Catholic ia a victim to liar God, let love them.

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jaybird88

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I learn little bit about catholic and found out about how Lie is that dogma, and when I read the bible I found out that Jesus is God. So I try to help catholic follower that catholic dogma is Lie to them and you.
if you care so much about Catholics why do you post all this hate garbage where there are no Catholics? funny how you talk of "Catholics lies" and your own words are deceitful.
if you care anything of your Christian brothers you would look at the errors in your own church, but you are never going to do that. that plank in your eye aint coming out. its rooted deep.
 

DudleyDorite

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this is a non Catholic site. you know that.
This is a Christian forum and Catholic's are Christian's no matter how much people may dislike it.

Too many Protestants are bent on slander and calling people liars. (Not you JB)
 

Jackson123

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if you care so much about Catholics why do you post all this hate garbage where there are no Catholics? funny how you talk of "Catholics lies" and your own words are deceitful.
if you care anything of your Christian brothers you would look at the errors in your own church, but you are never going to do that. that plank in your eye aint coming out. its rooted deep.
Because i care about catholic follower, i tell them that they are under Lie dogma. If i do not love them i do not care If they are in the wrong direction.

I love an old blind man, when i know he walk toward ravine, I tell him, sir, you are in danger. Than I tell him why.

To tell the truth is love. If I not tell you how Lie is lumen gentium than you can accuse me that I hate you.

Friend, your concept of love is reverse.
 

jaybird88

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This is a Christian forum and Catholic's are Christian's no matter how much you dislike it. You are bent on slander and calling people liars.
i never said Catholics were not Christian so not sure where your getting that.
i am bent on what i see. there are next to no Catholics here.
these threads have nothing to do with sharing a mesage with Catholics, they are Catholic bashing pure and simple. if you cant see that, lol i got a bridge to sell you.
 

jaybird88

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But you believe in lumen gentium don't you
3rd time:
i could care less about lumen gent.
so why are you not out in front of Catholic churches, in Catholic forums, i mean if you really wanted to help them it sure makes no sense at all how your going on about it.
 

Jackson123

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3rd time:

so why are you not out in front of Catholic churches, in Catholic forums, i mean if you really wanted to help them it sure makes no sense at all how your going on about it.
You are catholic and you care less about lumen gentium?
 

jaybird88

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You are catholic and you care less about lumen gentium?
no im a baptist that grew up listening to this Catholic/Muslim/Jewish hate. i think its garbage now just as much as it was garbage then.

and again:
so why are you not out in front of Catholic churches, in Catholic forums, i mean if you really wanted to help them it sure makes no sense at all how your going on about it.
why do you avoid this?
 

Jackson123

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I need some body help me to understand.

Why a man believe Jesus is God and member of the organitation that believe mohammad worship Abraham God.

Let me repeat what mohammad claim ; he claim that his God tell him, Jesus is not God.

I am not smart enough to understand this phenomena. Please help me to understand.
 

Jackson123

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no im a baptist that grew up listening to this Catholic/Muslim/Jewish hate. i think its garbage now just as much as it was garbage then.

and again:

why do you avoid this?
So to tell that lumen gentium is Lie garbage?

If you love catholic you have to tell them.

You care less to tell the truth and you think you love them?

I not go to catholic forum because I do not think the Lord lead me to that direction. But there are some catholic here we can talk to them.
 
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Yes even atheist can do wonderfull works in their own name .

God is not served by human hands in any way shape or form. Scripture does not say the man in the parable in Mathew 7 did not perform them but recognized the Spirit of Christ was not in them.

If we do have the Spirit of Christ dwelling in these bodies of death, he will not forget the works we have shown towards His name .(not of us).]

No boasting rights, but rather believing responsibilities .

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work "iniquity."
Mathew 7:22-24
 
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It is obvious when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan ways but held unto them and it became their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures.

So they can veer off at any time in their interpretation of scriptures in which now they want to bring the religions, and Christian denominations together.

They are being geared to be the head of a unified religious system, Mystery Babylon, which will be the mother of all the religions, and represent them all with the interpretation of the new age movement, leading them to the New Age Christ, which the Pope will be the leader, and the Vatican the headquarters.

Islam believes the Quran is the last chapter of the Bible.

It is not so much that they care for the religion of Islam, but favor them for the sake of bringing them together with all religions.

But the truth is the unified religious system will be all religions together but interpreted by the new age movement based on evolution, and people can still evolve, and want the New Age Christ to cause them to evolve through the power of nature to be greater and spiritual.

When the unified religious system is operating on earth it is a hate crime to preach anything contrary to that punishable in the international criminal court system, and Christianity will decline in impacting the world with the truth.

This will spark a war between Islam and the world in which nuclear weapons devastate the Arab countries, and one third of the population dies mainly in the Arab countries, and causes the people of the world to accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.

So while the Pope and the Vatican might favor the religion of Islam they actually want to bring it down for it is against their agenda of the operation of the world according to the new age movement which when the people of the world that does not love God follow the beast then they will make war against Christianity, for Islam and Christianity both believe in a personal God, and the beast kingdom does not, but evolution is the true religion, and people can still evolve and become an ascended master and avatar like the man Jesus, and the New Age Christ the final teacher in the evolutionary process.

The Catholic Church's foundation is pagan and that is how they interpret scriptures, so they are persuaded by that and can change at any time along the lines of paganism, which they identified with other religions all through their history.

They look like a worldly Christianity with their exaltation of the Pope and Mary, and all the practices they do.

But they do love God and do not think anything is amiss, but when the Catholic Church strays even more then many Catholics will leave the Church and stop following the Pope and Vatican, or at least stop following the Pope and Vatican which is good, especially when the true Christians can preach to them concerning the truth on ears that will be more willing to listen.

But the Pope and Vatican will still have a great following, especially with China and India and their religions, for at that point Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher in the evolutionary process and love, which will delight the other religions, and since it is based on evolution they have a common belief to cause them to unite.

During the reign of the unified religious system it will be the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts, power through nature to evolve, and God warns us of the new age movement and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, that do not acknowledge a personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power(1 Timothy 4:1-5, 2 Timothy 4:2-4, Daniel 11:36-38).
 

epostle

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It is obvious when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan ways but held unto them and it became their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures.

So they can veer off at any time in their interpretation of scriptures in which now they want to bring the religions, and Christian denominations together.

They are being geared to be the head of a unified religious system, Mystery Babylon, which will be the mother of all the religions, and represent them all with the interpretation of the new age movement, leading them to the New Age Christ, which the Pope will be the leader, and the Vatican the headquarters.

Islam believes the Quran is the last chapter of the Bible.

It is not so much that they care for the religion of Islam, but favor them for the sake of bringing them together with all religions.

But the truth is the unified religious system will be all religions together but interpreted by the new age movement based on evolution, and people can still evolve, and want the New Age Christ to cause them to evolve through the power of nature to be greater and spiritual.

When the unified religious system is operating on earth it is a hate crime to preach anything contrary to that punishable in the international criminal court system, and Christianity will decline in impacting the world with the truth.

This will spark a war between Islam and the world in which nuclear weapons devastate the Arab countries, and one third of the population dies mainly in the Arab countries, and causes the people of the world to accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.

So while the Pope and the Vatican might favor the religion of Islam they actually want to bring it down for it is against their agenda of the operation of the world according to the new age movement which when the people of the world that does not love God follow the beast then they will make war against Christianity, for Islam and Christianity both believe in a personal God, and the beast kingdom does not, but evolution is the true religion, and people can still evolve and become an ascended master and avatar like the man Jesus, and the New Age Christ the final teacher in the evolutionary process.

The Catholic Church's foundation is pagan and that is how they interpret scriptures, so they are persuaded by that and can change at any time along the lines of paganism, which they identified with other religions all through their history.

They look like a worldly Christianity with their exaltation of the Pope and Mary, and all the practices they do.

But they do love God and do not think anything is amiss, but when the Catholic Church strays even more then many Catholics will leave the Church and stop following the Pope and Vatican, or at least stop following the Pope and Vatican which is good, especially when the true Christians can preach to them concerning the truth on ears that will be more willing to listen.

But the Pope and Vatican will still have a great following, especially with China and India and their religions, for at that point Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher in the evolutionary process and love, which will delight the other religions, and since it is based on evolution they have a common belief to cause them to unite.

During the reign of the unified religious system it will be the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts, power through nature to evolve, and God warns us of the new age movement and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, that do not acknowledge a personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power(1 Timothy 4:1-5, 2 Timothy 4:2-4, Daniel 11:36-38).
Why are you so compelled to preach false histories and lies against a Church you know nothing about??? Do you think by stepping on the necks of Catholics you get taller??? The Catholic Church does not hate you. Everything that is true in your religion is borrowed from the Catholic Church, so if we are wrong, so are you. Re-writing history to force fit it into your system is dishonest.

Opponents of the Church often attempt to discredit Catholicism by attempting to show similarities between it and the beliefs or practices of ancient paganism. This fallacy is frequently committed by Fundamentalists against Catholics, by Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and others against both Protestants and Catholics, and by atheists and skeptics against both Christians and Jews.

How do you like the company you are in with???

Charges of paganism cannot pass 4 logical questions.
THE PAGAN INFLUENCE FALLACY or Is Catholicism Pagan?

Anti-Catholic Myths and Lies:
#1 Emperor Constantine Founded the Catholic Church


This story, most famously told by Jehovah Witnesses and Fundamentalist Protestants, came out of their necessity to support their lie that there was an apostasy in the early Church. It is their way to explain how their reform and late arrival is justifiable.
http://www.livingbreadradio.com/201...-emperor-constantine-founded-catholic-church/


PLEASE, if you are too suspicious of my links, at least check with any encyclopedia in the world to see if your historical falsehoods are true and avoid making a fool of yourself. Bearing false witness violates the 9th Commandment, and persecuting Catholicism the way you do is not of God.

THE-LARGEST-CHARITABLE-INSTITUTION.jpg

Which of these, out of your "Bible Christian hatred" for the Catholic Church would you like to burn down first???
 
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Why are you so compelled to preach false histories and lies against a Church you know nothing about??? Do you think by stepping on the necks of Catholics you get taller??? The Catholic Church does not hate you. Everything that is true in your religion is borrowed from the Catholic Church, so if we are wrong, so are you. Re-writing history to force fit it into your system is dishonest.
I am not against Catholics for they love God, but against the Pope and the Vatican, and many Catholics will stop following them in the future, for they are trying to lead the Catholic Church towards the belief of the new age movement slowly, which is the future for this sinful world.

And everything in anybody's religion should come from the Bible, and the Catholic Church does many things that the Bible is against, which they are like the Pharisees and their traditions.

Mat 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Mat 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Luk 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
Luk 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Jesus said do not exalt Mary for all the saints are as blessed as her, and Jesus said born of women there has not been a greater than John the Baptist, not Mary, for she does not get blessed any more than any other saint for we all have our labor from the Lord.

And Jesus said call no man on earth father in a spiritual sense, although you can call your natural parent father, and Jesus told a man why call me good when there is only one good and that is God, and Christ is the head of the Church, so why do they call the Pope, Holy Father.

The Catholic Church has pagan roots and that is how they interpret scriptures, and because they were popular years ago does not mean they are the truth, and they went about fighting for the kingdom of God by physical force, and persecuting people, which Jesus said do not do.
 

Jackson123

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#37
It is obvious when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity they did not get rid of their pagan ways but held unto them and it became their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures.

So they can veer off at any time in their interpretation of scriptures in which now they want to bring the religions, and Christian denominations together.

They are being geared to be the head of a unified religious system, Mystery Babylon, which will be the mother of all the religions, and represent them all with the interpretation of the new age movement, leading them to the New Age Christ, which the Pope will be the leader, and the Vatican the headquarters.

Islam believes the Quran is the last chapter of the Bible.

It is not so much that they care for the religion of Islam, but favor them for the sake of bringing them together with all religions.

But the truth is the unified religious system will be all religions together but interpreted by the new age movement based on evolution, and people can still evolve, and want the New Age Christ to cause them to evolve through the power of nature to be greater and spiritual.

When the unified religious system is operating on earth it is a hate crime to preach anything contrary to that punishable in the international criminal court system, and Christianity will decline in impacting the world with the truth.

This will spark a war between Islam and the world in which nuclear weapons devastate the Arab countries, and one third of the population dies mainly in the Arab countries, and causes the people of the world to accept the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.

So while the Pope and the Vatican might favor the religion of Islam they actually want to bring it down for it is against their agenda of the operation of the world according to the new age movement which when the people of the world that does not love God follow the beast then they will make war against Christianity, for Islam and Christianity both believe in a personal God, and the beast kingdom does not, but evolution is the true religion, and people can still evolve and become an ascended master and avatar like the man Jesus, and the New Age Christ the final teacher in the evolutionary process.

The Catholic Church's foundation is pagan and that is how they interpret scriptures, so they are persuaded by that and can change at any time along the lines of paganism, which they identified with other religions all through their history.

They look like a worldly Christianity with their exaltation of the Pope and Mary, and all the practices they do.

But they do love God and do not think anything is amiss, but when the Catholic Church strays even more then many Catholics will leave the Church and stop following the Pope and Vatican, or at least stop following the Pope and Vatican which is good, especially when the true Christians can preach to them concerning the truth on ears that will be more willing to listen.

But the Pope and Vatican will still have a great following, especially with China and India and their religions, for at that point Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher in the evolutionary process and love, which will delight the other religions, and since it is based on evolution they have a common belief to cause them to unite.

During the reign of the unified religious system it will be the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts, power through nature to evolve, and God warns us of the new age movement and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, that do not acknowledge a personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power(1 Timothy 4:1-5, 2 Timothy 4:2-4, Daniel 11:36-38).
To me this ia love in action.

You try the best you can to warn people in the wrong direction for their benefide, they may hate you AS a result. Christ love people and try to save them but instead of Thank, they kill Him oN the cross.

Keep loving them brother, Jesus say love your enemy, love people that hate you.
 

Jackson123

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I am not against Catholics for they love God, but against the Pope and the Vatican, and many Catholics will stop following them in the future, for they are trying to lead the Catholic Church towards the belief of the new age movement slowly, which is the future for this sinful world.

And everything in anybody's religion should come from the Bible, and the Catholic Church does many things that the Bible is against, which they are like the Pharisees and their traditions.

Mat 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Mat 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Luk 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
Luk 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Jesus said do not exalt Mary for all the saints are as blessed as her, and Jesus said born of women there has not been a greater than John the Baptist, not Mary, for she does not get blessed any more than any other saint for we all have our labor from the Lord.

And Jesus said call no man on earth father in a spiritual sense, although you can call your natural parent father, and Jesus told a man why call me good when there is only one good and that is God, and Christ is the head of the Church, so why do they call the Pope, Holy Father.

The Catholic Church has pagan roots and that is how they interpret scriptures, and because they were popular years ago does not mean they are the truth, and they went about fighting for the kingdom of God by physical force, and persecuting people, which Jesus said do not do.
Seem to me they love God but some one direct them to the wrong Jesus, not Jesus in the bible.
 

Jackson123

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I understand No body perfect, me either. I am a sinner to.

I know the water I drink is not bactery free, It doesn't mean I drink SE Wage water.

Jesus God is the very foundation of christianity. If one agree that Abraham god is mohammad god that say Jesus is not god, to me like drink from sewage water.

Drink Coke is not healthy because we drink Coke and we know It is not healthy do not make be drink SeWage water

You may ask me question, you not drink sewage water because not healthy, why you drink Coke that is also not healthy.

ON A Scale 1 to 10, 1 is not healthy, 10 is extremly not healthy. Drink Coke is oN scale 1 drink savage water is 10.

That is why I drink Coke but not sewage water.
 

blue_ladybug

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First of all, the vatican and all the popes are corrupted, and anti-Christ's.. So are all the catholic churches.

Second, catholics worship
Mohammad, not GOD. They pray intercessory prayers to MARY, instead of Jesus. To be blunt, Mary is nothing but a pile of decomposed flesh and ashes. She can neither hear or answer prayers.

Catholics use rosaries and utter meaningless, repetitive prayers to Mary. They bow down to statues of her and the pope. They create shrines to her and light candles.

Catholics are very much mis-led in that church. They believe that confession and priests can forgive their sins, when only
JESUS can forgive sins and save people..