DANGEROUS TEACHINGS

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carpetmanswife

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I respect anyone who has all faith to be healed , and by faith alone , truly i do
God can and does heal ! BUT there are those who want to teach that if a person had enough faith or werent a sinner there would b no need for a dr or medicine :rolleyes:. This is a very dangerous teaching , God gives us common sense which is a gift we need to be using it here. People DIE and end up doing horrific acts because they were told , "have enough faith and that demon of cancer or demon of depression will leave" I say .." ever heard the saying too spiritually minded to be any earthly good?". I dont mean to sound disrespectful at all , im just quite flustered at this point
.. plz share your thoughts ...respectfully i might add :)
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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Amen! I have known people who have suffered needlessly because a friend, a church mate, a relative, has said that kind of thing to them. Let us all remember to seek God and HIS answer. Every situation is different.

Yes please be respectful in your replies. It's getting really discouraging that Christians can't be civil and uplifting when they don't agree.
 
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Lifelike

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Yes. who says people cant get healed WHILE taking medication? This "have faith, stop taking your medicine" attitude, and people being in a "deluded" faith state where they dont even truely believe in the depths of the heart, is quite dangerous. You dont need to stop taking your medication to prove you have faith. God in His mercy and grace allows treatments and medical breakthoughs to be released in the earth, and anoints men and woman in this profession to skillfully combat sickness and disease, but also heals by miracles and gifts of healings. Praise His name! Any serious condition that requires medication or surgery should be monitored by a doctor, and that bit of paper that says "you no longer have the disease!" is generally the time we should stop treatment. And the doctors will be baffled, and God will be glorified. ay?
 
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Jezreel

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We are all but flesh and God knows that. If a person has the faith to be healed, that is fine but they should not force upon others what others may not have. Going to a doctor is not lack of faith either. If you pray for healing and it don't happen, go to a doctor. In 2002 I refused to do chemo and take tamoxifen for my breast cancer and I am doing fine. I just had the surgeon remove the breast the leave the rest up to God, but that is me. I would not expect or recommend my way of handling my cancer treatment for another woman in the same predicament. I had the faith and in my heart I knew that I would be fine. I felt strongly if I did the treatments that they wanted me to do I would have been dead already.
I have heard documentaries on televison about the fake healers like Benny Hinn (lying signs and wonders) It astounds me how people are deceived in the masses after that man.
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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We are all but flesh and God knows that. If a person has the faith to be healed, that is fine but they should not force upon others what others may not have. Going to a doctor is not lack of faith either. If you pray for healing and it don't happen, go to a doctor. In 2002 I refused to do chemo and take tamoxifen for my breast cancer and I am doing fine. I just had the surgeon remove the breast the leave the rest up to God, but that is me. I would not expect or recommend my way of handling my cancer treatment for another woman in the same predicament. I had the faith and in my heart I knew that I would be fine. I felt strongly if I did the treatments that they wanted me to do I would have been dead already.
I have heard documentaries on televison about the fake healers like Benny Hinn (lying signs and wonders) It astounds me how people are deceived in the masses after that man.

Oh wow praise God! I am continually amazed how strong women are when it comes to battling breast cancer.
Yeah I agree about ''miricles'', all that glitters isn't gold. We have to know by what spirit people are operating in- not just see what we want to see.
 
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How can you say Benny Hinn is fake he's a man of God and yes people do get healed at his crusades I've seen it for myself. God heals them not Benny.
 
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Jezreel

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Oh my! His meetings are choreographed and very theatrical. I had to see for myself many years ago back in the 80's and I was so grieved that I had to leave. It is lying signs and wonders and there are countless souls deceived by this crap, and that is what it is, dung. Also, him threatening and putting curses on people who do not agree with his ministry is a dead giveaway. He is one of those wolves that twist the scriptures "touch not God's anointed" and he puts himself up above Christ. His teachings are blasphemy, especially about the creation. I am not afraid at all of making a mistake of discerning this lover of money and how he wastes that money on pleasures while there are poor ones in the body who are deceived into giving to this snake oil salesman. His teachings are so obviously wrong and twisted I cannot imagine any person who knows Jesus that would be continue to be fooled. Private jets, fancy hotel rooms that cost thousands of dollars for overnight stays. I can't imagine Jesus being that way.
 
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Definition_Christ

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I have heard documentaries on televison about the fake healers like Benny Hinn (lying signs and wonders) It astounds me how people are deceived in the masses after that man.
Romans 14
1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.
2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables.
3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself.
8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s.
9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written:
“ As I live, says the LORD,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”
12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.
13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
 
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How can you say Benny Hinn is fake he's a man of God and yes people do get healed at his crusades I've seen it for myself. God heals them not Benny.
I never thought a orthodoxed such as yourself would stand up for a false prophet such as Benny Henn?
 
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Jezreel

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I never thought a orthodoxed such as yourself would stand up for a false prophet such as Benny Henn?
At first I was hoping that she was being satiracle and was just kidding. She may be. I hope so.
 
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Jezreel

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Oh wow praise God! I am continually amazed how strong women are when it comes to battling breast cancer.
Yeah I agree about ''miricles'', all that glitters isn't gold. We have to know by what spirit people are operating in- not just see what we want to see.

When I let the onocologist know that I was not going to let them administer the usual cancer treatment, she got very upset with me and started to use "fear tactics" to get me to do the chemo etc. That was how I knew that what I was doing was good. Anyhody who uses fear tactics to me, lets me know that it would have been very disasterous for me to allow them to give me the chemo and tamoxifen. Women who have taken tamoxifen, it gets rid of the breast cancer but they end up getting bone or unterine cancer!! I have a doctor that I like and she had breast cancer and too the tamoxifen and now she has bone cancer. It is like how the media is also scaring people to get them to take the swine flu viris shot. The media is being used by the government because they do want people to take that shot you know! Really pray about and don't take it!
 
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Definition_Christ

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Jezreel and watchmen.. That is very sad.You guys sound like the Pharisees that chased Jesus around calling Him a false prophet and a false healer.

Could you at least provide a source of evidences that leads you to believe Benny Hinn is a false?
 
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Jezreel

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Oh my!! Jesus and Benny Hinn, no comparison. I told you that I went to one of his meetings many years ago. The spirit that was there, it was not Jesus.
 
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Jezreel

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I forgot to mention, I did not go there with the intent of looking for the negative. I did not realize that he was a snake oil salesman and a wolf in sheeps clothing. People who wanted to be healed were shoved in the back and security did not let them go forward for healing. He has people already picked out for his "show" for the healing entertainments. That was only ONE disgusting and sad fact of it all.
 
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Definition_Christ

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Well you probably had to assume that he previously *picked* people to be *healed* on the show. I'm sure everyone wants a healing. Maybe he doesn't have the time for every single person to get on stage? I mean you just have to assume that stuff. You don't know for sure who is an actor and who is not.

Zechariah 13:6
And one will say to him, ‘What are these wounds between your arms?’ Then he will answer, ‘Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.’

Meaning....The reason why the wounded aren't being healed is because the healers are too busy wounding other healers..
 
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Jezreel and watchmen.. That is very sad.You guys sound like the Pharisees that chased Jesus around calling Him a false prophet and a false healer.

Could you at least provide a source of evidences that leads you to believe Benny Hinn is a false?
That's not hard.
Not hard at all.
In fact it's very easy.
Just a quick google.
 
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Definition_Christ

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Not worth it. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
Interesting how that doesn't say "led by Google".
 
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Benny Hinn is obviously not led by the spirit of anything but Mammon. It honestly makes me sick and disgusted to think about the man.
 
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