Does the Bible teach that life begins at conception?

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greatkraw

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what about the spirit?
we inherit spiritual death from adam

only when we get born again do we get a living human spirit

the unsaved are only body + soul
 
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charisenexcelcis

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we inherit spiritual death from adam

only when we get born again do we get a living human spirit

the unsaved are only body + soul
I'm not a trichotomist. Perhaps on a post sometime that would be an interesting subject.
 
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we inherit spiritual death from adam

only when we get born again do we get a living human spirit

the unsaved are only body + soul
He created man in His image not just the saved,
 
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greatkraw

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Adam was body + soul + spirit

Adam died spiritually

Adam was later born again but all his genetic descendants THROUGH THE MALE

are born spiritually dead
 

pickles

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One could discuss this issue for ever. Instead I would say... If God Our Father asked you this question how would you answer?
God bless, pickles
 
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What about babies that die before or after birth, from health issues? They DO have a soul, and a spirit. I mean, it's not just a being, then poof it's gone. They don't have a choice, and God more than understands that I'm sure.
 
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greatkraw

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What about babies that die before or after birth, from health issues? They DO have a soul, and a spirit. I mean, it's not just a being, then poof it's gone. They don't have a choice, and God more than understands that I'm sure.
Gen 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Luke 23
Jesus, crying with a loud voice, said, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" Having said this, he breathed his last.

God is Just

Jesus really did die for the sins of the whole world.

Innocents go to be with God because they have NEVER rejected Christ.
 
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Innocents go to be with God because they have NEVER rejected Christ.
Who are innocents? The bible teaches that all are unrighteous sinners before God. So you say they don't need to hear the gospel?

Also , your view that the unsaved don't have a spirit is completely wrong, if they had no spirit they would be dead. The old testament says the spirit returns to God, general, spirit.

"adam was born again" - nonsense.
 
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greatkraw

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Who are innocents? The bible teaches that all are unrighteous sinners before God. So you say they don't need to hear the gospel?

Also , your view that the unsaved don't have a spirit is completely wrong, if they had no spirit they would be dead. The old testament says the spirit returns to God, general, spirit.

"adam was born again" - nonsense.
Adam got saved!!!
 
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greatkraw

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about the time God dressed him in the lamb skin of the lamb that God himself sacrificed for the purpose
 
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Strictly speaking adam wasn't born again because adam was never born, but created...
 
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greatkraw

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Strictly speaking adam wasn't born again because adam was never born, but created...

I will give you that one,

but he was born (literally from above) when he was given a new human spirit to replace the one that died when he sinned with his eyes open
 
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yeah....all are born sinners....soooo...to sin, and have a sin nature...which we DO have when and even before we're born....means we have a soul. Those whom don't have the chance to accept or reject Christ, are the meek. The meek aren't held accountable.
 
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there's no evidence that adam died spiritually and was born again, scripture says nothing of it. Unless it's in some apocryphal writing I haven't read. Rather, 1 Pe 3:19 suggests spirits were in prison since the old testament:

1Pe 3:19 in which also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,
1Pe 3:20 to disobeying ones, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared (in which a few, that is, eight souls were saved through water);



proving a) that old testament disobedient i.e. sinners, had spirits, and b).. greatkraw is wrong.


Further proof that old testament sinners have spirits:


Job 15:13 that you turn your spirit against God, and let such words go out of your mouth?

So basically everyone had a human spirit , and the spirit is not something they get after being born again and everyone else only has souls, that idea is foreign to the old testament.
 
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greatkraw

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on the day that you eat thereof you will surely die
 
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