Do demons possess children?

[Jackson123]

When I was young, abou 10 years old, I live in a small village in java, indonesia. One of the game we did is call the spirit to posses the kid. The candidate usually about 8 to 15 years boy. The candidate told to spin until dizzy and sleep, than other kid whispers a mantra. I do not remember the mantra, but I remember the first word say, siroladak sirolawe, than what I remember is I want you to be ..... what ever you want him to be. Let say you want him to be a driver, than the boy act like a driver.
my brother was skeptical and he test it. He told to the kid that say a mantra, to ask the boy naked, it was about 15 to 20 people there, and he did.

I believe it is demon possession, so I believe devil do possess a child.

 

[stillness]

In Mark 9:22, a desperate father brings his young son to the disciples, begging them to heal him of an evil spirit that "often throws him into fire or water, trying to kill him." (I have heard some say that today, the child would have probably been diagnosed as having epilepsy as a way for the medical community to explain it, which was just their own personal speculations--I am certainly NOT SAYING AT ALL that epilepsy is demon possession.)

In this case, the demon was apparently targeting the child himself instead of trying to harm or influence others through him. Again, we don't know the age or how it came to be that this spirit seemed to have specifically chosen him.

Even more interesting is that the disciples couldn't call it out--only Jesus could, and when they asked why, Jesus tells them that, "This kind can only come out by prayer and fasting" (Mark 9:29.)

There might be other instances I can't think of right now--if so, I hope other people will share them and give the references because I would love to go back and re-read those stories as well.

The Lord is telling his disciples, they could not cast it out because they did not have victory in their own lives, this is obvious.
11 years ago Turning to the Lord for help after backsliding {(falling in the water (the old nature)} in drug an addiction {(Also addiction for women (falling in the fire)}, the next morning woke up hearing, "This king does not come out but by prayer and fasting." A year before the Lord had told me: Enter in as a little child and put away your divided spirit. Was my divided spirit giving room for the enemy? obviously. The deception is that once deceived we give it authority, and yes abstaining is necessary, also the fasting is not so much from food but abstaining from being controlled by desire. Evil spirits don't have possessions, their power is to deceive.

 

[dcontroversal]

Well salvation can be lost, lets not forget Adam and Eve, or lucifer himself he is a perfect example.

UMMM.....none of your three cited examples even come close to proving salvation can be lost.....

 

[seoulsearch]

• "And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation? Numbers 16:22
• "Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, which may go out before them, and which may go in before them, and which may lead them out, and which may bring them in;" Numbers 27:16-17

While one can interpret the spirits of all flesh as being more than one kind of spirit in the flesh, or that the each body of flesh has a spirit.

• And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; Genesis 2:7
• And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. Genesis 6:17

There are no good words in the scriptures?

But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: Matthew 15:18-19


Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2 Peter 3:6-7

clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; Jude 12-13


43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Luke 6:43-45


For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

"Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God." [See Duet 6:7]
"... and much study is a weariness of the flesh." Eccl 12:12

To be honest, I think you and I are talking about completely different things.

You seem to be talking about spirits in the sense of every human being consisting of a body and a spirit; I am talking about evil spirits that are not non-human and do not come from God. They may have been originally created by God, but they chose disobedience, fell away, and became evil.

Unless I am misunderstanding, these are the types of spirits (evil) being talked about in this thread, not merely the individual spirits that we humans are (spirit and body together.)

In your original post, you stated that the spirit attached to this boy "was mute and not an evil spirit", as if a mute spirit is somehow neutral or "not bad."

My point is simply that the spirit that attached itself to the boy in Mark 9 was indeed, and without question, an evil spirit.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Generally, this discussion suffers from the introduction of the term "possess". It always causes strife, because some will claim that Christians can't be "possessed" by an evil spirit. Frankly, that's a separate issue. It's helpful to assume that when someone uses the term "possess" (or a derivative) that they mean "significant influence" unless specified otherwise. This way the contentious issue is sidestepped.

absolutely

in fact, it actually goes farther than that. the term possession is in itself misunderstood because in the original languages, it is described as the person possessing the demon and NOT the demon possessing the person

of course demons can bother children and in fact why wouldn't they?

personally, I thought this post, by Miri, (#9 on this thread):

I suspect Satan tries to destroy us at an early age as possible, look at all the
evil things that are done to children.

Many difficult troubling mindsets are also formed in the childhood years and early adult hood,
people struggle with them the rest of their lives.

What a blessing to be brought up in a proper functioning Christian family. Many no longer
get that opportunity.

to be the most insightful and just plain common sense response to this over the top filled with personal opinions and very little biblical truth thread

take away the word possession. use influenced, use attacked by, use bothered and you may have a truer picture of what actually does go on

and yes I do know something of which I write here. but I see no point in hashing it out...I have in times past, but it seems people prefer to hang onto preconceived notions gathered from hollywood horror movies

demons exist, they bother anyone they can and under the right circumstances will absolutely infiltrate the life of a child or anyone else

this is not written to you personally Dino, but your post gave opportunity to look closer at the misused word 'possessed'

it's not hollywood folks, but the devil does not play 'fair' and he still has child sacrifice and probably more than ever before

now we just call it 'abortion'

 

[beastslayer1970]

UMMM.....none of your three cited examples even come close to proving salvation can be lost.....

move this to your OP, not by works, lets not derail this one.

 

[beastslayer1970]

absolutely

in fact, it actually goes farther than that. the term possession is in itself misunderstood because in the original languages, it is described as the person possessing the demon and NOT the demon possessing the person

of course demons can bother children and in fact why wouldn't they?

personally, I thought this post, by Miri, (#9 on this thread):



to be the most insightful and just plain common sense response to this over the top filled with personal opinions and very little biblical truth thread

take away the word possession. use influenced, use attacked by, use bothered and you may have a truer picture of what actually does go on

and yes I do know something of which I write here. but I see no point in hashing it out...I have in times past, but it seems people prefer to hang onto preconceived notions gathered from hollywood horror movies

demons exist, they bother anyone they can and under the right circumstances will absolutely infiltrate the life of a child or anyone else

this is not written to you personally Dino, but your post gave opportunity to look closer at the misused word 'possessed'

it's not hollywood folks, but the devil does not play 'fair' and he still has child sacrifice and probably more than ever before

now we just call it 'abortion'

You would be correct,
The proper term is demonization or demonized not possessed or possession. A Christian can be demonized in their mind and body, but not in their spirit

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You would be correct,
The proper term is demonization or demonized not possessed or possession. A Christian can be demonized in their mind and body, but not in their spirit

yup

and more than people might want to know

sadly the spiritual armor of many is resting by the wayside and they don't understand how they got derailed or how devious their spiritual enemies are

it's not a focus on these things either. it is always a focus on Jesus...the Author & Finisher of our faith

 

[toinena]

I am not sure about infants, but teenagers I think it is possible. And I am sad to say I have experienced some that I am quite sure was spiritual and certainly not from God. Not everything can be explained scientifically. Some issues, also with kids, are spiritual. And if you call them evil spirits or demons, I think it is the same thing.

 

[beastslayer1970]

yup

and more than people might want to know

sadly the spiritual armor of many is resting by the wayside and they don't understand how they got derailed or how devious their spiritual enemies are

it's not a focus on these things either. it is always a focus on Jesus...the Author & Finisher of our faith

We will not go into all the open doors to seducing spirits the media companies posing as churches have opened lately

 

[mj007]

I think once anyone reaches puberty they become a more vulnerable and weak state. I mean that's where the challenge starts right? I know I failed in my teens, getting into the wrong crowd, drinking, partying, the ladies, sexual-insecurity, self-esteem, self-confidence. Fun at the time, but really I was on the wrong path.

I think together with technology, children are no longer children at a far earlier age. The traditional and pure human is a rare thing of the past. You only have to look at movies, and games, and how this has shifted. Supply and demand, what do young people wants these days? They want crap, they want to be stimulated, and they are happy with cheap humour. Not all of them, but this is the Deadpool mainstream.

 

[joefizz]

Well salvation can be lost, lets not forget Adam and Eve, or lucifer himself he is a perfect example.

Hahaha this is the biggest laugh yet about salvation,you actually believe that adam and eve lost their salvation just because they started dieing and were cast out of the garden of eden?
how ridiculous,so ridiculous it's humorous,that's about the same as saying that if your parent kicks you out of the house that you have no birth right or that your parents are no longer your parents,this is what is called "grasping at straws" because God didn't say even one word about them losing salvation or even if they had salvation,the only things established concerning adam and eve as far as promises is that they would die if they ate of the tree of good and evil,and that they could eat of the rest of the trees,sure they were cursed for their trespass,but salvation was neither taken away nor offered at anytime,there is a big difference between slowly dieing over time and salvation,salvation is the promise of eternal life after death,it is isn't a promise that you will never die which is why your post is ludicrous.

 

[mj007]

But you want to arm them with more guns! Lol seriously. Surely if God predetermines things, as many believe, then such things entering the church are a sign of the church, and the loss of its sacred power to protect all those in it, not a sign of needing to not change the church except for arm it more. You can arm a church as much as you want, a killer will find the somewhere that isn't. They will always find a way. They will always find something innocent, somewhere full of innocence. Do you suggest a world where innocence is dead?

We will not go into all the open doors to seducing spirits the media companies posing as churches have opened lately

 

[beastslayer1970]

Hahaha this is the biggest laugh yet about salvation,you actually believe that adam and eve lost their salvation just because they started dieing and were cast out of the garden of eden?
how ridiculous,so ridiculous it's humorous,that's about the same as saying that if your parent kicks you out of the house that you have no birth right or that your parents are no longer your parents,this is what is called "grasping at straws" because God didn't say even one word about them losing salvation or even if they had salvation,the only things established concerning adam and eve as far as promises is that they would die if they ate of the tree of good and evil,and that they could eat of the rest of the trees,sure they were cursed for their trespass,but salvation was neither taken away nor offered at anytime,there is a big difference between slowly dieing over time and salvation,salvation is the promise of eternal life after death,it is isn't a promise that you will never die which is why your post is ludicrous.

take this to the not by works thread and not derail this one.

 

[beastslayer1970]

But you want to arm them with more guns! Lol seriously. Surely if God predetermines things, as many believe, then such things entering the church are a sign of the church, and the loss of its sacred power to protect all those in it, not a sign of needing to not change the church except for arm it more. You can arm a church as much as you want, a killer will find the somewhere that isn't. They will always find a way. They will always find something innocent, somewhere full of innocence. Do you suggest a world where innocence is dead?

First,
God did not kill 26 people in that church, Satan did. God is not fear, firearms or capitulation. God is moved by faith.

Second,
I believe, first and foremost, we arm the church spiritually through prayer and especially during services and also by teaching people they have authority in the name of Jesus and can and should rebuke a murdering spirit in or on someone when evil comes knocking. We either believe Eph 6:10-18., 1 Tim 6:12 and Luke 10:19 or we don't.

Third,
God told us to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, because we are sheep sent to the wolves. God expects us to be Nehemiah in the church and build his kingdom with a trowel and a sword and with watchman on the tower who had sword, shield and spear. Physical security does not trump God in any way, and it also does not give you room to the devil for we are not ignorant of his schemes.

Lastly,
You give credit to a killer and Satan at your own peril.

 

[BillG]

Well salvation can be lost, lets not forget Adam and Eve, or lucifer himself he is a perfect example.

I would say with regards to Adam and Eve salvation being lost is not relevant to them.
When God gave birth to them, they were sinless.
At some point they chose to disobey God.
They were beguiled by satan and listened to him.
Therefore sin entered the world.

Salvation comes through Jesus as a result of him dying on the cross for the first sin that happened with Adam and Eve.
Thats salvation, reconciling us back to Father and as a result walking with him every day like Adam and Eve did before they sinned.

So Adam and Eve did not lose salvation.

When they sinned God already had a plan in place for salvation.


Genesis 3:14-15
God Indicts and Convicts
14 Then the Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this, you are cursed
more than all animals, domestic and wild.
You will crawl on your belly,
groveling in the dust as long as you live.
15 And I will cause hostility between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring.
He will strike your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

 

[joefizz]

Demons possessing children?
well I do think age plays a factor,but yes demon possession occurs to anyone particularly who prefers a sin filled life style I have seen this possession multiple times in adults but,children though I haven't witnessed such a thing,just the usual things like wanting everything to be theirs ya know phase type stuff,I have yet to see a child do anything horrendous as that it can be classified as demon possession,but I don't think it's impossible,after all hate can build up at nearly any age and satan works through that hate for possession.

 

[joefizz]

But you want to arm them with more guns! Lol seriously. Surely if God predetermines things, as many believe, then such things entering the church are a sign of the church, and the loss of its sacred power to protect all those in it, not a sign of needing to not change the church except for arm it more. You can arm a church as much as you want, a killer will find the somewhere that isn't. They will always find a way. They will always find something innocent, somewhere full of innocence. Do you suggest a world where innocence is dead?

Well churches today in essence are just "buildings" they have no sacred power and don't keep you safe,God protects, not a church,if you come with one mind and one accord then it is likely that God will protect all in the church,the more of the holy spirit there is the more likely a church becomes safe,the church is the people not the building.

 

[mj007]

A church is a gathering of people. As for the building that houses those people, it is a point of gathering that holds sacred power because of that. But if this gathering is corrupted then it holds no sacred power, and then why would God protect it? I think most churches are corrupted these days especially in America. And if you really feel the need to carry a weapon to church, well, you are part of the pollution of something which is supposed to be sacred and pure. By all means have people guard the church from outside if you feel the need, but why does God require weapons during a gathering which should be a faith in God and peace, not paranoia of possible war and conflict where blood will be shed? It is impure.

Well churches today in essence are just "buildings" they have no sacred power and don't keep you safe,God protects, not a church,if you come with one mind and one accord then it is likely that God will protect all in the church,the more of the holy spirit there is the more likely a church becomes safe,the church is the people not the building.

 

[beastslayer1970]

A church is a gathering of people. As for the building that houses those people, it is a point of gathering that holds sacred power because of that. But if this gathering is corrupted then it holds no sacred power, and then why would God protect it? I think most churches are corrupted these days especially in America. And if you really feel the need to carry a weapon to church, well, you are part of the pollution of something which is supposed to be sacred and pure. By all means have people guard the church from outside if you feel the need, but why does God require weapons during a gathering which should be a faith in God and peace, not paranoia of possible war and conflict where blood will be shed? It is impure.

I will refrain from taking offense at this post. Somebody has to be the spiritual grown up.