Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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GraceAndTruth

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Here is what I believe, and am totally unshakable in these truths
Doctrines of Grace or TULIP
T - total depravity of man
U - Unconditional election of the saints
L - Limited atonement
I - Irresistable Grace
P - preservation of the saints (once saved always saved.

the 5 Solas
sola scriptura the bible alone as our only source for faith and morals
sola gratia grace alone
sola fide faith alone
sola Christos Christ alone
soli deo gloria glory to God alone

The ONE true God eternally exists as three distinct Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal, co-eternal, and one in essence.

and in the eschatology of Amillianism
 

GraceAndTruth

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well lets see......ahhhh...NOT everybody IS saved. Some pots were MADE FOR destruction, some for Glory...hmmmm Romans 9
 

ForestGreenCook

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What about if they are the chosen few?
You have that wrong too. The elect is so great an amount that they can not be numbered (Gen 32:12). God is talking to Jacob, who he changed his name to be called Israel, (Gen 32:28), saying I will surly do you good and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. The strait gate in Matt 5 is not talking about leading to eternal life, but to the abundant life that those of his elect have that have been revealed the truths of Jesus's doctrine. The wide gate are also the elect of God who have not been revealed the truth because they are going about to establish their own righteousness by their works. The people going in both gates are God's elect and will all go to heaven because Christ died for them.
 

Hevosmies

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The people going in both gates are God's elect and will all go to heaven because Christ died for them.
This is just major false doctrine. WOW.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Jesus just destroyed your false teaching there.
Stop teaching that immediately.
 

UnderGrace

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You have that wrong too. The elect is so great an amount that they can not be numbered (Gen 32:12). God is talking to Jacob, who he changed his name to be called Israel, (Gen 32:28), saying I will surly do you good and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. The strait gate in Matt 5 is not talking about leading to eternal life, but to the abundant life that those of his elect have that have been revealed the truths of Jesus's doctrine. The wide gate are also the elect of God who have not been revealed the truth because they are going about to establish their own righteousness by their works. The people going in both gates are God's elect and will all go to heaven because Christ died for them.
Where is this teaching from, did you come up with it yourself?
 

Dino246

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Yet another "Let's bash each other and pretend we're discussing doctrine" thread. Like it was needed.

Oy vey...
 
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This is just major false doctrine. WOW.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Jesus just destroyed your false teaching there.
Stop teaching that immediately.
Well yea, he believes that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses can be among the elect. And it doesn't matter if they deceive the masses and convert them to their cults because they aren't the elect any way . . . so who cares? It's all going to turn out the same in the end.

Yea, their god has his little playthings to do with however he sees fit. You'd expect nothing less from the god of this world (II Corinthians 4:4).

Heck, I believe they even think that some ISIS members are elect also . . . and heck, they are just cutting off the heads of non-elect infidels.
 

UnderGrace

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Well yea, he believes that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses can be among the elect. And it doesn't matter if they deceive the masses and convert them to their cults because they aren't the elect any way . . . so who cares? It's all going to turn out the same in the end.

Yea, their god has his little playthings to do with however he sees fit. You'd expect nothing less from the god of this world (II Corinthians 4:4).

Heck, I believe they even think that some ISIS members are elect also . . . and heck, they are just cutting off the heads of non-elect infidels.
Deception is a problem :(

Been there done that.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Where is this teaching from, did you come up with it yourself?
I do not reference any mans writings, but believe the scriptures do prove themselves without contradictions. I am a firm believer that a man cannot understand the scriptures when they rely upon their intellect. When they deny themselves before God and give up on their own understanding then I believe that the Holy Ghost within them will reveal truths to them.
 

UnderGrace

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I do not reference any mans writings, but believe the scriptures do prove themselves without contradictions. I am a firm believer that a man cannot understand the scriptures when they rely upon their intellect. When they deny themselves before God and give up on their own understanding then I believe that the Holy Ghost within them will reveal truths to them.
Yes, but I have never read any other person give this interpretation of the narrow and broad path, so would seem to me that the Holy Spirit would reveal this to others and I would have come across it somewhere?