Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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valiant

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Where in the Scriptures mwc68 does the Holy Spirit claim Baptism washes you clean of Original Sin? Why are you always quoting from Satan and not from the Scriptures mwc68?
Now Mike be reasonable. God might not say it. But the Pope does. The magisterium does. The RC catechism does. The Council of Trent says it. mwc's priest says it. So its 5 against 1.
 

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Dr. David R. Reagan (the Founder and Director of Lamb & Lion Ministries) recently did a great job of pointing out some of the Pope’s theological errors.

For example, Pope Francis said, “If Martians were to land on earth tomorrow, I would be happy to baptize them.” Martians should not be baptized unless they accept Jesus.

Pope Francis said, “Atheists who do good are redeemed, not just Catholics.” No one can be saved by doing good, not atheists, not Catholics, not Martians or anyone else.

Pope Francis said, “The Big Bang Theory does not contradict the role of God as divine Creator.” The Bible says God spoke this world into existence in six days. That contradicts a massive explosion in one day.

Pope Francis said, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has good will, then who am I to judge him?” God said the gay lifestyle is an abomination and the Pope has the responsibility to know it and tell it like it is.

Pope Francis said, “God is not a divine being or a magician.” God is a divine being who works miracles.

Since Dr. Reagan’s great article, Pope Francis has recognized the State of Palestine. This is a major theological error. Pope Francis can recognize the division of Israel, but according to the Bible God won’t recognize it.

Having said this, Revelation chapter 13 teaches that two beasts (the Antichrist and the False Prophet) will rise to power during the Tribulation period. The Antichrist (a global political leader) will receive his power from Satan (Rev. 13:2, 4). The False Prophet (a global religious leader) will speak like Satan (Rev. 13:11).

These two beasts (world leaders) will have a common goal that will come from Satan (Rev.17:7). They will work together to establish a world government and a false religion (Rev.13:7-8).

Some believe the false religion will be located in the city of Rome (where the Roman Catholic Church is) and others believe it will be located in the rebuilt city of Babylon (Rev. 17:5, 9). For awhile, the Antichrist and False Prophet will share a political alliance with global leaders (Ten Kings), but that won’t last (Rev. 17:12-13; 16). Put another way, the False Prophet will abandon true worship and establish a political alliance with world leaders.


This brings us to the Papal Encyclical that Pope Francis released on June 18, 2015. Some call it a political document because Pope Francis wants political leaders to reduce the world’s population, regulate global climate change, establish a global constitution, establish a global court, establish a global council (could this be 10 kings) and establish a one-world government.

Pope Francis condemned global greenhouse gas emissions, but some hoped he would condemn Islamic terrorism and the persecution of Christians. He wrote about our “sister” Mother Earth, but some hoped he would write about our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

He wrote about stamping out the coal industry, but some hoped he would write about stamping out abortion and gay marriage. He wrote about the rise of sea levels, but some hoped he would write about the rise of lawlessness in the world and in the White House. It was said that Pope Francis was speaking to the world, but his encyclical sounded more like he was speaking for the world instead of for God.



Link To Full Article: Daymond Duck
 
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100% of everything mwc68 says is not in the Scriptures.

How can you claim to have received Jesus Christ in your heart and then teach the Doctrines of Demons? All you are showing mwc68 is your ignorance in what the Holy Spirit teaches in the Scriptures.

No one who has the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit will ever teach the opposite of what the Scriptures say.

The Thief on the cross proves we receive Salvation by Faith and Grace. It also proves we do not need to be Baptized to receive Salvation.

Luke 23:39-43
[SUP]39 [/SUP] Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us."
[SUP]40 [/SUP] But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, "Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation?
[SUP]41 [/SUP] And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong."
[SUP]42 [/SUP] Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."
[SUP]43 [/SUP] And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."

The stain of sin is also made up by the Catholic Church. No where in the Scriptures does God say we have to work off our stain of our sins. In fact God does say He cleanses us of our "stain" of our sins.

1 John 1:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Cleanse us from all unrighteousness is the washing away the stain of our sins mwc68.

So why do you hate what God say? Could it be you have never received Salvation and are trying to deceive us into following your God Satan?

Repent mwc68 and receive Salvation and then be Baptized by full immersion, not sprinkled like the Catholic Church teaches.
You just contradicted yourself . You say baptism is NOT required for salvation, yet at the end of your statement you urge me to get baptized. I'm confused! So which is it? Or is it possible you are confused?
 
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Pope Francis said,
If Martians were to land on earth tomorrow, I would be happy to baptize them.”

Martians should not be baptized unless they accept Jesus.
Not sure why .... but I find this screamingly funny ! :p
 
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God wants us to be Baptized mwc68, but Baptism is NOT required to receive Salvation!

Ephesians 2:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Where in this verse or any other verse that says we receive Salvation by Faith, Grace, and Baptism?

Baptism is a sign that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and therefore we receive Baptism to show others that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. This is why John the Baptist said to be Baptized.

You error in your thinking mwc68 because you spend too much time listening to what the Popes teach in the Catholic Church and not enough time studying the Scriptures with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

If you would just change your focus from the Catholic Church to God you will know then the Truths in the Scriptures.
 
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God wants us to be Baptized mwc68, but Baptism is NOT required to receive Salvation!

Ephesians 2:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Where in this verse or any other verse that says we receive Salvation by Faith, Grace, and Baptism?

Baptism is a sign that we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and therefore we receive Baptism to show others that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. This is why John the Baptist said to be Baptized.

You error in your thinking mwc68 because you spend too much time listening to what the Popes teach in the Catholic Church and not enough time studying the Scriptures with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

If you would just change your focus from the Catholic Church to God you will know then the Truths in the Scriptures.
How about you change YOUR focus and stop attacking me sir! We have a disagreement as to what baptism is for. I agree to disagree! As for telling the forum that 100% of what I say is wrong, that's just childish
 
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The disagreement you have sir is not with me.

The disagreement you have over Baptism is with God. Its you who say Salvation is received by Baptism and its God who says Salvation is received by Faith and Grace.

So what you are saying is since you disagree with what God says means that God has to agree to what you say.

I think that is rather foolish of you.

But sir you do tell lies all the time about what God says in the Scriptures. Do you really think you are doing the Will of the Father when you disagree with God and spread lies instead?

God is not mocked sir, He knows what you are doing and at the White Throng Judgement you will be judged by God for everything you have said here.
 
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.... But sir you do tell lies all the time about what God says in the Scriptures.
Do you really think you are doing the Will of the Father when you disagree with God and spread lies instead ?
Settle down, Mike.

Have you ever, in your life, genuinely, sincerely voiced an opinion or told a story which you believed to be true ....
but which turned out to be incorrect ?
I know I have. Many times.

Were we lying ?
I do not believe so.

MWC is entitled to the same presumption of sincerity and honesty - even if he is misled (as I agree that he is)
 
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The disagreement you have sir is not with me.

The disagreement you have over Baptism is with God. Its you who say Salvation is received by Baptism and its God who says Salvation is received by Faith and Grace.

So what you are saying is since you disagree with what God says means that God has to agree to what you say.

I think that is rather foolish of you.

But sir you do tell lies all the time about what God says in the Scriptures. Do you really think you are doing the Will of the Father when you disagree with God and spread lies instead?

God is not mocked sir, He knows what you are doing and at the White Throng Judgement you will be judged by God for everything you have said here.
As will you sir. So lets see, I know there is going to be Judgement before the throne of God. Is that a lie? I know Jesus died for my sins. Is that a lie? I believe the whole Nicene Creed. Is that a lie?
 

valiant

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As will you sir. So lets see, I know there is going to be Judgement before the throne of God. Is that a lie? I know Jesus died for my sins. Is that a lie? I believe the whole Nicene Creed. Is that a lie?
Here are a number of lies that you do believe :

13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.
 
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Sir you believe Mary was without sin...that's a lie.

You believe Mary was assumed into Heaven...that's a lie.

You believe infants who have been Baptized has received Salvation...that's a lie.

You believe Mary can hear our prayers....that's a lie.

You believe Mary can answer our prayers...that's a lie.

You believe we cleanse our self of the stain of our sins in Purgatory....that's a lie.

Your whole Foundation is built on lies from the Catholic Church. We True Christians have built our Foundation on Jesus Christ and His Truths in the Scriptures.
 
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It seems like mwc68 is the major spokesperson for the Catholic Church. LOL
 

valiant

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As will you sir. So lets see, I know there is going to be Judgement before the throne of God. Is that a lie? I know Jesus died for my sins. Is that a lie? I believe the whole Nicene Creed. Is that a lie?
Here are a number of lies you do believe :

14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.

  1. 16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
    17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
    18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
    19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
    20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
    21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
    22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
    23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
    24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
    25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
    26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.
 
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I'll give you a chance to prove you are telling the Truth mwc68, all you have to do is show us where in the Scriptures does God say we need to work off the stain of our sins in Purgatory?

Show us the Book and Chapter and Verses where God says this.
 

Jackson123

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Sir you believe Mary was without sin...that's a lie.

You believe Mary was assumed into Heaven...that's a lie.

You believe infants who have been Baptized has received Salvation...that's a lie.

You believe Mary can hear our prayers....that's a lie.

You believe Mary can answer our prayers...that's a lie.

You believe we cleanse our self of the stain of our sins in Purgatory....that's a lie.

Your whole Foundation is built on lies from the Catholic Church. We True Christians have built our Foundation on Jesus Christ and His Truths in the Scriptures.
And Lucifer is the father of lie.

Mean .... is the daughter of .........
 
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It seems like mwc68 is the major spokesperson for the Catholic Church. LOL
I in no way represent the Catholic Church officially! I am a practicing Catholic and apparently a little crazy for continuing to engage you! LOL
 
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I'll give you a chance to prove you are telling the Truth mwc68, all you have to do is show us where in the Scriptures does God say we need to work off the stain of our sins in Purgatory?

Show us the Book and Chapter and Verses where God says this.
I don't know about working off sin, yet scripture suggests a cleansing fire.

2 Samuel 12 :13-15 says that even though you are saved, certain sin still requires punishment.

Matthew 5:48 says you must be perfect as God is perfect

Hebrews 12:23 Paul addresses SPIRITS who have been MADE perfect. How are SPIRITS made perfect?

1 Peter 1:7 Suggests there is a cleansing fire

Matthew 12:31-32 says there are sins ONLY forgiven in CERTAIN ages

Revelation 21:27 nothing unclean shall enter the presence of God
 

valiant

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I don't know about working off sin, yet scripture suggests a cleansing fire.

2 Samuel 12 :13-15 says that even though you are saved, certain sin still requires punishment.
In this life, yes. Not after death.

Matthew 5:48 says you must be perfect as God is perfect
True and so we will be when He takes us to be with Himself having purified us IN THIS LIFE (Eph 5.25-27)

Hebrews 12:23 Paul addresses SPIRITS who have been MADE perfect. How are SPIRITS made perfect?
Through travails in this life. And through Christ's final work on us as we are changed in the twinkling of an eye through the blood of Christ.

1 Peter 1:7 Suggests there is a cleansing fire
yes in this life, through testing, although it is not strictly fire.

Matthew 12:31-32 says there are sins ONLY forgiven in CERTAIN ages
It does not say that. It was simply stressing that there could be no forgiveness at any time. It was not suggesting that there will be forgiveness in the world to come.

Revelation 21:27 nothing unclean shall enter the presence of God
Because we are cleansed by the blood of Jesus.

So your church takes these clear Scriptures and invents something totally unknown to Scripture? Something which will help it to control the masses? Through the masses How sad.
 
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In this life, yes. Not after death.



True and so we will be when He takes us to be with Himself having purified us IN THIS LIFE (Eph 5.25-27)



Through travails in this life. And through Christ's final work on us as we are changed in the twinkling of an eye through the blood of Christ.



yes in this life, through testing, although it is not strictly fire.



It does not say that. It was simply stressing that there could be no forgiveness at any time. It was not suggesting that there will be forgiveness in the world to come.



Because we are cleansed by the blood of Jesus.

So your church takes these clear Scriptures and invents something totally unknown to Scripture? Something which will help it to control the masses? Through the masses How sad.
Lol, this was expected
 
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What did you expect mwc68?

When you attack God and His Truths with the lies from Satan do you really think God is going to set back and allow you to attack Him?

You must realize sir, you are not attacking us with your lies you are actually attacking the Holy Spirit for His Truths!

When will you realize that you are doing the "Works" of Satan and not God when you teach lies of the Catholic Church as Truths from God?

All these "Works" will be burned up and you will not have any rewards awaiting for you.