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Jackson123

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https://www.ranker.com/list/catholic-church-trafficked-stollen-babies-spain/jacob-shelton



Throughout the 20th century the Spanish arm of the Catholic Church would steal newborn babies from their mothers and sell them to the highest bidder. As far as church

I quote this statement from article above.

If It true, No question catholic is Lucifer religion. How a religion organice stealing 300 thousand baby? If only one or 2 It may, do by only a small fraction of It members, is that posible the high rank leader do not know after their member steal 300 thausand baby?

If so why not take serious action?
 

JaumeJ

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Living in Spain, and thoroughly opposed to anything RCC, I must be fair. As to the best of my knowwwledge the SRCC has never praciced stealing babies to sell. True they did care for the civil war orphans and found homes for as many as the were given to be able, buy stealing and then selling, noooooo. God bles you and may God bless the pople of all denominationssssssssss..
 

Jackson123

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Living in Spain, and thoroughly opposed to anything RCC, I must be fair. As to the best of my knowwwledge the SRCC has never praciced stealing babies to sell. True they did care for the civil war orphans and found homes for as many as the were given to be able, buy stealing and then selling, noooooo. God bles you and may God bless the pople of all denominationssssssssss..
Thank for your partisipation brother, but you may consider this quotation

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Speaking to the BBC, an 89-year-old woman named Ines Perez admitted that a priest helped her work out a fake pregnancy before she received a baby girl in 1969. She said, "The priest gave me padding to wear on my stomach."

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They do It secretly so most people do not know.

The Accused Didn't Face Charges Until 2018
Photo: Oscar Del Pozo/Contributor/AFP
 

JaumeJ

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That is gtrue and an isolated even with very wide and unusual circumstnces. iT IS WRONG BUY IN ALL FAIRNESS IT IS NOT A LONGTIMER PRACDTICE......
 

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i almost bulked when he said they are like the prodigal son, they are more like judas and should do what he did
 

Jackson123

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That is gtrue and an isolated even with very wide and unusual circumstnces. iT IS WRONG BUY IN ALL FAIRNESS IT IS NOT A LONGTIMER PRACDTICE......
Thank for your input.

You believe It is an isolate even. But If It 300 thausand stealing baby, to me is not isolate.
 

JaumeJ

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Had it been so many I believe it would carry its own weight of evidence by repuation. Look how the Nazi camps have remained in the thoughts of so many.
 

Jackson123

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Had it been so many I believe it would carry its own weight of evidence by repuation. Look how the Nazi camps have remained in the thoughts of so many.

This is the title of that article,

The Catholic Church Stole 300,000 Babies And Sold Them To The Highest Bidder

In my country If one make an article like this without evidence, It can go to prison.
 

JaumeJ

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This is the title of that article,

The Catholic Church Stole 300,000 Babies And Sold Them To The Highest Bidder

In my country If one make an article like this without evidence, It can go to prison.
I have heard of a goup of nuns in the south who were decding who waqs unfit to have children and adopting thrm out. Where is your new source and the evidence of 400,000 babirs "sold."'
iF IT IS WIKIPEDIA, i UNDERSTAND.
 

JaumeJ

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aLL i HAVE FOUND ONLINE ARE ACCOUNTS OF WOMEN WHO WERE TOLD THEY LOST THEIR VAVY AT BIRTH BUT NO SUBSTANTIATION..

tHESE ALLEGATIONS MAY BE ABSOLUTELY TRUE OR FALE. i HAVE NOT READ OF ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCE ONLY ALLEGATIONS OF WOMEN WHOSE BABIRS DIED AT BIRTH. aS FOR 300,000, THAT WOULD NOT BE KEPT SECRET FOR DECADES AS ALLEGED BY THE ARTICLES.

gOD KNOWWS, i CNNOT GO WITH THER TORY WITHOU A REAL INVESTIGATION. i HAVE SEEN TOO MANY SOTISES BLOWN COMPLETELY OUT OF PROPORTION HERE IN sPAIN TO JUMP AT BELIVING SOMETHING SO OUTRAGEOUS WITHOUT I BRING FRMONDYTYRF BY TRL RIFRNVR. fORGIVE THE CAPS....
 
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What do we have here? We have a story on the internet that is hard to verify. We have a large religious organization that has proven over and over to be scandalous to the core, yet maintains a devout following. Then we have a website that profits off of how many visitors click on it.

Those who hate the RCC find this easy to believe. In actuality a religion that acts more like a government while stealing, killing, blackmailing and brainwashing in the name of God has earned their reputation. They act above the law, span around the world, have access to funds and politicians. I believe they are capable, but the number given may seem high. You show me a group of women who have lost their babies for generations and I will show you a mob that can take down the Vatican.
 
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In the early 50’s Ireland’s Catholic Charities organisation was doing similar things, women who had babies out of wedlock, were being sold to married American couples.
 

jaybird88

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What do we have here? We have a story on the internet that is hard to verify. We have a large religious organization that has proven over and over to be scandalous to the core, yet maintains a devout following. Then we have a website that profits off of how many visitors click on it.

Those who hate the RCC find this easy to believe. In actuality a religion that acts more like a government while stealing, killing, blackmailing and brainwashing in the name of God has earned their reputation. They act above the law, span around the world, have access to funds and politicians. I believe they are capable, but the number given may seem high. You show me a group of women who have lost their babies for generations and I will show you a mob that can take down the Vatican.
the OP devotes his life to hating Catholics, where do you start with people like that. they need lots of prayer i guess.
 

Jackson123

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I have heard of a goup of nuns in the south who were decding who waqs unfit to have children and adopting thrm out. Where is your new source and the evidence of 400,000 babirs "sold."'
iF IT IS WIKIPEDIA, i UNDERSTAND.
The link above I put in my post #1, why I believe that link?

In my country people that write the article like that, Will go to jail If they do not have evidence.

Why catholic church not sue him, not for money but to protect her reputation If It is not true.

The article say It is happen

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Throughout the 20th century the Spanish arm of the Catholic Church would steal newborn babies from their mothers and sell them to the highest bidder. As far as church

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It mean during 100 years window time. So If your question where the group If mom that lost their child?

The answer is some of them was die.


But I am not Deny of the posibility that this article is exagerated, If so, why catholic not sue the writen?
 

Jackson123

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What do we have here? We have a story on the internet that is hard to verify. We have a large religious organization that has proven over and over to be scandalous to the core, yet maintains a devout following. Then we have a website that profits off of how many visitors click on it.

Those who hate the RCC find this easy to believe. In actuality a religion that acts more like a government while stealing, killing, blackmailing and brainwashing in the name of God has earned their reputation. They act above the law, span around the world, have access to funds and politicians. I believe they are capable, but the number given may seem high. You show me a group of women who have lost their babies for generations and I will show you a mob that can take down the Vatican.

Yep, and what make me believe is her reputation as a killer
 

Jackson123

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the OP devotes his life to hating Catholics, where do you start with people like that. they need lots of prayer i guess.

Not, I am not devote my life to hate, but to love. That is why I try what ever I can to warn them to leaving to the path of hell, moving to the path of heaven.

Example of hate

I watch people oN the path of hell and say:

I love you brother, keep going and you Will be AL right. This is hate not love.

Example of love

I watch people oN the path of hell. Say:

I love you brother, your path that you oN now Will bring you to hell, please move to the real Jesus path. It Narrow path but have Happy ending.
 

Lanolin

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I dont know about this as not living in spain but I have heard people blame orphanages for child trafficking. Some may be run by nuns and convents of thr RCC.
In my country I did hear there used to be situstions where unwed mothers had babies adopted out, they got sent away to places to have their babies, signed a form and handed over their babies to the state because they couldnt look after them. Because it was shameful. I have not heard of anyone bidding on a baby or child for cash. I dont know enough about RCC orphanges how they operate now but have heard in some countires like Ireland that happens since ireland is a catholic run state. But i have heard of some abuses in RCC orphanges in my country in the past...people are only now speaking up about it.

Nowadays what happens is the unwed mothers go on the DPB, the domestic purposes benefit and the state actually gives them money to raise the child. Thus you get a sitstion where some unscrupulous people deliberately get pregant, dont marry, list the father as unknown, and receive money for their child which they spend, sometimes not on the child but on drugs.
However if people report these so called parents to the auhtorities, social workers etc, they could get their child taken off them (called an uplift) and placed in foster care because of neglect of the child. No parent is fit to parent if they are on drugs. Especially for a baby that will need 24/7 care in the first few months of its life. If one negelects this care, that baby could die. Foster parents are paid a certain sum to look after the child but they may not adopt them if the birth parents havent consented.

This actually happens. This is reality.

As for adoption depending on what country one goes to, usually its free, for unwanted children, its only if a child is like a designer baby from a sperm donor or something people have to pay (for all the technology and fertility treatments to have one) . Dont quote me im not the expert though.

The headline for that article seems a bit scaremongering allegation, but there have been scandals of child abuse by the RCC in the past like what happened in Boston they had paedophiles in the church, and everyone turned a blind eye.

Theres catholic high schools up the road from me Im actually going to visit one this week to check them out for a job interview. As far as I know they are just tied to their religion which has a lot of man made rules but Im not sure how deep in bondage they are to the devil! I think the majority dont really have a personal relationship with Jesus though, and thus just like unbelievers like anyone else who doesnt believe. Not sure which worse though, unbelievers that worship rock star idols or unbelievers who worship rock idols that look like Jesus.
 

JaumeJ

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The link above I put in my post #1, why I believe that link?

In my country people that write the article like that, Will go to jail If they do not have evidence.

Why catholic church not sue him, not for money but to protect her reputation If It is not true.

The article say It is happen

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Throughout the 20th century the Spanish arm of the Catholic Church would steal newborn babies from their mothers and sell them to the highest bidder. As far as church

End quote

It mean during 100 years window time. So If your question where the group If mom that lost their child?

The answer is some of them was die.


But I am not Deny of the posibility that this article is exagerated, If so, why catholic not sue the writen?
In the 1970's I red an article ina Chicago newpape on travel,, and th eplace in question was PARISSSS...Yes, France.

The expert traveler declared he could not find bread in pARIS.. I had alrey beeen to Paris several times, aand I KNOW THERE ARE BAKERIES JUST ABOUTT EVERYWHERE NOT TO MENTION THE SLICED BREA SOLD IN GROCERY STORES. i HAVE witnessed many untruths in newpaperss in my short time in this age.
 

Lanolin

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Ugh maybe he just couldnt find wonderbread or whatever they sell in chicago.
 

JaumeJ

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MY point is the condemnation of a people based on a lie. This continues tody in most countries by manay people. I realize you are speaking tongu-in-cheek, but the food availability and quality was fine in France, and i TRAVELED extensivily there and in many European and Asia Minor countries……...some of the best food was in Turkey and Cypres. Do not put people down ever simply for their nationality…...Fhsds iz no country deserving such attituifr, nt a one.