Does the Christian sin every day?

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Chester

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Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?
 

notmyown

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are we loving God with our WHOLE heart, soul and mind every moment of every day?

that right there makes me guilty. thank God in Christ the penalty has been paid.

i think at times, we tend to downplay the righteous requirements of the Law. not that the Law is bad; it is spiritual, and good. but that in itself can cause us to also downplay what a great salvation we have been given.
 

PennEd

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Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?
Hi Chester.
I think my flesh sins every day in many ways.
God's standard is perfection, and certainly if not on deed, than in thought, it sins every day.

The question on my mind really boils down to walking in the Spirit or listening to the enemy and my dead flesh.
I do not believe my born again Spirit sins, as it is grieved by the dead body it inhabits.

Who will free me of this body of death!?
Well... I think we know the answer to that question!
Praise Jesus!
Not sure I articulated this thought well though.
 

notmyown

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Hi Chester.
I think my flesh sins every day in many ways.
God's standard is perfection, and certainly if not on deed, than in thought, it sins every day.

The question on my mind really boils down to walking in the Spirit or listening to the enemy and my dead flesh.
I do not believe my born again Spirit sins, as it is grieved by the dead body it inhabits.

Who will free me of this body of death!?
Well... I think we know the answer to that question!
Praise Jesus!
Not sure I articulated this thought well though.

For you have died, and your life is hid with Christ in God?

:)
 

tourist

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Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?
I would say no, an occasionally stumble perhaps but certainly not continuing in sin. If one continues in sin and has no desire to repent there is salvation in the first place and therefore such person is a Christian in name only.
 
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I would say no, an occasionally stumble perhaps but certainly not continuing in sin. If one continues in sin and has no desire to repent there is NO salvation in the first place and therefore such person is a Christian in name only.
I'm pretty sure THIS is what you meant.... and I agree.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If one knows what sin actually is, I would say yes.

How can I say this?

If I know to do right, and do not do it, I have sinned, How many times do I do this a day?

If I serve self over others, I have sinned, Again, How many times do I put my needs above the needs of others every day?

I would say a person who claims he does not sin every day is still lacking knowledge of what true sin is. Which sadly I think happens when we strictly isolate sins to a set of rules and regulations (say like the law) and not to the definition of sin actually given by christ himself. which is love the lord your God with all your heart mind and soul (this should get everyone a few times a day at the least) and your neighbor (all you come in contact, even if they are your enemy and are against you) and not setting your mind on the things of the spirit 24/7.
 

Joidevivre

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This is a good question that I think about a lot. I know that when God looks upon me, He only sees the righteousness of Christ since I have accepted His work on the cross to deal with my sins "the blood of Christ cleanses us from ALL unrightousness" so they are no longer part of me.

But that leaves me with what about those times when I fear instead of showing faith? What about all those times when I am selfish and think more of myself instead of the good of others? What about the angry words sometimes spoken? Pride? Greed?

I look at those things as bad habits that crop up now and again. Habits that I immediately am sorry for and always try harder to kill off in my behavior. I even repent, but I do not think 'SIN'. I think they are just things in my character I still need to acknowledge and work on through prayer.

But they have a positive element too. They make me bow in gratefulness for God's mercy and grace. For you have to see yourself as less then perfect in order to fully take in grace. And recognize His mercy as the most treasured thing you have.
 

FlyingDove

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1 John 3:4 Sin is a transgression of the Law:

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Here in Matthew 5:28, Jesus puts law keeping on steroids. Adding/making thoughts a transgression

Ok, we've all have transgressed against God's law. No one can say he is not a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law.

Belief placed in Jesus redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death (sins wage paid in full), burial & resurrection (God's stamped receipt of approval) of Jesus the Christ. Takes away/removes our sin. Once our sins have been removed, there is no transgression of the law.
 

joaniemarie

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It's a spiritual reality only the born again believer has. How amazing is it to know that we who have Jesus were made into a totally new creation? When we were born again our old man died. The unsaved person has not experienced this death yet.

Here below are a few thoughts shared from a few other posts that are not mine:





When the Holy Spirit came into your life the change in you was like night and day. It’s like you were given a heart transplant. Your old heart, which was captive to desires of the flesh and enslaved to sin, was replaced with a new heart with new desires and appetites. Your new heart beats with new passions and they are the passions of the Holy Spirit. This is why John can say outlandish things like this:No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. (1 John 3:6)
that there is no comparison between the life we had in Adam and the new life we have in Christ. Sinning is characteristic of Adam’s nature, not Christ’s. For us, sinning is a part of that old reality that died with Christ on the cross. It does not describe our new reality in Christ.



Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. (1 John 4:15, NKJV)
God abides, he dwells, he stays. The moment you acknowledged Jesus as Lord, he moved into your life and he will never leave.


You are Sonful not sinful. This is how John explains it:
No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. (1 John 3:9)

This is not about your performance but your pedigree. Look at the verse again. Three times John refers to your parentage; born of God, God’s seed, born of God. John is trying to tell us that while Adam breeds sinners, God does not. This comes out clearly in the Message Bible:

People conceived and brought into life by God don’t make a practice of sin. How could they? God’s seed is deep within them, making them who they are. It’s not in the nature of the God-begotten to practice and parade sin. (1 John 3:9, MSG)
 

stonesoffire

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Just answering this title of the thread.

does the Christian sin every day?

maybe not, but we fall short of His glory every day.
 

Prov910

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Does the Christian sin every day?
Of course I can only speak for myself. But I try NOT to sin each day. And quite often I get through the day without breaking any of the ten commandments. But have I loved my neighbor as myself? I probably could have been friendlier to the conspiracy theorist guy who lives down the block from my office—the guy who super-glued every door lock on my building a few years ago. (Boy, THAT cost some $$ to get fixed.) Or I could volunteer my time at the Salvation Army homeless shelter. Or I could do any number of good-neighbor things that are within my capability, but I fail to do.

So, no, I am far far from being able to claim a sinless, perfect life. And that's why I thank the Lord everyday for His mercy and grace.
 

Locutus

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It depends on which lawyer is watching me...:p
 
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Does the Christian sin every day?

What are your thoughts? What does the Bible say?
Genesis 3:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP]When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

Genesis 4:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? [SUP]7 [/SUP]If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”

Something to ponder in Genesis 3 & 4- is SIN a choice?

John 8:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP]She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.

Something to ponder-Did the women ever commit adultery again?

Romans 6:1-7-something to ponder- Is this sinless perfection or telling us while we will still SIN, we have power over SIN and we should not continue in SIN after we become a new man?

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? [SUP]2 [/SUP]May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? [SUP]3 [/SUP]Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? [SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through theglory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, [SUP]6 [/SUP]knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; [SUP]7 [/SUP]for he who has died is freed from sin.

Romans 7:14-25-Romans 8:1-8-something to ponder, is Paul contradicting himself with what he said in Romans 6? OR is he showing us that that we have power of the sin nature, or is the sin nature dead and buried?
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. [SUP]16 [/SUP]But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. [SUP]17 [/SUP]So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, [SUP]23 [/SUP]but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, [SUP]7 [/SUP]because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, [SUP]8 [/SUP]and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 14:23- Something to ponder- is this whole chapter and especially this verse saying that sin is choice and sin is based on personal principals of conscience given to us individually by the Holy Spirit?
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23 [/SUP]But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

James 1:13-16- something to ponder- Is James -reinforcing that sin is a choice as God illustrated in Genesis 3 & 4? Is James also showing us that thought is not not sin, if it is carried away by lust?
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13 [/SUP]Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.

James 4:17-something to ponder- is James reinforcing Paul and Romans 14 here?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

2 Peter 1:8-11-something to ponder-If we are ever increasing in the divine nature, does this mean we stumble[sin] less and less?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; [SUP]11 [/SUP]for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.
 
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ruach

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Just answering this title of the thread.

does the Christian sin every day?

maybe not, but we fall short of His glory every day.
Colossians 1:

[SUP]25 [/SUP]Of this church I was made a minister according to the stewardship from God bestowed on me for your benefit, so that I might fully carry out the preaching of the word of God, [SUP]26 [/SUP]that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints, [SUP]27 [/SUP]to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. [SUP]28 [/SUP]We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me.

How can we fall short of something that is in us?
 

Chester

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Hi Chester.
I think my flesh sins every day in many ways.
God's standard is perfection, and certainly if not on deed, than in thought, it sins every day.

The question on my mind really boils down to walking in the Spirit or listening to the enemy and my dead flesh.
I do not believe my born again Spirit sins, as it is grieved by the dead body it inhabits.

Who will free me of this body of death!?
Well... I think we know the answer to that question!
Praise Jesus!
Not sure I articulated this thought well though.
Mr. PennEd,

I think you have some great truths and points here: I think I pretty much in agreement, but one comment:

You said "I think my flesh sins every day in many ways." - I think I know what you mean . . . and from one perspective you are right - but I prefer think of the perspective that the Holy Spirit through my spirit is working in my flesh to daily ongoingly become more and more like Christ in thought and in action. I think you should have started your answer with some of the later things you say, rather than with this statement. Not so much disagreeing with you but I am arguing that perspective and angle is important. It might seem to a reader by your first sentence that a Christian is just going to sin every day in a lot of different ways and it really isn't that important, does not matter, and can't be helped.
 

Chester

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If one knows what sin actually is, I would say yes.

How can I say this?

If I know to do right, and do not do it, I have sinned, How many times do I do this a day?

If I serve self over others, I have sinned, Again, How many times do I put my needs above the needs of others every day?

I would say a person who claims he does not sin every day is still lacking knowledge of what true sin is. Which sadly I think happens when we strictly isolate sins to a set of rules and regulations (say like the law) and not to the definition of sin actually given by christ himself. which is love the lord your God with all your heart mind and soul (this should get everyone a few times a day at the least) and your neighbor (all you come in contact, even if they are your enemy and are against you) and not setting your mind on the things of the spirit 24/7.
I think I agree with you EG, but would add one thing:

I do think that we need to think of sins as specific wrong acts and deeds that we do. Yes, it is sin if we know to do right, but do not do it. But rather than leaving it at that, what I need to do is ask God: What is it that you wanted me to do today that I did not do? Then make a list of those things!

A simply general unspecific view of sin (Oh, we all sin every day!) may tend to make a person think it is OK and normal for a believer to sin.
 

Chester

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People conceived and brought into life by God don’t make a practice of sin. How could they? God’s seed is deep within them, making them who they are. It’s not in the nature of the God-begotten to practice and parade sin. (1 John 3:9, MSG)
Yes, indeed: How and by what means would a person indwelt by the very seed (Greek "spermos") of God go about living ongoingly and openly (or secretly for that matter!) in sin? It doesn't make sense! It is incompatible and incongruent!

But evidently this does sometimes happen - believers indwelt the by Spirit of God go around sinning!

For example, in Romans 12:2 - Paul writes "Do not continue to be conformed to the patterns of this world. . ." (The "continue" comes from the meaning of the Greek present tense here. So it seems obvious that his readers (believers) were already following the patterns of the world (sinning!).
 

Chester

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Of course I can only speak for myself. But I try NOT to sin each day. And quite often I get through the day without breaking any of the ten commandments. But have I loved my neighbor as myself? I probably could have been friendlier to the conspiracy theorist guy who lives down the block from my office—the guy who super-glued every door lock on my building a few years ago. (Boy, THAT cost some $$ to get fixed.) Or I could volunteer my time at the Salvation Army homeless shelter. Or I could do any number of good-neighbor things that are within my capability, but I fail to do.

So, no, I am far far from being able to claim a sinless, perfect life. And that's why I thank the Lord everyday for His mercy and grace.
Hi Prov910: I like your answer: A few comments

(1) I think you hit the key thing I want to say on this thread when you wrote, "but I try NOT to sin each day"
Yes and amen a hundred times!

(2) You mention a lot of different scenarios that you could do today: ex. volunteer at the Salavation army -- and, yes, I see that, but I would say that it is not a sin that you didn't volunteer at the salvation army. It would only be a sin if God called you (by the prompting of the Spirit) to volunteer and you refused to do it.

I don't think we should make a list of the good things we could do and mark them all down as sin if I didn't do them.
 

Chester

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Genesis 3:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP]When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

Genesis 4:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? [SUP]7 [/SUP]If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”

Something to ponder in Genesis 3 & 4- is SIN a choice?

John 8:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP]She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.

Something to ponder-Did the women ever commit adultery again?

Romans 6:1-7-something to ponder- Is this sinless perfection or telling us while we will still SIN, we have power over SIN and we should not continue in SIN after we become a new man?

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? [SUP]2 [/SUP]May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? [SUP]3 [/SUP]Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? [SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through theglory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, [SUP]6 [/SUP]knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; [SUP]7 [/SUP]for he who has died is freed from sin.

Romans 7:14-25-Romans 8:1-8-something to ponder, is Paul contradicting himself with what he said in Romans 6? OR is he showing us that that we have power of the sin nature, or is the sin nature dead and buried?
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. [SUP]16 [/SUP]But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. [SUP]17 [/SUP]So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, [SUP]23 [/SUP]but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? [SUP]25 [/SUP]Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, [SUP]7 [/SUP]because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, [SUP]8 [/SUP]and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 14:23- Something to ponder- is this whole chapter and especially this verse saying that sin is choice and sin is based on personal principals of conscience given to us individually by the Holy Spirit?
[SUP]
23 [/SUP]But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

James 1:13-16- something to ponder- Is James -reinforcing that sin is a choice as God illustrated in Genesis 3 & 4? Is James also showing us that thought is not not sin, if it is carried away by lust?
[SUP]
13 [/SUP]Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.

James 4:17-something to ponder- is James reinforcing Paul and Romans 14 here?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

2 Peter 1:8-11-something to ponder-If we are ever increasing in the divine nature, does this mean we stumble[sin] less and less?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; [SUP]11 [/SUP]for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.

Not sure what you are trying to say here? Can you give a summary?