Christ-mass is Pagan.

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Dai3234

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I wondered why most people celebrate christ-mass when it was illegal 300+ years ago in America. And that people in the only testament were punished for tree worship/ Baal and grove etc.

Also, it apparently stems from Venus worship, a triangle covered with gold, silver, with a star above.

How and why do you excuse yourself???
 

Hizikyah

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Jeremiah 10:1-6, "Hear the word which YHWH speaks concerning you, O house of Israyl. This is what YHWH says: Do not learn the way of the heathen and do not be deceived by the signs of heaven; though the heathen are deceived by them For the religious customs of the peoples are vain; worthless! For one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They decorate it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, so that it will not move; topple over. They are upright, like a palm tree, but they cannot speak; they must be carried, because they cannot go by themselves. Do not give them reverence! They cannot do evil, nor is it in them to do righteousness!"


Colossians 2:8, "Beware that no one leads you away like a prize because of philosophy or empty, false statements, according to the traditions of men, after the elements of the world, and not after the Messiah!"
 

dcontroversal

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I wondered why most people celebrate christ-mass when it was illegal 300+ years ago in America. And that people in the only testament were punished for tree worship/ Baal and grove etc.

Also, it apparently stems from Venus worship, a triangle covered with gold, silver, with a star above.

How and why do you excuse yourself???
We drink wine and eat sugar plums soaked in vodka while dancing around the tree half naked and decorated with Silver and gold balls in honor of the sun and moon......how about you?
 

Hizikyah

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We drink wine and eat sugar plums soaked in vodka while dancing around the tree half naked and decorated with Silver and gold balls in honor of the sun and moon......how about you?
you would think someone that claims to defend the Messiah and tell others the are wrong so ofetne would take serious matters... well, a bit more serious.
 
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I have been waiting for this!

Merry Christmas to you!

Here is how I excuse myself: Christmas is a christian holiday, it is about celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. I do not worship baal or a tree.
Christmas played a part in me uttering my first prayer growing up.

It is actually hilarious to me how these days everything is pagan, the flavour of the month hebrew roots movement and the apostolic movement and whatever movements there be make it a point to tell us that we have been wrong all this time. Christmas is pagan, easter is pagan, you need to get back under the law, some even go as far as to state that the trinity is a pagan construct.


I would also like to ask what happens if someone celebrates Christmas? What are the consequences for it? What exactly?

One last thing: Christmas is the time of the year when the highest amount of people hear about Jesus and hear the Gospel, and this is negative in what way?
 

dcontroversal

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you would think someone that claims to defend the Messiah and tell others the are wrong so ofetne would take serious matters... well, a bit more serious.
You would think one who chokes on the law so much could understand sarcasm ;)
 

Hizikyah

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You would think one who chokes on the law so much could understand sarcasm ;)
I know you wqere being sarcastic, that was my point, is this not a issue that deserves a honest assessment?
 
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joefizz

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I wondered why most people celebrate christ-mass when it was illegal 300+ years ago in America. And that people in the only testament were punished for tree worship/ Baal and grove etc.

Also, it apparently stems from Venus worship, a triangle covered with gold, silver, with a star above.

How and why do you excuse yourself???
Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha is my response at the moment.
 

BillG

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We drink wine and eat sugar plums soaked in vodka while dancing around the tree half naked and decorated with Silver and gold balls in honor of the sun and moon......how about you?
Only half naked?
 
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joefizz

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you would think someone that claims to defend the Messiah and tell others the are wrong so ofetne would take serious matters... well, a bit more serious.
In the face of ludicrousness?
come on even Christians ought to be able to have a chuckle or two.
 

dcontroversal

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I know you wqere being sarcastic, that was my point, is this not a issue that deserves a honest assessment?

I do remember the words of an inspired apostle concerning people who have respect unto holydays and not to judge.....and do you even know my view about the whole deal...? Go dig up and read maybe my first or second thread (I think) that I ever posted on CC.......
 

blue_ladybug

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ROFL.............


We drink wine and eat sugar plums soaked in vodka while dancing around the tree half naked and decorated with Silver and gold balls in honor of the sun and moon......how about you?
 
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joefizz

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I wondered why most people celebrate christ-mass when it was illegal 300+ years ago in America. And that people in the only testament were punished for tree worship/ Baal and grove etc.

Also, it apparently stems from Venus worship, a triangle covered with gold, silver, with a star above.

How and why do you excuse yourself???
Actually come to think of it,considering your status,and presumptions,it's sad you would even ask such a hypocrite question,so I won't give you a serious response because you aren't a "serious Christian".
 

MarcR

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Constantine, who was never a true believer, intentionally paganized all the significant days of Christian commemoration.

You are not going to be well received, however because Tradition is important to many people; and most people are unwilling to think in non-traditional ways even when traditional thinking is clearly wrong.
 

Dai3234

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Hmmm, my point was generally, a fact that it was illegal because it is catholic and saint nick is catholic priest etc, who well, let's hope he was a "decent to children" priest and not the other.

Christmas is about buying getting having. Eating drinking being lazy, sweets, chocolate, presents.

All while people freeze to death all over the nation. Who knows, maybe one less pair of pants, socks or an orange in a sock, would be money better spent than on self self self. But then again, charities would probably use it for the Christmas party.
 

star

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I have been waiting for this!

Merry Christmas to you!

Here is how I excuse myself: Christmas is a christian holiday, it is about celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. I do not worship baal or a tree.
Christmas played a part in me uttering my first prayer growing up.

It is actually hilarious to me how these days everything is pagan, the flavour of the month hebrew roots movement and the apostolic movement and whatever movements there be make it a point to tell us that we have been wrong all this time. Christmas is pagan, easter is pagan, you need to get back under the law, some even go as far as to state that the trinity is a pagan construct.


I would also like to ask what happens if someone celebrates Christmas? What are the consequences for it? What exactly?

One last thing: Christmas is the time of the year when the highest amount of people hear about Jesus and hear the Gospel, and this is negative in what way?



Thank you for this post. The subject of the OP comes up every Christmas.


As for sin, anything can be made a sin if one tries hard enough to make it so.
 
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joefizz

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Constantine, who was never a true believer, intentionally paganized all the significant days of Christian commemoration.

You are not going to be well received, however because Tradition is important to many people; and most people are unwilling to think in non-traditional ways even when traditional thinking is clearly wrong.
Well I don't "care about tradition" my main remark was due to that noone would just intentionally "make fun of" the one day whether exact or not that represents Jesus's birthday if they "Respect Jesus" so I can't respect someone like that as a "serious Christian" traditions come and go,but Jesus did far too much for us for anyone to treat his name and birthday as a joke.