Can we stop sinning?

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FlyingDove

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I'm curious... does sanctification lead to a cessation of sin? Is it possible for us to stop sinning?

While I have stopped pornography and masturbation myself... I have stopped sinning obviously, but I'm worried I'm still sinning in ways I haven't thought of yet.

So... my question is... is it possible for us to STOP sinning, with the help of God's spirit?

Thanks! :)
Does sanctification lead to a cessation of sin? YES!

Is it possible for us to stop sinning? NO!

While I have stopped pornography. claysmithr, Good decision this practice opens many doors into temptation.

And masturbation myself. HUH? Please provide the scripture on this!

Matt 5:
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee

Mar 9:45 And if your foot offends you, cut it off:

This is my opinion only:

If people have to poke out an eye or cut off a limb, every time they rub one out.

Every Church would look like a amputee ward in battle field mash unit. We'd have a bunch of blind brother & sister's limping around, lifting up & clapping their stumps together. Just saying...
 
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claysmithr

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#42
Does sanctification lead to a cessation of sin? YES!

And masturbation myself. HUH? Please provide the scripture on this!
Masturbation is wrong because of LUST.

Matthew 5:28 -
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
 
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#43
Does sanctification lead to a cessation of sin? YES!

Is it possible for us to stop sinning? NO!

While I have stopped pornography. claysmithr, Good decision this practice opens many doors into temptation.

And masturbation myself. HUH? Please provide the scripture on this!

Matt 5:
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee

Mar 9:45 And if your foot offends you, cut it off:

This is my opinion only:

If people have to poke out an eye or cut off a limb, every time they rub one out.

Every Church would look like a amputee ward in battle field mash unit. We'd have a bunch of blind brother & sister's limping around, lifting up & clapping their stumps together. Just saying...
Really? Using the Bible to justify sin isn't working for you.
 

MarcR

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#44
Really? Using the Bible to justify sin isn't working for you.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee

I don't think dove was trying to justify sin. I think he was trying to point out that amputation is at best a one time solution for sin and that there has to be a better way of dealing with it. We don't see many one armed or one eyed people in the churches.
 

KILTBOY

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#45
Joefizz. I believe I did answer the question with this comment.
"From all of these scriptures, it seems clear that God's desire is for His children to stop sinning."
 
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joefizz

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Joefizz. I believe I did answer the question with this comment.
"From all of these scriptures, it seems clear that God's desire is for His children to stop sinning."
That wasn't the Op's "question" you just used it as "an excuse" to post a whole lot of scripture to this member,and spout your doctrine which "none of it" answered his question.
That's very "inconsiderate" and "selfish".
 

Shamah

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Jan 6, 2018
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#47
I'm curious... does sanctification lead to a cessation of sin? Is it possible for us to stop sinning?

While I have stopped pornography and masturbation myself... I have stopped sinning obviously, but I'm worried I'm still sinning in ways I haven't thought of yet.

So... my question is... is it possible for us to STOP sinning, with the help of God's spirit?

Thanks! :)
I have gone for stints walking the right way, it is my belief that keeping Him on our minds and since we are physical beings poutting the things around us to prevent us from falling off the wagon and removing thins that would temp us to are keys.
 
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#48
Ok, so I shouldn't worry about sinning? Just bearing fruit/good works?
Focus on your right standing to GOD. and not so focused on sinning In the flesh,If you have been born of Incorruptible seed then you are sealed,Paul wrote,by the mercy of GOD present your body a living sacrifice so that you can prove the good,and acceptable,and perfect will of GOD.
 
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There are alot of good posts here and i have seen threads like this in the past. Romans chapter seven Paul deals with this issue very precisely clearly. The last verse, who will set me free from this body of death, Thanks be to God through Jesus. then he concludes with, so on the one hand, in my spirit i have the desire to do good yet in my flesh I do not have the ability to carry it out. This is why our flesh is condemned to death rot and decay and it will cease to exist and why our Soul and spirit will remain.

I have heard people argue, that if we have turned our hearts to God then the law has fulfilled its purpose, which was to make us aware of sin, and our need for a savior, and the method of salvation, which is blood sacrifice. It is true that once we turn to God and away from sin, we are reborn and become new creations in Christ SPIRITUALLY, but not physically, obviously. If the law no longer applies then we would be literally sinless, however this argument is invalid. God's law is eternal and always applies. Because of our flesh we will always sin while we have a fleshly body, which is why God has condemned our bodies, and they will return to dust. As paul wrote, if i agree with the law, then it is no longer i who sin but sin which indwells me. People love to argue these points but i consider such arguments useless.

The best posts I read here were ones that described our focus. From Colossians we know, "since then you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above where christ is seated at the right hand of God, set your minds on things above not on earthly things. Our focus must always be on God. Dont worry about sin, however again it is written, "do not worry about anything but in everything by prayer and petition with thanksgiving present your requests to God and the peace of God which transcends all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus." Lets not leave out another of my favorite verses, "Do not merely listen to the word and so deceive yourselves, do what it says," I would love to hear more preachers preach practicing the word of God. From my own experience with God, and him teaching me personally, God has shown me the power of confession. Say you have a sin you feel in bondage to? Whatever that sin is, you may feel like you have no control. ok. Commit yourself to confessing the sin every time you practice it. And i dont mean confess to God, as so many people think that is the only confession that matters. Select a group of people prayerfully, and every time you practice a sin you have bondage to, confess it to this group, one at a time over and over. What happens is, when you are tempted again, you eventually realize, you will have to confess again, and the fact that you will confess, gives you power over the sin.
I was forced into addiction, slavery and bondage as a four year old boy. I had when i last counted no less than 11 different addictions, which is just another word for bondage. I have today been free from all that bondage for over twenty years and counting.

But as was allready posted here, God is continually refining us. "he who began a good work in us will be faithful to carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus". If we didnt continue to sin, we wouldnt continually need refinement. Its sort of like practicing humility. When you choose to practice humility, what happens is you become more aware of your pride. Eventually more and more pride is revealed to you. A person who has practiced humility for years, recognizes their own pride, as i do mine, as this vast ocean of horror and opposition go God, I wish i could escape it but, of course i will only escape it through death. The flip side of all of this is the power of God and the Spirit flowing through us. The riches of God's blessings and abundance we can live in, right now in this life even in our current condition. Everything about God is contradictory to everything about this world. The one who would lead must make himself servant to all. As i tell my wife, you are in charge. I will do all you say. It is my job to serve her and you, to prostrate myself before her and you and anyone else i intend to lead, as Jesus told us, Go and do as i have done for you. What he did for us is serve us, he came not as a king but as a servant/king, and allowed himself to be subject to torment ridicule shame and even death tho he was innocent. I tell you, this is our job as men. To lead others to God just as Jesus lead us to God. some of us might dare to turn our will over to a godly person but which of us would dare to turn our will over to an evil person? Jesus did, and he called us to do the same. So yea, Focus on God, Focus on his word, focus on prayer and learn and be transformed by the renewing of your mind, worship God in spirit and in truth, offer your bodies to God as a living and holy sacrifice fragrant and pleasing to God and SERVE ONE ANOTHER IN LOVE. This is our job, it is our labor of love, it is also our blessing. I tell you, when you do what you were created to do, nothing in life or death can overcome you. God's power is absolute and we have every ability to wield all of his power ourselves. God longs to give each of us all of himself his love for us is so perfect. It is never God who slow, it is always us who are slow to position ourselves to receive. The position is one of humility, and two words, YES LORD. No wait or if or but, just YES LORD. I speak YEs lord to everything, CAR broke? YES LORD, THANK YOU GOD, DAUGHTER MURDERED? YES LORD, THANK YOU GOD, WHY????? Not because i want those things but because I TRUST GOD. It doesnt require trust to thank God when you get what u want. IT requires trust when you get what you do not want, and stand on the promise God made that he will use it for our good. The formula for peace, from Isaiah, "thou will keep in perfect peace him whose mind is stayed on theee because he trusteth in thee" ????? If your peace isnt absolutely perfect, it is because, your mind isnt stayed on God and you are not trusting him. HE IS trustworthy. HE is the only one. HE is the only power. Practice his word and you will be free and empowered.

Thanks so much for the post.
 
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YES! YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES! You can stop sinning! That is why Jesus Christ came and died! That is why you need the Holy Ghost! You get power when you get the REAL Holy Ghost!

*For those who will rebut my comments, read the entire post before the mud slinging.

It is so sad that people are saying that you cannot stop sinning until you die!!!! Then Christ's sacrifice was of no effect! He came to save his people FROM their sin not IN their sin! (Matthew 1:21)

Now with that being said let me clarify something: There is a difference between committing a sin, and living a life of sin. In the KJV, if you see an action verb that ends in the letters "eth," that means continually. If you "sinneth," that means you are continually sinning. John lets us know that "he that sinneth is of the devil." He also said that "whosoever is
born of God doth not commit sin because his seed remaineth in him and he cannot sin.) If someone is continually sinning, they do not have the Holy Ghost and are not on their way to heaven.

However, after you have received the Holy Ghost, that does not mean you will never commit a sin again. It DOES mean that you will not CONTINUALLY commit sin. John told us in 1 John 2:1, he said DON'T SIN. But the he said if you do, you have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ. In other words, you can be forgiven if you mess up. But that doesn't mean you can just keep on sinning and keep on repenting. If you keep on sinning, we know who your daddy is!
 

Liz21

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With God, we can. Nothing is impossible for Him.
 
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#52
I think it is possible to not sin. What we cannot stop is temptation ... those things which come along and stir up our flesh.

We don't have to follow the temptation to its sinful end. The sin is not in the temptation. The sin is in acting on the lusts of our flesh to the point lust conceives and brings forth sin (James 1:15).

God tells us in 1 Cor 10:13 that He will provide a way to escape the temptation.

Question:

Will we follow God's way of escape?

Will we allow lust to conceive and bring forth sin?

Romans 12:21: Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
 

Liz21

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Galatians 5:16 " I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh".
 
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Rom 8:13, For if you live after the flesh (sinful nature), you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
 
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John 8
31,
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;
32, And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33, They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how say you, You shall be made free?
34, Jesus answered them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Whoever commits sin is the servant of sin.
35, And the servant stays not in the house for ever: but the Son stays ever.
36, If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.
 

BillG

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Feb 15, 2017
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#56
Can we stop sinning?
Yes we can.

Will we be Sinless this side of Heaven?
I don't think so.

That doesn't mean we should take sin lightly and say it's ok when we sin.

As Jesus increases in us then sin decreases in us.
 
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joefizz

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#57
There are alot of good posts here and i have seen threads like this in the past. Romans chapter seven Paul deals with this issue very precisely clearly. The last verse, who will set me free from this body of death, Thanks be to God through Jesus. then he concludes with, so on the one hand, in my spirit i have the desire to do good yet in my flesh I do not have the ability to carry it out. This is why our flesh is condemned to death rot and decay and it will cease to exist and why our Soul and spirit will remain.

I have heard people argue, that if we have turned our hearts to God then the law has fulfilled its purpose, which was to make us aware of sin, and our need for a savior, and the method of salvation, which is blood sacrifice. It is true that once we turn to God and away from sin, we are reborn and become new creations in Christ SPIRITUALLY, but not physically, obviously. If the law no longer applies then we would be literally sinless, however this argument is invalid. God's law is eternal and always applies. Because of our flesh we will always sin while we have a fleshly body, which is why God has condemned our bodies, and they will return to dust. As paul wrote, if i agree with the law, then it is no longer i who sin but sin which indwells me. People love to argue these points but i consider such arguments useless.

The best posts I read here were ones that described our focus. From Colossians we know, "since then you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above where christ is seated at the right hand of God, set your minds on things above not on earthly things. Our focus must always be on God. Dont worry about sin, however again it is written, "do not worry about anything but in everything by prayer and petition with thanksgiving present your requests to God and the peace of God which transcends all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus." Lets not leave out another of my favorite verses, "Do not merely listen to the word and so deceive yourselves, do what it says," I would love to hear more preachers preach practicing the word of God. From my own experience with God, and him teaching me personally, God has shown me the power of confession. Say you have a sin you feel in bondage to? Whatever that sin is, you may feel like you have no control. ok. Commit yourself to confessing the sin every time you practice it. And i dont mean confess to God, as so many people think that is the only confession that matters. Select a group of people prayerfully, and every time you practice a sin you have bondage to, confess it to this group, one at a time over and over. What happens is, when you are tempted again, you eventually realize, you will have to confess again, and the fact that you will confess, gives you power over the sin.
I was forced into addiction, slavery and bondage as a four year old boy. I had when i last counted no less than 11 different addictions, which is just another word for bondage. I have today been free from all that bondage for over twenty years and counting.

But as was allready posted here, God is continually refining us. "he who began a good work in us will be faithful to carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus". If we didnt continue to sin, we wouldnt continually need refinement. Its sort of like practicing humility. When you choose to practice humility, what happens is you become more aware of your pride. Eventually more and more pride is revealed to you. A person who has practiced humility for years, recognizes their own pride, as i do mine, as this vast ocean of horror and opposition go God, I wish i could escape it but, of course i will only escape it through death. The flip side of all of this is the power of God and the Spirit flowing through us. The riches of God's blessings and abundance we can live in, right now in this life even in our current condition. Everything about God is contradictory to everything about this world. The one who would lead must make himself servant to all. As i tell my wife, you are in charge. I will do all you say. It is my job to serve her and you, to prostrate myself before her and you and anyone else i intend to lead, as Jesus told us, Go and do as i have done for you. What he did for us is serve us, he came not as a king but as a servant/king, and allowed himself to be subject to torment ridicule shame and even death tho he was innocent. I tell you, this is our job as men. To lead others to God just as Jesus lead us to God. some of us might dare to turn our will over to a godly person but which of us would dare to turn our will over to an evil person? Jesus did, and he called us to do the same. So yea, Focus on God, Focus on his word, focus on prayer and learn and be transformed by the renewing of your mind, worship God in spirit and in truth, offer your bodies to God as a living and holy sacrifice fragrant and pleasing to God and SERVE ONE ANOTHER IN LOVE. This is our job, it is our labor of love, it is also our blessing. I tell you, when you do what you were created to do, nothing in life or death can overcome you. God's power is absolute and we have every ability to wield all of his power ourselves. God longs to give each of us all of himself his love for us is so perfect. It is never God who slow, it is always us who are slow to position ourselves to receive. The position is one of humility, and two words, YES LORD. No wait or if or but, just YES LORD. I speak YEs lord to everything, CAR broke? YES LORD, THANK YOU GOD, DAUGHTER MURDERED? YES LORD, THANK YOU GOD, WHY????? Not because i want those things but because I TRUST GOD. It doesnt require trust to thank God when you get what u want. IT requires trust when you get what you do not want, and stand on the promise God made that he will use it for our good. The formula for peace, from Isaiah, "thou will keep in perfect peace him whose mind is stayed on theee because he trusteth in thee" ????? If your peace isnt absolutely perfect, it is because, your mind isnt stayed on God and you are not trusting him. HE IS trustworthy. HE is the only one. HE is the only power. Practice his word and you will be free and empowered.

Thanks so much for the post.
Not often will I read through such a long post and even agree with said post,as I do with this post,also I see you are a member I have never discussed with good to see you posting!
 

KILTBOY

Junior Member
Jan 14, 2016
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#58
That wasn't the Op's "question" you just used it as "an excuse" to post a whole lot of scripture to this member,and spout your doctrine which "none of it" answered his question.
That's very "inconsiderate" and "selfish".
joefizz, I don't know what your issue is. I answered the OP's question. Sorry YOU don't like the answer. Do you have a better one?