can God set me free or "accountability" the answer ? behavior modifcation

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CS1

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As I study the word of God , I do not see the word "accountability" in it. Now the concept is there

Gal 6:1-5
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor. For each will have to bear his own load.

Prov 27:17
Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.


This concept has taken a humanistic teaching that has crept into the ministry of deliverance and restoration. Known as

"Behavior Modification".

1.the alteration of behavioral patterns through the use of such learning techniques as biofeedback and positive or negative reinforcement.
2. another term for behavior therapy.


Is this Biblical?

Can these self-help reinforcements achieve victory ? One normative I have seen and learned from theses kinds of programs are one, if you are a alcoholic you are always one, or addicted to porn you sit in a circle with other men who say there name followed by " I am an alcoholic, addicted to porn, etc...
Christ centered counseling comes from the word of God . will spiritual growth needed by men who are griped by sin come by simply sitting in a circle
talking about their struggles with other struggling men? Will the head knowledge be enough?

Behavior Modification is a weak humanistic version of biblical transformation . There is a liberty available for those addicted to sex, drugs, alcohol , porn. it is not feeble, nor shallow; rather it is deeply penetrating and all-encompassing.

This kind of change only requires brokenness and repentance - The Biblical solution for those who are in habitual sin.

The maintenance program :

this common program deals with many with addictions. They advocate once a man has an addiction to a sin/vice no matter what it is he will always be an addict. This mentality is pervasive in many support groups . they confess that they are what ever is the addiction is they are. 6 years , 7 years they have been going to these groups still have the issue but at lower level of sin that is more manageable . They are expected to identify with the addiction or past sin. Are we to do that? Not only that but you need to attend the group for the rest of your life as the primary source of recovery.

He is a loser , an must keep that in the forefront of his mind. If not he will return to the former lifestyle of sin completely. If you could do this self-help group program how does God do it if you are the primary source ?

That does not sound like freedom to me.

Jesus said I have come to set the captive Free Luke 4:18 , open prison doors .
John 8:36 says Whom the Son has set free is Free indeed.
He has come to set at liberty them which are bound

it starts with repentance and asking God to change your heart. It is Pursuing HIM with you whole heart and trusting HIM to set you free by HIS Power.

There will be more :)
 
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theanointedsinner

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He is a loser , an must keep that in the forefront of his mind. <-- I hope people can see the utter weakness of this, satan can tempt with promise of being a winner, or a relief from the mindset of being a loser, and the victim would "cave in"
 

CS1

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He is a loser , an must keep that in the forefront of his mind. <-- I hope people can see the utter weakness of this, satan can tempt with promise of being a winner, or a relief from the mindset of being a loser, and the victim would "cave in"
please clarify what you mean ? I do not want to misunderstand your point?
 
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theanointedsinner

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please clarify what you mean ? I do not want to misunderstand your point?
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking in whom he may devour. (1 Peter 5:8)

people with low self-esteem is easy prey for the Devil, therefore, the accountability system that reinforces low self-esteem is ultimately self-defeating
 
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thanks CS1,

we have your back!!!

yeah, this site is really a learning and growing process, and one that teaches us NOT
to take 'offence', but to 'learn' from what the 'world' is constantly 'teaching' us
about how thing are coming down... sad, but oh so true...
 

CS1

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Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking in whom he may devour. (1 Peter 5:8)

people with low self-esteem is easy prey for the Devil, therefore, the accountability system that reinforces low self-esteem is ultimately self-defeating
Oh ok I see your point . Thank you for your input
 

Chester

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Agreed that repentance, confession, and brokenness are keys to change.

I think that these are best done with others - that is - trying to repent and change your behavior by yourself usually does not work. We need other people to speak into our lives and walk with us.
 
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Miri

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“As a man thinks”

Only Jesus can really change a person’s thinking.
Be not conformed to the world but be transformed by the
renewing of the mind.

Having said that certain things do help like CBT which challenges
the way you think. The bible is a massive study in CBT it challenges
people to change their thinking radically!
 

notuptome

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We call this sanctification. We are justified by the blood of Christ. We are sanctified by the continuing action of the Holy Spirit.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking in whom he may devour. (1 Peter 5:8)

people with low self-esteem is easy prey for the Devil, therefore, the accountability system that reinforces low self-esteem is ultimately self-defeating
Pride come before the fall. People with high self esteem fall victim to the god of this world through the three avenues thereof .

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of
the world.

We can learn from each other the b word. balance.

Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself ? Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time? It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this; yea, also from this withdraw not thine hand: for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all. Ecclessaiatics 7:16-18