Depression

[Scotth1960]

Is it a sin to be depressed?

I used to be going through depression, I've been out of it for a few years now but those feelings of depression have been creeping back ever so slowly in my life. I haven't found any Biblical reference to depression so I was just wondering if you guys knew anything about it.

I believe Moses and David struggled with depression. And David I think said somewhere in Psalms "Out of the depths have I cried unto Thee ...." Clearly, David was depressed over his sin with Bath Sheba and his murder of Uriah, the Hittite, Bath Sheba's husband who David put in harm's way. In Erie PA Scott Harrington PS I have struggled with depression since I was age 14, but medications are managing my condition. Prayer and faith in God and God Himself are my true hope. God Himself is my only hope. God delivers us from the evil one, from depression, and from all harm to body and to soul. God is good.
He is merciful. He can heal depression.

 

[ed]

Please note that part of your post which I highlighted. YES I REFUSE TO BE SICK. are the words. Lets talk about this.Go for it.
If you do not get sick then you can not die. Not true. Many in scripture just 'fell asleep'. They were not sick.
oh and just for fun.
How do you share in Jesus's sufferings? Being persecuted for being a follower of Jesus, I share in His sufferings? Why do you ask?

Hi MaggieMye,
What great faith you must have. To be like Enoch and just be taken. No illness. I wonder what is written on the death cerificate. Also you are blessed if your only suffering is to be persecuted.
Maggie it is not for me to challenge your belief. God bless you in this. But I will object with all my strength when I see you and likeminded persons damaging the faith of fellows in Jesus Christ.
Romans 14:21 IT is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak 21 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not from faith is sin.
Romans 15 We then who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak and not tp please ourselves. Let each of us please his neighbour for his good leadeing to edification.
love
edwin

 

[juliet84]

"There is no physical healing in the atonement or the finished work of Christ. SAY WHAT?? As far as the sick head and the deceitful heart in us, well, WELL??? we need to hide the word in our heart and be transformed by having our minds renewed though grace and knowledge of Christ." You, dear friend have just identified yourself as one that does not believe in the Healing Power of Jesus Christ nor in the FACT that every knew must bow to the name of Jesus...every body, every plant, every cell, every fiber, even every rock which have been shown to SPEAK with the vibrations that the were created with.

Praying for you.

Maggie

This is to support what Ed just said about you damaging the faith of other fellow in Jesus,..see the bold,..this is damaging,..Ill be praying for you so that He can humble yourself...

 

[juliet84]

And Maggie, I have a humble request that you please read Psalm 139: 23-24 continuously...God Bless you..

 

[MaggieMye]

Red 33 Post 224...OK I get what you were saying..I agree.

I believe Moses and David struggled with depression. Still no verse to support this? And David I think said somewhere in Psalms "Out of the depths have I cried unto Thee ...." Clearly, David was depressed over his sin with Bath Sheba and his murder of Uriah, Clearly you cannot imply that Ps 130 refers to depression because of the word 'depths'. Scripture does not support that David was depressed, only that he cried out from deep within himself.
Hi MaggieMye,
What great faith you must have. To be like Enoch and just be taken. What sarcasm you have! No illness. I wonder what is written on the death cerificate. My guess is 'died of old, old age" Also you are blessed if your only suffering is to be persecuted. Meaning?

Maggie it is not for me to challenge your belief. God bless you in this. But I will object with all my strength when I see you and likeminded persons damaging the faith of fellows in Jesus Christ. Would you rather that we say nothing and never teach that people can be free, that those who Claim Christ are to be overcomers and CONQUERERS?. Sorry, won't and can't. I'm called to teach...freely I have received and freely I give. If you don't like it, don't read the truths I post.
Romans 14:21 IT is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak 21 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not from faith is sin. putting truth out for those lacking knowledge so they can get free is NOT putting a stumbling block in front of anyone.
Romans 15 We then who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak and not tp please ourselves. Let each of us please his neighbour for his good leadeing to edification. Trying to justify NOT being a good steward of the Word so that people remain oppressed?

And Maggie, I have a humble request that you please read Psalm 139: 23-24 continuously...God Bless you.. How you judge! Amazing.
The Lord DOES know my thoughts. And Holy Spirit is quick to nudge me when (not IF) I get out of line. And He HASN'T concerning this thread.
...Humbly?....I don't think so.

Maggie

 

[juliet84]

And Maggie, I have a humble request that you please read Psalm 139: 23-24 continuously...God Bless you.. How you judge! Amazing.
The Lord DOES know my thoughts. And Holy Spirit is quick to nudge me when (not IF) I get out of line. And He HASN'T concerning this thread.
...Humbly?....I don't think so.

Maggie

I am not trying to judge you, I am simply requesting, if you think I am judging by requesting this, I suggest you read back all your posts and what I highlighted about you damaging other ppl's faith...That is judging that they dont have enough faith,..but I didnt mention you judging others because I do not want to put you down

 

[juliet84]

Again, this request wont do you any harm if you do it...and I thank you for doing so..

 

[pickles]

I hope I am speaking to this correctly.
I know some of you see maggiemye's posts as judging.
But I believe that it is the content that is being misunderstood.
We all suffer at times and some all the time due to the afflictions of sin.
Wether the illness is a bodily afflition or that which causes an emotional affliction.
One must give all to Jesus with faith in healing.
To often, when one has such things afflict them, they do not look to healing, or they use the affliction as an excuse.
When I was first hit with the disease that causes me constant pain, I asked Jesus for healing, but my walk was one of defeat.
I gave into the pain, waiting for some mirical, waisting my days, because I believed my affliction gave me the right too.
Then depression from the pain hit, and I sank deeper because I was letting the disease rule my life, defeating me, all the while waiting for Jesus to take away my afflictions.
I praise God that Jesus showed me that no illness can take His glory from ones life.
It was a healing process, but Jesus showed me His love and power is greater than any disease.
When I no longer gave into the sorrow of my pain, or saw that it ruled my life, and instead, gave all to Jesus.
It was then that the greatest healing came.
I have had some compleat healings of body, but the true mirical is that the pain no longer rules in my life, the depression that had consumed me was lifted, and I came to know in Jesus, that no worldly affliction can defeat.
I still have the disease causing pain, and depression still tries to sneak in, but all is set aside for Jesus.
I do so many things that drs say I shoud not be able to, because of Jesus.
It is not the disease or depression that is the curse or oppressive spirit, but that which one recieves in it, and what they do with it.
As some here have said, their depression is no longer in controll.
One has to see and understand, that the affliction or disease when given to Jesus, has no power over them, wether healed in body or in spirit.
Ones hope is always in both, in Jesus! But when one gives all to Jesus, the disease is powerless.
Yes, some afflictions are because of demons, and we must always be mindfull of this so we can bring healing through commanding these demons to leave.
But some afflictions are simply because of original sin, or ones own sin.
One must give power over the disease to Jesus, so that the disease, will have no power over thier soul.
This distintion can be difficult to learn, if one looks to themself, but, it is easy to disern, when one looks to Jesus.
This is, I believe the distintion that maggiemye is trying to help all see.
It is not the illness that brings judgement, but how one recieves, or gives all to Jesus!
But it is also important that one allways tries to keep in mind, that each person, sometimes has to learn this in Jesus as well.
And I know Im not always a fast learner.
Yes, Jesus brings all healing.
But as Paul spoke to, I asked three times for God to remove my affliction, and God said," my grace is sufficient for you!"
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles

 

[juliet84]

I hope I am speaking to this correctly.
I know some of you see maggiemye's posts as judging.
But I believe that it is the content that is being misunderstood.
We all suffer at times and some all the time due to the afflictions of sin.
Wether the illness is a bodily afflition or that which causes an emotional affliction.
One must give all to Jesus with faith in healing.
To often, when one has such things afflict them, they do not look to healing, or they use the affliction as an excuse.
When I was first hit with the disease that causes me constant pain, I asked Jesus for healing, but my walk was one of defeat.
I gave into the pain, waiting for some mirical, waisting my days, because I believed my affliction gave me the right too.
Then depression from the pain hit, and I sank deeper because I was letting the disease rule my life, defeating me, all the while waiting for Jesus to take away my afflictions.
I praise God that Jesus showed me that no illness can take His glory from ones life.
It was a healing process, but Jesus showed me His love and power is greater than any disease.
When I no longer gave into the sorrow of my pain, or saw that it ruled my life, and instead, gave all to Jesus.
It was then that the greatest healing came.
I have had some compleat healings of body, but the true mirical is that the pain no longer rules in my life, the depression that had consumed me was lifted, and I came to know in Jesus, that no worldly affliction can defeat.
I still have the disease causing pain, and depression still tries to sneak in, but all is set aside for Jesus.
I do so many things that drs say I shoud not be able to, because of Jesus.
It is not the disease or depression that is the curse or oppressive spirit, but that which one recieves in it, and what they do with it.
As some here have said, their depression is no longer in controll.
One has to see and understand, that the affliction or disease when given to Jesus, has no power over them, wether healed in body or in spirit.
Ones hope is always in both, in Jesus! But when one gives all to Jesus, the disease is powerless.
Yes, some afflictions are because of demons, and we must always be mindfull of this so we can bring healing through commanding these demons to leave.
But some afflictions are simply because of original sin, or ones own sin.
One must give power over the disease to Jesus, so that the disease, will have no power over thier soul.
This distintion can be difficult to learn, if one looks to themself, but, it is easy to disern, when one looks to Jesus.
This is, I believe the distintion that maggiemye is trying to help all see.
It is not the illness that brings judgement, but how one recieves, or gives all to Jesus!
But it is also important that one allways tries to keep in mind, that each person, sometimes has to learn this in Jesus as well.
And I know Im not always a fast learner.
Yes, Jesus brings all healing.
But as Paul spoke to, I asked three times for God to remove my affliction, and God said," my grace is sufficient for you!"
In Jesus, God bless.
pickles

Awesome story pickles,..I know Maggie meant well, and I apologize if I misunderstood the content, but if she could express it in a different way which can be more receptive, obviously my request I made to her is not judging of the sort at all but to help, and it is obvious also that most of us here cant be receptive perhaps mainly because of how she delivered her teaching...

 

[pickles]

Awesome story pickles,..I know Maggie meant well, and I apologize if I misunderstood the content, but if she could express it in a different way which can be more receptive, obviously my request I made to her is not judging of the sort at all but to help, and it is obvious also that most of us here cant be receptive perhaps mainly because of how she delivered her teaching...

I know your heart is good in this.
Im still not sure if I spoke correctly as well.
But as each day passes, Jesus has shown me that He calls all to bare witness.
Each of us speaks as Jesus reviels, simply because, His word is heard by so many different people.
We all see and hear differently , simply because of the measure of how open our ears are, and our eyes.
Also, so many different personalities.
Some need to be spoken to with hard facts, some through wisdom, some through heart.
But all that witness, speak so that the understanding of the word, is understood in Jesus.
I know sometimes Jesus has had to get my attention with the good fear, sometimes, He won my heart simply with His love.
But all witness is given, as scripture says, as if the Holy Spirit is pleading through us.
When we witness in Jesus, or read the witness, we must always be mindful that this is the word of Jesus , speaking through one.
Even if one is not always comfortable with it.
I used to think all must be said so that another is not uncomfortable.
God Our Father corrected me in this, simply saying that it was not about what I thought it should be, but about His word being given.
I still prefur the gentle aproach, but I now look to that which is God's message in Jesus!
We also must always speak to truth in Jesus as well.
I am sometimes amazed that any of us can witness or be witnessed to at all.
But then, God's Power is made perfect in our weakness.
in Jesus, God bless.
pickles

 

[ed]

Maggie it is not for me to challenge your belief. God bless you in this.
Romans 14:21 IT is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak 21 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. 23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not from faith is sin. putting truth out for those lacking knowledge so they can get free is NOT putting a stumbling block in front of anyone.
Romans 15 We then who are strong ought to bear with the scruples of the weak and not tp please ourselves. Let each of us please his neighbour for his good leading to edification. Trying to justify NOT being a good steward of the Word so that people remain oppressed?





Hi MaggieMye,
Maggie are we talking about the strength of your faith? Isn't it this great faith you have that has you die at an old old age free from illness?

love
edwin

 

[MaggieMye]

Juliet: "...That is judging that they dont have enough faith" I'm wondering if some of you have actually read my posts because you keep accusing me of judging other people's faith and I have TOLD YOU that is not the faith, but their KNOWLEDGE. At least FIVE times in scripture we are told that we perish for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

I'll have time to read the other two post in a bit, but I'm at a conference (Equippinng Conference in Arden Hills) and we've gotta hit Mcdonald before it starts.
Maggie

 

[Blueberry]

Depression is a chemical clash in someone's brain. If someone is so depressed they can no longer function, put them on drugs to help them regain some sense of hope. Anyone that tries to spiritualise that and condemn someone for anti-depressants is so cruel and harmful, it begs me to wonder where on earth the love of Jesus is in their hearts and lives.

 

[Buddee]

Juliet: "...That is judging that they dont have enough faith" I'm wondering if some of you have actually read my posts because you keep accusing me of judging other people's faith and I have TOLD YOU that is not the faith, but their KNOWLEDGE. At least FIVE times in scripture we are told that we perish for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

I'll have time to read the other two post in a bit, but I'm at a conference (Equippinng Conference in Arden Hills) and we've gotta hit Mcdonald before it starts.
Maggie

McDonald's?

Now THAT'S a SIN!!!

 

[juliet84]

McDonald's?

Now THAT'S a SIN!!!

LOL I cracked up big time on that comment..

 

[juliet84]

Juliet: "...That is judging that they dont have enough faith" I'm wondering if some of you have actually read my posts because you keep accusing me of judging other people's faith and I have TOLD YOU that is not the faith, but their KNOWLEDGE. At least FIVE times in scripture we are told that we perish for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

I'll have time to read the other two post in a bit, but I'm at a conference (Equippinng Conference in Arden Hills) and we've gotta hit Mcdonald before it starts.
Maggie

I read this post where you said "You, dear friend have just identified yourself as one that does not believe in the Healing Power of Jesus Christ"...Tell me is that not judging? You even see my request as judging...what more of your own comment..

 

[sensitive]

I just wanted to share the words and song with everyone here. I hope it blesses everyone as it did me.

http://www.andiesisle.com/words.html

 

[Buddee]

LOL I cracked up big time on that comment..

Glad to hear it!

A bit of levity was definitely in order!

 

[mizsilverbrass]

Do not feel bad about depression I had it to for years. however my pastor taught me that depression is not exactly a sin but a spirit of oppression. the sin is to be so self focused you do not see God in the matter. Put you can be prayed for and delivered from the spirit. And pray for freedom for yourself.

 

[ed]

Funny how you say 'receive medical care' and THEN have have in God. When I get a headache, I first drink water because dehydration is the number one cause of headaches. If that does not work, I put my hand on my head and say "In the name of Jesus, I command the blood vessels in my head to open and relax and let the blood flow the way God intended it to from the beginning of creation. If that doesn't work, I speak out and cancel all word curses and curses of witchcraft spoken over my life and cancel all assignments against me from the pit of hell in Jesus' name. Why? because no weapon formed against me shall prosper. If THAT doesn't work, then I seek Holy Spirit to see if I have sinned so I can repent and recieve forgiveness. ONLY if I do not recieve a timely answer do I take a tylenol. I can count on one hand how many times in the last two years I've done that. You see, the first thing you do is consider the natural: Have I had enough water today? Secondly, that I have authority over my body and how it functions. Commanding the blood vessels to open almost always works for me.
~And even better than tylenol is a banana which has potassium. Get it? KNowing the word of God and applying it is not beling beligerent to doctors. If I humble myself, it will be to the Lord and His directive, Not putting my health and body in the care of someone who often THINKS they are God. ...there is GREAT VALUE in any doctor that is willing to say "I don't know".
Maggie

Hi MaggieMye,
Can you help me understand this reasoning. To cure a headache.
Your step one. Common Sense if that fails
Your step two. Ask God. if that fails
Your step three Take a tablet. (western medicine not natural medicine)
You do not accept No from God.
Maggie your answers are all over the shop. Firstly you are on one side of the line then in mid stream you are on the other. How is a person to follow you?
Surely if you give your headache over to God you should leave it with Him.
love
edwin