,, Why is it that when we as people of God see something that is clearly not of God.. Something that is counter productive to the KIngdom, and we rebuke it and say "NO!! I WILL NOT STAND FOR THAT!!'' Right away, people jump up and say that we are casting stones, that we are judging. NO! that's a lie and I'm not having it! What are we gonna do next... start apologizing to the devil for rebuking him?? "Devil.. i'm sorry i hurt your feelings' It's time for the people of God to start standing up for what is right.
casting stones??
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Amen my friend Amen! I was just getting ready to post this in a thread but I will post it here:
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
E
The problem is, everyone thinks they are right. I might cast a stone at you and say I am right, yet I could be wrong, same with everyone else.
the problem is we need to set aside our preconceived notions of what we believe is right. and discuss with open minds when we come to a discussion that differs from ours. and both look to God and the word to see what God is really saying.
the problem is. way to many refuse to do this.
the problem is we need to set aside our preconceived notions of what we believe is right. and discuss with open minds when we come to a discussion that differs from ours. and both look to God and the word to see what God is really saying.
the problem is. way to many refuse to do this.
A
use the sword of spirit to test all spirits. if you are wrong GOD will tell you both and the sword will not hurt the person. people only get hurt by words Inspired by God when they KNOW they are doing wrong and don't want to admit it. misguided idea if they are ignorant of their sins they won't be held as accountable. its a pleasant lie they want to believe that "ignorance is bliss" when it is just the blind leading the blind, both will fall into the ditch of Hell unless they open their eyes and ears and turn to Jesus with repentant hearts and CONFESS that they have sinned instead of denying it.
From my experiance people are far more ready to cast stones on the internet than in the churches themselves when face to face with someone.
I have heard many(myself included) be called heretics, told we have the spirit of antichrist in us and are condemned by people on the internet, never have I been told this face to face or heard it said of anyone else in public.
So are people saying behind their computer screens what those in church believe but do not say? Or does the internet produce a certain type of person/opinion that is not the norm in churches?
I have heard many(myself included) be called heretics, told we have the spirit of antichrist in us and are condemned by people on the internet, never have I been told this face to face or heard it said of anyone else in public.
So are people saying behind their computer screens what those in church believe but do not say? Or does the internet produce a certain type of person/opinion that is not the norm in churches?
A
I think say pretty much what I'm thinking even if I don't say it out loud in church. However, sometimes God shows me I'm wrong or harsh with my opinions which is why if I think that someone is acting in a manner not befitting a Christian I have to pray about it.
When I tell someone they sound heretical its not the PERSON but the IDEA that is being addressed. I'm not sure if others make that distinction or not. but I think its an important one.
I think most on the site are seeking to understand and develop a closer relationship with God but their ideas and probably some of mine are not in line with the HOLY WORD of God and that is what cause the dissension.
When two people think they are right and unwilling to hear the other side of the argument.
I state my case and listen to others. if someone can convince me that I'm wrong, I apologize and tell them that they are right their view is more Biblically based then mine.
I do that in real life and over the internet when I stop long enough to remember.
The spirit of the Antichrist torments most people (we should do as Jesus did when satan popped up in His life: rebuke him with scripture) and no one has the authority to condemn another. If any of my words give anyone that impression, I must apologize.
Like I said I condemn THOUGHTS and WORDS not the person.
People need to detach themselves from words and thoughts and look at them objectively and ask is this thought FROM GOD, and if it is not they need to uproot it so they can be MORE LIKE what God intended them to be. Life is a journey that we must walk with Jesus by our side to help guide and direct our steps.
sorry that was longer then I intended it to be..
YouTube - HEAL ME O LORD - Don Moen (With Lyrics)
When I tell someone they sound heretical its not the PERSON but the IDEA that is being addressed. I'm not sure if others make that distinction or not. but I think its an important one.
I think most on the site are seeking to understand and develop a closer relationship with God but their ideas and probably some of mine are not in line with the HOLY WORD of God and that is what cause the dissension.
When two people think they are right and unwilling to hear the other side of the argument.
I state my case and listen to others. if someone can convince me that I'm wrong, I apologize and tell them that they are right their view is more Biblically based then mine.
I do that in real life and over the internet when I stop long enough to remember.
The spirit of the Antichrist torments most people (we should do as Jesus did when satan popped up in His life: rebuke him with scripture) and no one has the authority to condemn another. If any of my words give anyone that impression, I must apologize.
Like I said I condemn THOUGHTS and WORDS not the person.
People need to detach themselves from words and thoughts and look at them objectively and ask is this thought FROM GOD, and if it is not they need to uproot it so they can be MORE LIKE what God intended them to be. Life is a journey that we must walk with Jesus by our side to help guide and direct our steps.
sorry that was longer then I intended it to be..
YouTube - HEAL ME O LORD - Don Moen (With Lyrics)
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This is very interesting you should say. However, even on the internet I feel those stones. Don't you? Every time I even THINK about this site, and these forums a feeling of dread comes over me. And when someone responds to me with hostility I feel those stones pounding me. Several times I have wanted to just stop coming here altogether, but I think I would be being disobedient, plus the Lord keeps restoring me.
Those stones are when words hit your heart. Some people throw condemnation and the person receiving the stones may run under the pressure and be condemned to hell. God will no tolerate this. But indeed the same stuff that I have witnessed in this site are in these churches. I know my final calling is to the Church, and I have to be prepared to do his will, even to death. You too my friend. May Jesus bless you.
Those stones are when words hit your heart. Some people throw condemnation and the person receiving the stones may run under the pressure and be condemned to hell. God will no tolerate this. But indeed the same stuff that I have witnessed in this site are in these churches. I know my final calling is to the Church, and I have to be prepared to do his will, even to death. You too my friend. May Jesus bless you.
Times people don't realize a spirit of self righteousness gets on them and they want to tell everyone else hey your wrong about this, your wrong about this. The problem is we ALL fall short of the glory of God. Plus the fact when you get deeper and deeper into God you learn that you are to love. Love is what you are to do. You are to pray for your enemy and love them. If you don't have love you are not in Gods will. Since you are not perfect which I'm telling you right now you are not why are you wanting to tell everyone whats wrong with them?? Jump down off the throne you put your self on and stop trying to be holy ghost Jr. Me, you and anyone are not perfect. Go out and love someone. People are broken and need help. They need to be loved. If Jesus didn't love us we'd all be in hell for our sins.
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I have been told to my face I am not saved because I do not speak in tongues. I have been told to my face I am not following the true catholic church. thus I do not have the complete truth. in fact, since I reject baptismal regeneration by water. I reject the gospel and am not saved.
I would much rather discuss in person,. then we can look up the word together. and not wait..lol
I have also been in churches that said they were the only true church and all other churches are false churches and lost.
I would much rather discuss in person,. then we can look up the word together. and not wait..lol
I have also been in churches that said they were the only true church and all other churches are false churches and lost.
One other thing that we can consider, when Jesus said, let the person who has not sinned, cast the first stone.
There was no one that could claim this, so all left.
The only one that could have thrown a stone is Jesus, and he threw no stones.
He did though, tell the woman her sins are forgiven, go and sin no more!
Just something to think about.
God bless.
pickles
There was no one that could claim this, so all left.
The only one that could have thrown a stone is Jesus, and he threw no stones.
He did though, tell the woman her sins are forgiven, go and sin no more!
Just something to think about.
God bless.
pickles
I agree with you totally Dude653,
My main concern is (and I think you mean the same) people calling themselves christians yet adhere to false teachings. they need rebuked.. its plain in scripture, its not loving to stand by and let them perish and worse damage the souls of the Saints they may be trying to persuade.
The biiger crime is someone professing to be a Christian and not rebuking false teaching because they say its not 'loving'. I ask, Loving by who's standards, it certainly is a righteous love but a post modern all is truth love. Thats not Gdoly Love.
Anyhow good post dude.
Phil
You definatelty have a point crazy4God. But to put it another way,
All those in the Faith can agree to atleast 9 or 10 essentials, pertaing to what the Christian belief actually is.
Infant Baptism, Adult Baptism, Spiritual Gifts are periphial to this (unless your pentecostal ha ha couldnt resist).
But it is essential that those who hold blatant false teachings knowingly and also go on to teach as turth within the body of Christ, need to be rebuked. Infact, we have Paul himself done mroe than a few times.
What are your thoughts?
Phil
C
well to see whether what they teach is truth or not. We must still chestise them by heart and rebuke the wickedness of the false doctrine to see the real truth.
There was once at this one church said, The Pastor recieves the Holy Ghost but the congregation receieves the Holy Spirit......this is wicked teaching.......they are the same thing, also to add Pastor is not greater than the congregation,,,just has a different office.
But friend it could be because of religious reasons, not relaionship.....which lead to destruction
There was once at this one church said, The Pastor recieves the Holy Ghost but the congregation receieves the Holy Spirit......this is wicked teaching.......they are the same thing, also to add Pastor is not greater than the congregation,,,just has a different office.
But friend it could be because of religious reasons, not relaionship.....which lead to destruction