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As i was reading the bible not to long ago, i discoverd that the bible was written in such a way that it has a deeper meaning which would not be noticed by anyone unless what we are instructed to do in 1 Corinthians 2:13 is carefully followed through. Who would you say satan was talking about in Job 2:5?? Only when i compared that verse noting the words FLESH AND BONE with Genesis 2:23 did i realize who satan had in mind and what proved it was what i read as i continued with the book of Job in verse 9. Can anybody else see this or is it just me? I also have noticed that the land, the earth, or world plus a woman appear to be the same thing to God. She became a barren wilderness as a result of satans lie and lost her only husband who was the flesh that covered her as the land or earth is by the grass and trees. 1 Peter 1:24-25 made sense to me for the first time. Let me know your thoughts on this.
 
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amen that is why it is called the living word, the more we read the more we see, the more of it we put into us the more it grows within us 2ti 2:15Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
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amen that is why it is called the living word, the more we read the more we see, the more of it we put into us the more it grows within us 2ti 2:15Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Amen to that sir, bearing always in mind and heart that all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.2tim 3:16.
 
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I agree that the word is indeed written in parables and has many a spiritual meaning, but I think you may have read to much into your interpretation. Eve did not lose her husband and his covering, she was beguiled and Adam lost the war against Lucifer. I believe what they lost was the spirit of eternal life. And Satan was thinking that man is dependent upon his living flesh and possessions. Yet God proved him wrong by showing satan that man had the spirit of God in him also. God does not equate a woman as being a baron waste land spiritually, for the she shall be saved in her child bearing and Christ was born of a woman. Eve was the mother of all living, Sarah was the mother of many nations, etc. But you are on the right track, comparing spiritual things wit spiritual.
 
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I agree that the word is indeed written in parables and has many a spiritual meaning, but I think you may have read to much into your interpretation. Eve did not lose her husband and his covering, she was beguiled and Adam lost the war against Lucifer. I believe what they lost was the spirit of eternal life. And Satan was thinking that man is dependent upon his living flesh and possessions. Yet God proved him wrong by showing satan that man had the spirit of God in him also. God does not equate a woman as being a baron waste land spiritually, for the she shall be saved in her child bearing and Christ was born of a woman. Eve was the mother of all living, Sarah was the mother of many nations, etc. But you are on the right track, comparing spiritual things wit spiritual.
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(Eze 28:12) Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
(Eze 28:13) Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
 
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Thank you sir for taking the time to comment. I have always thought that at the moment Adam ate of the forbidden fruit, Eve the earth or world, the mother of all and the HEART of man became a lifeless wilderness, such that we are all born in need of salvation. We need the flesh of Christ to cover our barren lifeless hearts. This is what i see as being naked before the LORD. Take a look at Isaiah 51:3, 62:4-5.The land is symbolic of a woman. Remember the woman that was brought before Christ in John 8? Christ bent over and wrote on the ground. Why? In Jeremiah 3:1 again God ties the woman and land together and He further discribes the state its in, in verse 4:23-27. Christ was tested in a wilderness for 40 days, the very condition of the hearts of those He came to save. Another intresting clue about a woman i found in the bible is in Numbers 12:1-12 where Aaron and Miriam criticized Moses and only Miriam was punished. God clearly deals with the heart of man. Given the fact that the church is the BRIDE OF CHRIST just shows how much danger she is in cause satan is after her to get to Christ.
 
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Thaddaeus said:
amen that is why it is called the living word, the more we read the more we see, the more of it we put into us the more it grows within us 2ti 2:15Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Amen on the living word. Ill never forget the moment when I became aware of how alive the word is. I was in my teens. Over 30 yrs later and his word is more alive and still holds a greater knowlage each time I read. Praise God for this gift. God bless, pickles
 
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Thank you sir for taking the time to comment. I have always thought that at the moment Adam ate of the forbidden fruit, Eve the earth or world, the mother of all and the HEART of man became a lifeless wilderness, such that we are all born in need of salvation. We need the flesh of Christ to cover our barren lifeless hearts. This is what i see as being naked before the LORD. Take a look at Isaiah 51:3, 62:4-5.The land is symbolic of a woman. Remember the woman that was brought before Christ in John 8? Christ bent over and wrote on the ground. Why? In Jeremiah 3:1 again God ties the woman and land together and He further discribes the state its in, in verse 4:23-27. Christ was tested in a wilderness for 40 days, the very condition of the hearts of those He came to save. Another intresting clue about a woman i found in the bible is in Numbers 12:1-12 where Aaron and Miriam criticized Moses and only Miriam was punished. God clearly deals with the heart of man. Given the fact that the church is the BRIDE OF CHRIST just shows how much danger she is in cause satan is after her to get to Christ.
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There may be some truth in the spiritual side of things you say, but you do have to match all verse to draw a conclusion. God had cursed Adam and Eve and the earth and the serpent and life did become a barren thing once they lost perfection and eternal life. Christ the second Adam came to give us back that is the true believers eternal life again. Magdalene was merely Christ showing the jews his power and he more or less wrote the 10 commandments in the dust to shake them up . 40 is a testing number used throughout the bible. I do not see any tie in in Isaiah with woman. Bride is the church Christ is the bridegroom. IN Jer God does make a comparison because they were his bride, He later divorced them.
Those He came to save were in darkness under the prince of the air, and that is what Satan is barren, lifeless, but mankind did have some blessing from god they had sun and rain, etc.n The heart is wicked, and men are born wicked psalms! Miriam tried to take over the pastoralship, she wanted to be the leader, to no avail. Woman are to be silent in the church because they are the weaker sex, easily beguiled, not barrren. AGAIN, WOMAN PLAY A GREAT ROLE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHRIST. He used Deborah to shame israel by making her a judge. The churches are referred to as woman. But today the churches are under judgment, God does warn us against Jeszabel. And OT warns againt the harlot. Babylon the mother of harlots Rev 17, is the church after it has gone apostate.
 
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You see sir, when God talks about the earth or world or even land, like He does in Genesis 6:11-13, He most often is always refering to the heart of those that live in it, which is what i find as symbolic to a woman, the very same woman that is symbolized by the church that Christ is going to marry. I complitly agree with you that the number 40 is a testing period. I also agree with you that indeed the church is under judgment of God. Who would have thought that the same thing satan did to Eve would be what he would do to the church by means of free will false gosples that only deal with moral and not at all the work of the LORDS hands. If we fail to understand who the woman is, then verses like Revelation 17 and chapter 18 may also never be understood correctly. Indeed, the woman is to be protected and cared for with love. She remains the most important part of a man, the very part that God deals with sir.
 
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Walter11 said:
You see sir, when God talks about the earth or world or even land, like He does in Genesis 6:11-13, He most often is always refering to the heart of those that live in it, which is what i find as symbolic to a woman, the very same woman that is symbolized by the church that Christ is going to marry. I complitly agree with you that the number 40 is a testing period. I also agree with you that indeed the church is under judgment of God. Who would have thought that the same thing satan did to Eve would be what he would do to the church by means of free will false gosples that only deal with moral and not at all the work of the LORDS hands. If we fail to understand who the woman is, then verses like Revelation 17 and chapter 18 may also never be understood correctly. Indeed, the woman is to be protected and cared for with love. She remains the most important part of a man, the very part that God deals with sir.
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Comes that time in the history of the church when this is happeniing.
(Rev 11:7) And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

(Rev 13:7) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
(Amos 8:11) Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:
Here is your church today
(Isa 4:1) And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
 
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You speak of the same truth that i have also seen and i agree with you. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us what shall the end be of them that obey not the gosple of God? 1 Peter 4:17. The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priest bear rule by their means, and my people love to have it so, and what will ye do in the end thereof? Jeremiah 5:31. Yet l had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed, how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?? Jeremiah 2:21 WOE to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me, and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin. Isaiah 30:1. Truely, this are the days when the truth is cast down to the ground.
 
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Walter11 said:
You speak of the same truth that i have also seen and i agree with you. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us what shall the end be of them that obey not the gosple of God? 1 Peter 4:17. The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priest bear rule by their means, and my people love to have it so, and what will ye do in the end thereof? Jeremiah 5:31. Yet l had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed, how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?? Jeremiah 2:21 WOE to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me, and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin. Isaiah 30:1. Truely, this are the days when the truth is cast down to the ground.
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Do you by chance listen to familyradio's H. Camping?
 
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Yes i do and for a long time now. Am well aware of the end of the church age and after, May 21 2011 as the day of the rapture and salvation as the work done by God alone to those chosen. I have not been to church for more than 10 years now and i would rather read my bible and through it listen to God and talk to Him in prayer. There is no one between me and God. Do you listen to familyradio yourself sir?
 
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Walter11,

Did you just confess a willful disobedience? You have forsaken the assembling of the saints for 10 years!! You really think that you can please the bridegroom while ignoring his bride? Beware.
 
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Although in 10 years of fellowshipping with God more than any human being I'm sure Walter has a firmer grasp on the things of God than the multitudes who sit in church every Sunday taking in heresy like it is candy.

But Walter I don't believe 2011 is right and just be prepared to admit and realise whoever gave you those dates are probably a false prophet, by the time 2012 comes and you realise it hasn't happened yet.
 
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In Hebrew 10:25, the words TOGETHER and ONE ANOTHER are not there in the original manuscrips. They were inserted by the translaters who did not understand what that verse ment Slepsog4. Check it out when you can and see it for yourself. What i find the church teaching today does not appear to be what the bible teaches at all and i found it hard to just sit there and do nothing. Christ warned that a divided kingdom cannot stand and that is the situation that the churches are in. I have no idea how many dinominations exist today, but one would be lead to wonder just how it is that there are all these churches that do not at all agree with each other and yet we have one God, one Christ, one TRUTH. This is why i chose to stike with the bible alone praying always for wisdom and understanding that i may have the strength to go through all the things that will happen and to stand before the son of man. So Slepsog4, i chose to listen to the bible and have a father son like relationship with God. Please note what Matthew 24:15 say, the Holy place can only be the church where satan is already standing as a false prophet bring with him a false gosple that turns God into an image in the minds of those that listen to them. Romans 1:21-26 say it all. Bear also in mind that the false prophets are people who have no idea at all that they have be decived by satan into thinking they serve Christ as we read in Matthew 7:21-22. How can i ever please the bridegroom if am not being faithful to every word in the bible that i know Him to be?
 
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Noah knew exactly when the flood water would came Mahogonysnail and so did that city of Nineveh know that they have 40 day to turn from their evil ways. To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. Just read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8. In verse 8:5 we read that whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing, and a wise mans heart discerneth both TIME and judgment. Surely the LORD GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets. Amos 3:7. How is it that devils know the time and we dont??? Matthew 8:29.
 
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I apologize for my spelling mistakes. My english is not so good and am not expirienced in typing.
 
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Yes i do and for a long time now. Am well aware of the end of the church age and after, May 21 2011 as the day of the rapture and salvation as the work done by God alone to those chosen. I have not been to church for more than 10 years now and i would rather read my bible and through it listen to God and talk to Him in prayer. There is no one between me and God. Do you listen to familyradio yourself sir?
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Yes I do, and that is why I asked you for it seemed you had some progressive revelation about you.

Lets hope more ppl do, too!
 
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Although in 10 years of fellowshipping with God more than any human being I'm sure Walter has a firmer grasp on the things of God than the multitudes who sit in church every Sunday taking in heresy like it is candy.

But Walter I don't believe 2011 is right and just be prepared to admit and realise whoever gave you those dates are probably a false prophet, by the time 2012 comes and you realise it hasn't happened yet.
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We get this info from the bible, God is not slack concerning the saints!

You have to maybe read the teachers books before you start to cast doubts with your preconceived ideas about God.
(Amos 3:7) Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
 (Prov 25:2) [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.
 (Rev 3:3) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.:cool:
 
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