye, Honk Honk,

Then start all over again the thrid earth age Heaven right here on Earth.

"In His Service"
 
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Bingo!!! Many will be Decieved,

Its no big deal, Our Father is working, the main one to know, is on 666 the Antichrist comes claiming to be Jesus, Will decieve many, dont belieave them, when they say here is Christ. Satan snapping his fingers and fire coming from the clouds in the SIGHT OF MEN.

Jesus comes on 777, in the twinkel, Honk, Honk,

Then those of us that have not allready died of the flesh, will be Killed,by fire, the Sun, "smile"
Our Father will clean up the Earth at that time with the Sun,

Going to Boil the water's slap out of the Oceans, all roads and buildings railroad trains, trucks, citys,everything will go bye bye, Honk Honk,

Then start all over again the thrid earth age Heaven right here on Earth.

"In His Service"
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You can live on the earth in the "third" (?) age, heaven on earth.

Me, I will live in, actually I will be part of the new city which comes down from heaven, New Jerusalem. This is where God will dwell forever and ever. That is where I want to be.
 
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Oh Nice!!! The temple Love it, well your going to miss a great part of the third earth age,

But every-one will be seeing you on the sabbath when we come to worship and eat from the tree of life,

Gods going to make this whole earth his Kingdom, others will be liven all over it, its a shame you wont spend anytime out side the Temple, There wont be any north or south poles where its xstremly cold, thier will be rose gardens in all the deserts as we know them now, and the Oceans will be vast gardens with water-falls,

anyway we have to make it thur Pardise first dont we!!!!

Hey VW if thats where you say you will be, do you know about, it the Temple? Lets move to a new thread, start one, You be suprised at the Christains thats never heard of it, I was maybe thinking about starting one on the spirit of the stupper!!!

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BestBeWishing said:
Oh Nice!!! The temple Love it, well your going to miss a great part of the third earth age,

But every-one will be seeing you on the sabbath when we come to worship and eat from the tree of life,

Gods going to make this whole earth his Kingdom, others will be liven all over it, its a shame you wont spend anytime out side the Temple, There wont be any north or south poles where its xstremly cold, thier will be rose gardens in all the deserts as we know them now, and the Oceans will be vast gardens with water-falls,

anyway we have to make it thur Pardise first dont we!!!!

Hey VW if thats where you say you will be, do you know about, it the Temple? Lets move to a new thread, start one, You be suprised at the Christains thats never heard of it, I was maybe thinking about starting one on the spirit of the stupper!!!

"In His Service"
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Not the temple, but the new city Jerusalem. And the tree of life will be there, along with the throne of God, and His servants will live there, and they shall see Him, and they shall have His name written in their forehead.

You are talking about the 1000 year reign of Jesus in this world. He will have a throne here, in the temple. There are lots of prophecies about that time.

I don't think that we do have to make it through paradise first. I believe that when Jesus said that He is the life and the resurrection that He was talking about two very different things. I have life in Him now, and I am not waiting for the resurrection.
 
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Re: Born again Christian
Jesus tell us in John 3:3 we can not see the Kingdom till we become Born Again.

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

and so you Christains that believe in your flesh bodys your all-ready born again,

Please tell me and the others ( Whats the Kingdom Like)???????
Please tell us (what ya'll see)??????????

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

We can not enter into the Kingdom in the Flesh.

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Hope this helps Ya'll
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The Kingdom of God is wonderful! My Lord talks to me. One time He sent glory clouds to mu house. My house was filled up to my chest with clouds from heaven. He was knocking from heaven but the knocks were normal sounds. They were big and filled up the house. Then He sent a angel to my door.

One time I was reading my bible and He sent a little cloud which floated from one side of the room to by me.

He has let me see Him different times.

I feel angels around me lots.

Tell me your wonderful treasures you get from dening the words in the book of my Lord?

These I tell you are only treasures I get while I'm on earth. The point the book is trying to make to you is that if you are not born again on this earth you will not see heaven. I pray you repent!
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Praise the Lord! Your starting to read out of the KJV.;)
 
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BestBeWishing said:
LOL not at all , you caint confuss me,nor does Satan, Chose your side,

Jesus tells us in his words

Ye must be Re Born

Do you think he's a liar as well??

When you have the Seals of God in your head,you know whats up!!! thats the Keys of David where no one can shut the door, Honk, Honk,

The only one that took the scroll from our Father that was worthy was our Heavenly Brother Jesus.

the very first Seal Jesus rip open was our warning that the Antichrist comes first, dont be decieved,
many will come in my image, claiming my words, but dont believe them I did'nt send them,. you will know them by thier works!!!!


if its not in the words of Jesus, then who you think it is,

Jesus says Flesh and Blood caint enter the Kingdom ,

Ye must be Re-Born to your Spirit, to enter the Kingdom

The seals of God, the Mark of the Beast,

you going with what Jesus says are what man is teaching??

your choice, thats free will Brother

"In His Service"
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From what I understand born again means to be born of the Spirit. When you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, you are baptized in the spirit. A couple of defenitions of baptize is : to imerse, and to overwhelm. You are immersed into the Body of Christ and your body becomes the temple of the Holy Ghost. You are therefore born again and you will not taste the second death, because you have just died already; died to the flesh. Absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8b

The Bible says that you will know them by their fruits. Matt. 7:16. Sometime after I became save I picked up the Bible and read the works of the flesh. And it struck me that before I had become saved I had about every last one of them, then I seen the fruits of the Spirit and I noticed that I had those now. Now because I am in the flesh still some times are flesh still gets in the way, but if we do sin the Spirit is there to convict us of it. That is why when you see a person sin with no guilt you have to wander if they were ever born again, because the Bible says.......For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scorgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Hebrews 12:6-7
 
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HumbleSaint said:
From what I understand born again means to be born of the Spirit. When you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, you are baptized in the spirit. A couple of defenitions of baptize is : to imerse, and to overwhelm. You are immersed into the Body of Christ and your body becomes the temple of the Holy Ghost. You are therefore born again and you will not taste the second death, because you have just died already; died to the flesh. Absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8b

The Bible says that you will know them by their fruits. Matt. 7:16. Sometime after I became save I picked up the Bible and read the works of the flesh. And it struck me that before I had become saved I had about every last one of them, then I seen the fruits of the Spirit and I noticed that I had those now. Now because I am in the flesh still some times are flesh still gets in the way, but if we do sin the Spirit is there to convict us of it. That is why when you see a person sin with no guilt you have to wander if they were ever born again, because the Bible says.......For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scorgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Hebrews 12:6-7
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From what I understand born again means to be born of the Spirit.

(Thats what I think it means as well, But I believe, and would hope that other's would hear what the Spirit is Saying,
"Ye must be reborn", nowwww lets let that sound come in that right ear! dont listen to what man has said Receive the holy spirit, go back to Scripture, now listen in that right ear, Flesh and Blood can-not enterrrrr,
and dont forget we are talking about entering the Kingdom in the Third Earth age, Ye must be Re-born to a Spirit Body, You had that Body in the First earth age,

Again, this is Scripture,Its in Gods letter to us the Bible, Dont-cha read it??

"In His Service"
 
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For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.

God is in heaven, and our lives are hidden with Christ in God.

See how great a love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are the children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that, when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him just as He is.

Now we are the children of God, not on some day in the by and by.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. But this you know the Spirit of God; every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, adn the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Jesus came in the flesh. This is very important to understand, because He did not give up His place in the kingdom of heaven to take on flesh and come among us. And He came to give us life and that more abundantly. I have written over and over again that life and resurrection are not the same thing. And Jesus is both.
 
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VW said:
For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.

God is in heaven, and our lives are hidden with Christ in God.

See how great a love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are the children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that, when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him just as He is.

Now we are the children of God, not on some day in the by and by.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. But this you know the Spirit of God; every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, adn the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Jesus came in the flesh. This is very important to understand, because He did not give up His place in the kingdom of heaven to take on flesh and come among us. And He came to give us life and that more abundantly. I have written over and over again that life and resurrection are not the same thing. And Jesus is both.
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VW your right Sir, I got so fixed on the Reserrection part, I must have been blinded,to what you was saying, Our Father knows your works, The Spirit of the Stupper is strong, I think its great for the reading,and your Labor is not un-noticed!!!!

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BestBeWishing said:
Oh I see!!! Every thing in the shed but "this is what its like"???? There has been scriptures given to all in the matter, to all that can see, its clear with ever response!!!

Jesus words are clear, Ye must be Re-Born to enter the Kingdom

Our heavnly brother tells us in his words NO FLESH and Blood can Enter

So if ya'll want to blow smoke, and tell others that Jesus is out of square,

If you are allready reborn in the flesh "like so many think here in this form" Then when you die yall must be just dead, no re-nothin in ya'lls mined,

When we recieve the holy spirit, are we not in the Flesh??

But we still caint enter the kingdom folks,

Jesus words are clear, Ye must be Re-Born to enter the Kingdom

Our heavnly brother tells us in his words NO FLESH and Blood can Enter

I'm rebuken all out of square respones. Dont say to me Jesus is a liar
Ye must be Re-Born

"In His Service"
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Just because you quote scripture does not mean that you understand it or are applying it honorably.
 
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"Just because you quote scripture does not mean that you understand it or are applying it honorably"

You are right to say this me, I'm really not applying it honorably, or eles I wouldnt feel so sick to my stomic still, and I need forgiveness.

"In His Service"
 
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Is this really a War??

To my Brothers and Sisters ,

I need to to let Ya,ll know I didnt mean to Blast anyone,

The way we all understand Scripture, is not the same.

Sorry I dont try to sugar coat what the word " Scripture" is Saying
and Yes what I think it means.

This is why I'm here for, To show a differnt side, I'm a Christain and beleave in Jesus,

I started this Thread because of How differnt I knew Christains view this Topic!

In doing So, I would hope it has opened eyes,

Like so many here that Love the Lord, I want to understand more about what other Christains beleave.

Why do I read Scripture so differant than other Christains, and does it really matter??

Is this all about the Antichrist, could Satan really be stealing Souls from Christains,

I feel like I'm at right spot, But I'm done responding to this Thread "Born Again Christain"

God bless everone for taken a look at and Responding to.

Now my new Thread is "Is this really a War"

Prepare for Battel
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