Do Jews Need Jesus? A Response to John Hagee and CUFI (Christians United for Israel)

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Linda70

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John Hagee of CUFI (Christians United for Israel) says that Jews don't need Jesus for salvation. We, as Jewish Israeli believers in Jesus, would like to challenge you otherwise!

[video=youtube;ONGbCYq4kOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGbCYq4kOw[/video]

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 
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Linda70 said:
John Hagee of CUFI (Christians United for Israel) says that Jews don't need Jesus for salvation. We, as Jewish Israeli believers in Jesus, would like to challenge you otherwise
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I do not believe you have made your case. What from the verse you posted:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

...says that it is required to believe the English name for Christ?
 
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I do not believe you have made your case. What from the verse you posted:

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

...says that it is required to believe the English name for Christ?
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Do you have a problem believing on the name of Jesus Christ?

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

It matters not what YOU believe.....What matters is what God says.
 
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john832 said:
The problem is John Hagee says...
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I don't listen to what John Hagee says. The video is in response to John Hagee's false dual covenant theology.
 
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Linda70 said:
I don't listen to what John Hagee says. The video is in response to John Hagee's false dual covenant theology.
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I understand that. It was meant as a left handed comment about the veracity of John Hagee's statements.
 
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Linda70 said:
Do you have a problem believing on the name of Jesus Christ?
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Not at all. I have a problem with people adding their own views into scripture, perverting it.

Linda70 said:
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

It matters not what YOU believe.....What matters is what God says.
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A man wrote the book of Acts. It is not a copy of what "God says", but of what a man said.

God says that you will be judged to salvation or damnation by what you say and do. He does not say that you have to believe like you believe.
 
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John Hagee also says I'm going to hell because I chose to be a stay-at-home dad. The Bible says no such thing, and the verse he used to support his view had nothing to do with which parent stayed home to take care of the kids. I have been a born-again believer since I was 10 years old, and I have always felt His guiding hand correct me when about to make a poor choice. But I have been an at-home parent for five years now. Why would God let me get away with it this long if He had a problem with it? "Provide" does not always mean providing money. Hagee is a nut.
 
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The whole Jewish economy was built on the lamb sacrifice slain for the sins of the world.
Yes the Jews need to accept their messiah YAHshua Jesus.
 
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Dwark said:
Not at all. I have a problem with people adding their own views into scripture, perverting it.



A man wrote the book of Acts. It is not a copy of what "God says", but of what a man said.

God says that you will be judged to salvation or damnation by what you say and do. He does not say that you have to believe like you believe.
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Acts, Romans - any of the letters, are as much a part of God's Word as the rest of the Bible because the book was inspired and governed by the Holy Spirit's leading.
 
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Linda70 said:
John Hagee of CUFI (Christians United for Israel) says that Jews don't need Jesus for salvation. We, as Jewish Israeli believers in Jesus, would like to challenge you otherwise!

[video=youtube;ONGbCYq4kOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGbCYq4kOw[/video]

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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Hello,

Don't back down.You are correct.

Phil.3
[17] Brethren, be followers together of me (Paul),
and mark them who walk so as ye have us (Apostles and the obedient) for an ensample.
[18] (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping,
that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
[19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly,
and whose glory is in their shame (their unrighteousnes), who mind earthly things.)
[20] For our conversation is in heaven;
from whence also we look for the Saviour, the LORD (the Mighty God) Jesus Christ:

Be strong.
We are not alone.

Grace to you.
 
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Tintin said:
Acts, Romans - any of the letters, are as much a part of God's Word as the rest of the Bible because the book was inspired and governed by the Holy Spirit's leading.
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Well, that is certainly what they teach. But what does it mean and how is it supported?

Where does God say this?

What does it mean to say that Paul's letters are God's word? Does it mean that God said it through Paul? Where does God say this is so?
 
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Dwark said:
Well, that is certainly what they teach. But what does it mean and how is it supported?

Where does God say this?

What does it mean to say that Paul's letters are God's word? Does it mean that God said it through Paul? Where does God say this is so?
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For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:21

All scripture is given by inspiration of God (God breathed), and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16
 
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john832

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Linda70 said:
John Hagee of CUFI (Christians United for Israel) says that Jews don't need Jesus for salvation. We, as Jewish Israeli believers in Jesus, would like to challenge you otherwise!

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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To cut to the chase here...

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
 
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Tintin

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Dwark said:
Well, that is certainly what they teach. But what does it mean and how is it supported?

Where does God say this?

What does it mean to say that Paul's letters are God's word? Does it mean that God said it through Paul? Where does God say this is so?
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What Linda said. Every writer of the books found in the Bible was led and inspired by the Holy Spirit to write what they wrote.
 
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john832 said:
There's your problem.
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it would seem it is.
but that part is not recognized.
Mr. Hagee just vocalizes the logical conclusion of Linda's theology.

nevertheless, it is a good video (OP)
 
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