Do you believe in speaking in tounges?

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FireOnTheAltar

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Scotth1960 said:
we need forgiveness and then holiness.
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That is exactly how and why the movement began before modern pentecostals began to lose focus which in turn spawned much of the moderrn charismatic movement. Believe me, I have had to endure harsh criticisms from liberal charismatic circles because of the call to return to holiness that the Lord has placed on my heart.
 
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FireOnTheAltar

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zone said:
rubbish. THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES.

are there Apostles today? NO.

start over.

(but you'll have to be willing to consider you've asked for BAPTISM BY FIRE (which means JUDGMENT) first.....that SECOND BAPTISM....which is NOT Biblical).
did God say He would send strong delusion? did he say He likes people who require SIGNS?

but too many are unwilling to do that. why don't you go forth and look for testimonies of people who have COME OUT of that?

you claim Sola Scriptura...and a literal interpretation. why don't YOU BELIEVE IT THEN?



i know the history well, dear.
i've been at this a little while.

i turned your "decades" back on you.

aren't you Weslyean? you were when you got here.



once i understand that?

here it is again: i no longer jab needles into my arms and swig from old bottles. i no longer steal and lie to feed my sinful desires......should i go on?

STOP with the infantile Weslyean accusation of antinomianism....you're still a sinner and if you think you are not there's NO TRUTH IN YOU.



too bad. that's what Charismaticism BROUGHT US. incrementally. but nobody was WATCHING were they....they didn't BELIEVE there would be apostasy and LYING signs and wonders.

you want THE GIFTS? you better believe in APOSTLES AND PROPHETS THEN....they all belong together.



you are promised eternal life and joy in tribulation.
you are promised persecution and trouble.

you are NOT promised supernatural power.

but you don't LIKE THAT ANSWER.
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Got some things to do but I do plan to address your post in order to clear some things up.
 
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Tifper

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Scotth1960 said:
No. I don't believe in speaking in tongues as it is defined and practiced by Pentecostalism and the charismatic renewal. Unfortunately, it is a strong problem and is a habit hard to break. I still "speak in tongues" as I was taught to do at an Assemblies of God "church". I consider it a psychological aberration if not an outright mental illness. I don't consider it a fulfillment of the book of Acts or a correct interpretation of the Scriptural gift of speaking in tongues. I consider it presumption and chaos.
It's a practice of "tongues" that I'm ashamed of. It is better to speak 10 words anyone can understand than a thousand "words" in an "unknown (unknowable) tongue".
What I believe in my heart is when I do this, I'm deluded by a false spirit trying to gain control of my heart and mind. I don't consider it a valid gift of the Holy Spirit. We don't need psychological games; we need forgiveness and then holiness. My new belief is about the charismatic revival as stated in

Rose, Fr. Seraphim (Eugene). (1999). Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future. Platina, CA: St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood.

God save us all from false versions of the Holy Spirit. Amen. In Erie June 2011 AD Scott R. Harrington
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explain? I am not opposing you, I am just wanting to know more about what you are saying.
 
resurrection33

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jonathanbchristian said:
Just wanted to see how many people believe in speaking in tounges, if you don't why do you believe that it's different than in the Bible where they speak in tounges?
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Paul tells us not to speak in tongues in church unless someone is there to interpret:

[27] If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn; and let one interpret.
[28] But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Cor 14:27-28 RSV
 
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