Do not forget your sins.

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Not a popular statement these days, is it? Don't forget your sins. Remember them. These days, all I hear is people talking about how once you receive forgiveness for your sins, that's it! Forget about them, they are wiped off your record. However, I don't believe this is right, nor do I believe it is biblical.

First, why do people say we should forget our sins? Mostly, people say we should forget our sins because Scripture teaches that Elyon forgets our sins.

Jeremiah 31:14
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, 'Know AD-NAI'; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]G-d will forget our sins when we have repented and asked for His forgiveness. Does that mean WE should forget our sins? Absolutely not.

A preacher I like to listen to by the name of Voddie Baucham said something in his sermon entitled "Brokenness" that was particularly resonant. He said, "Brokenness is an appropriate response to sin."

We should never be complacent with our sins. We should never forget our sins. We should be BROKEN over our sins. We should WEEP for our sins. And we should never forget them. If we forget our sins, we could commit them again. No, we should be broken over our sins just as David was broken over his sin when he had his affair with Bathsheba.

DAVID, the man after Elyon's own heart, sinned TERRIBLY. Was that why he was a man after Elyon's own heart? Because he was a sinner?

No. He was a man after G-d's own heart because of his BROKENNESS over sin and DEDICATION to the things of G-d. Take Psalm 51, for example. This was written one year after his sin with Bathsheba, after the prophet Nathan came to David and told him the story about the man that stole another man's sheep.

2 Samuel 12:1-4
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]AD-NAI sent Natan to David. He came and said to him, "In a certain city there were two men, one rich, the other poor. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The rich man had vast flocks and herds; [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]but the poor man had nothing, except for one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and reared. It had grown up with him and his children; it ate from his plate, drank from his cup, lay on his chest - it was like a daughter to him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]One day a traveler visited the rich man, and instead of picking an animal from his own flock or herd to cook for his visitor, he took the poor man's lamb and cooked it for the man who had come to him."

How did David react to this? He was ANGRY. He stood up and shouted to Nathan:

2 Samuel 12:5-6
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]David exploded with anger against the man and said to Natan, "As AD-NAI lives, the man who did this deserves to die! [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For doing such a thing, he has to pay back four times the value of the lamb - and also because he had no pity."[/FONT]
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Nathan's response to that is, in my opinion, one of the most powerful statements in the Scriptures. He told David, "You are that man."

After that, David penned Psalm 51.

Psalm 51
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For the leader. A psalm of David, when Natan the prophet came to him after his affair with Bat-Sheva: God, in your grace, have mercy on me; in your great compassion, blot out my crimes. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Wash me completely from my guilt, and cleanse me from my sin. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For I know my crimes, my sin confronts me all the time. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil from your perspective; so that you are right in accusing me and justified in passing sentence. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]True, I was born guilty, was a sinner from the moment my mother conceived me. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Still, you want truth in the inner person; so make me know wisdom in my inmost heart. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Sprinkle me with hyssop, and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Let me hear the sound of joy and gladness, so that the bones you crushed can rejoice. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Turn away your face from my sins, and blot out all my crimes. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Create in me a clean heart, God; renew in me a resolute spirit. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Don't thrust me away from your presence, don't take your Ruach Kodesh away from me. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Restore my joy in your salvation, and let a willing spirit uphold me. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Then I will teach the wicked your ways, and sinners will return to you. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Rescue me from the guilt of shedding blood, God, God of my salvation! Then my tongue will sing about your righteousness. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Adonai, open my lips; then my mouth will praise you. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For you don't want sacrifices, or I would give them; you don't take pleasure in burnt offerings. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]My sacrifice to God is a broken spirit; God, you won't spurn a broken, chastened heart. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]In your good pleasure, make Tziyon prosper; rebuild the walls of Yerushalayim. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Then you will delight in righteous sacrifices, in burnt offerings and whole burnt offerings; then they will offer bulls on your altar.

My sacrifice to G-d is a broken spirit. G-d will not spurn a broken, chastened heart. THE BONES YOU CRUSHED.

Does that sound feel-goody, like most people who follow G-d are? Does that sound like Joel Osteen? Does that sound like forgetting your sins?

ONE YEAR AFTER he sinned, David still remembered his sins, AND HE PRAISED G-D FOR THAT! He praised G-d for CRUSHING HIS BONES over his sins, and he said his HOLY SACRIFICE TO G-D was what? A BROKEN SPIRIT.

If you are not broken over your sins, how can you testify to the goodness of G-d? If you do not remember your sins, how can you testify to the victory G-d gives us over our sins?

Brokenness is holiness.
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pickles

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As far as sin is concerned, it is an ongoing request for forgivness. Even when I think Im doing good I know I am a sinner. Thank goodness for Jesus and his grace. Forgiving is a daily prayer. By this God is glorified. God bless, pickles
 
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As far as sin is concerned, it is an ongoing request for forgivness. Even when I think Im doing good I know I am a sinner. Thank goodness for Jesus and his grace. Forgiving is a daily prayer. By this God is glorified. God bless, pickles
Exactly. Forgiveness isn't a one-time deal, it's a constant.
 

pickles

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What many miss is that it is an ongoing gift from Jesus. Also a continuos sacrifice of praise. God bless, pickles
 
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just to be clear: I´m not saying we should just keep on sinning because we know He forgives us, we are supposed to ask forgiveness and then try to turn our lives around. BUT but since we are often unable to do so, I really love this story:

One rainy afternoon I was driving along one of the main streets of town, taking those extra precautions necessary when the roads are wet and slick.
Suddenly, my son Matthew spoke up from his relaxed position in the front seat: “Dad, I’m thinking of something.”


This announcement usually meant he had been pondering some fact for a while, and was now ready to expound all that his seven-year-old mind had discovered. I was eager to hear.

“What are you thinking?” I asked.
“The rain,” he began, “is like sin, and the windshield wipers are like God wiping our sins away.”


After the chill bumps raced up my arms, I was able to respond.
“That’s really good, Matthew.”


Then my curiosity broke in. How far would my little boy take this revelation?

So I asked, “Do you notice how the rain keeps on coming? What does that tell you?”


Matthew didn’t hesitate one moment with his answer: “We keep on sinning, and God just keeps on forgiving us.”
 
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I don't know why God would say he forgets our sins if he truly wanted us to remember them.
 
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I think it's impossible to forget certain sins...only Christ can do that. It still doesn't mean that we should continue to sin. But we must understand that we do sin...daily.
 
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I don't know why God would say he forgets our sins if he truly wanted us to remember them.
Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more. —Hebrews 8:12
 
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Jesus Christ knew no sin nor was He acquainted will any sin in His humanity because He never sinned. There was no sins of the flesh, no mental attitude sins, no evil imaginations or thoughts in the mind, no sins of the tongue, no youthful lust problems, no besetting sins, no sins of doubt or a lack of faith in His Father, no giving place to the devil or temptation, no sins of disobedience, no leaven and no darkness was in Him. He has no spot, no blemish and no wrinkle. He was perfect in all things in spirit, soul and body and there was nothing about Him that we would even desire Him. And, He was the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.

When a sinner is redeemed by the blood of the Lamb that sinner is redeemed by the blood of Christ that has no corruption and has not been polluted by sin or iniquity of any kind. The blood is prefect and redeems the sinner perfectly. The sinner is not only forgiven but he is cleansed from all sin. The blood even goes so far that it purges the conscience from every dead work that was produced by sin and the flesh. The redemption that is provided through Christ is not incomplete nor does it lack anything. The believer is redeemed perfectly without any flaws.

Read Heb 9 & 10 ~ The blood of bulls and goats could not take away the sins of the people, that's why they were offered annually. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins Heb 10:3,4.

Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

The eternal redemption that has been provided to the believer through the blood of Christ has put away sin and by putting away sin there is no more remembrance of sin.

Heb 8:12,13 ~ 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Heb 10:14-18 ~ 14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15Whereof the Holy Spirit also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

This is not only speaking to Hebrew Christians but to all that are under the new covenant and the blood of the Lamb (Christ). There is no more offering made for sin because all sin was put away by Christ and there is no more remembrance of the sin that has been put away. What do we do when a brother is living in sin and it has taken them away from their fellowship with God? We go to them as a Spirit filled believer under the authority and of God's grace to restore them. We restore them by ministering grace and not pointing out their sin (unless they need it) but bringing them to a place to confess their sin before God and to receive the restoration power of that grace. Our love covers their sin and through redemption and the blood of Christ they are justified and sanctified and we do not remember their sin anymore by repeating the matter or bringing it up under any circumstances. That is how God looks at us through Christ and that is how we are to look at one another, through Christ.
 
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I don't know why God would say he forgets our sins if he truly wanted us to remember them.
G-d is able to forget things. We are not.

G-d is not the sinner that needs forgiveness. We are.

Again, how can you testify to the goodness and mercy of G-d if you don't even remember what He saved you from?
 

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Matt. 5:3 “ Blessed are the poor in spirit, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Forgive others as you have been forgiven.

Remembering all that WE did that God was merciful in forgiving should serve as a reminder to us when we start to convict another of the same. It can keep you humble and merciful.

Thank you Arel, powerful message.
 
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Not a popular statement these days, is it? Don't forget your sins. Remember them. These days, all I hear is people talking about how once you receive forgiveness for your sins, that's it! Forget about them, they are wiped off your record. However, I don't believe this is right, nor do I believe it is biblical.

First, why do people say we should forget our sins? Mostly, people say we should forget our sins because Scripture teaches that Elyon forgets our sins.

first of all who is Elyon and secong of all the bible say that God has throwed our sins into the oceanthus the term the sea of forgetfulness. The Bible also talls to forget about'em

Php 3:12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.Php 3:13Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,Php 3:14I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
 
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Shalom Arel,

Bless Yahweh for your post...and yes we must be transformed from the character/nature of sinful Adam (false-flesh) to the character of Christ (true-spirit), Selah! We'll be satisfied when our Heavenly Father is and this will be by the work of His hands...He's the potter and we're the clay.

Arel, by the fruit of the spirit we will know one another and I just want you to know I recognize Him in you...all is for Your Glory Father.

Abiding In The Vine,
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If you want to remember yours........be our guest, you got a load to carry.......Jesus Christ lightened mine !

I'm walkin' on air.
 
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The problem with today's teaching is Satan wants you to be happy with your sin.He teaches all continually sin and fall short of the Glory of God. I'm called to be holy and pure a total man in Christ not some virgin with my lamp half full of the Holy Spirit. I'm done with wandering in the desert and I'm going to the promise land here on earth. Heaven will come down to earth and dwell in my heart! You can continue in your sin and love your flesh partys dancing around in some kind of spirit. But I choose God
 
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Not a popular statement these days, is it? Don't forget your sins. Remember them. These days, all I hear is people talking about how once you receive forgiveness for your sins, that's it! Forget about them, they are wiped off your record. However, I don't believe this is right, nor do I believe it is biblical. But it is. When we leave things...our sin(s) at the Cross, all things are made new and we are clean. For us to dwell on what God has forgiven and forgotten is sin. It is His justice that when something is forgiven it is forgotten. Only GUILT, which is from satan, can cause us to hold onto such a thing. It is not God's way.

First, why do people say we should forget our sins? Mostly, people say we should forget our sins because Scripture teaches that Elyon forgets our sins.

Jeremiah 31:14
No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, 'Know AD-NAI'; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.

G-d will forget our sins when we have repented and asked for His forgiveness. Does that mean WE should forget our sins? Absolutely not. By what authority do you say this? We are to strive to be Christ-like. If Christ forgives and forgets, who are we to hold onto what is FINISHED?

A preacher I like to listen to by the name of Voddie Baucham said something in his sermon entitled "Brokenness" that was particularly resonant. He said, "Brokenness is an appropriate response to sin." True. But in that brokeness, we are to accept His payment and sacrifice for that sin and KNOW that it is no longer on our 'slate'.

We should never be complacent with our sins. We should never forget our sins. We should be BROKEN over our sins. We should WEEP for our sins. Agreed. And we should never forget them. Disagree. If man were to constantly be in remembrance of ALL of his/her sins, he/she would be of no use to the Kingdom of Heavenl. If we forget our sins, we could commit them again. No, because WISDOM and Holy Spirit will not let that happen. No, we should be broken over our sins just as David was broken over his sin when he had his affair with Bathsheba. To be broken is one thing, to remain broken is another thing entirely. We are forgiven and HEALED. To the rest of what you wrote: Yes, David was broken. But he overcame his brokeness through worship and right relationship with the Father. Brokeness requires healing. Brokeness demands healing. And though there were consequences, generationally, for David's sin, he went on to be a Mighty King and a foreshadow of Christ.
Maggie
 
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One question why do you put G-d instead of God?

do you not like his name ?



If God can forgive our sins then why cant we as long as we remember not to do them again & learn from them we should forget or atleast not grieve on them.
Why grieve of the past, ? why torture ourself thinking we are such bad people because we sinned.
 
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