Doubting the salvation of someone just because they don't believe as you do.

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forgivenandloved

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#41
Whose place is it to doubt someone else's salvation? Should we worry about ourselves and bring the message to others? If they are going to fake being saved that's between them and God right?
 

pickles

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I made that comment after reading a couple posts from another thread which I did not comment on but did leave feeling a bit frustrated. Immediately after i made the comment, I walked away from the computer and started to prepare dinner when the Holy Spirit intervined and told me what I had done. I then took dinner off of the stove and came back to make my appology.

Do I feel embarrassed? Absolutely however, I find peace in the fact that God loves me enough to disrupt whatever it is I'm doing to correct me. To some that may seem odd but not to me, that's exactly the kind of relationship I want from Him and the sense of urgency I need from Him. I want to feel his heart in all things no matter how small or trivial it may seem and it is my earnest prayer that as children of the living God that is your request too.

"Confess your sins one to another..."

Amen!
Amen again, it is in total humility that we should not only aproach God Our Father but each other.
If I have learned anything from God Our Father it is that the amount of what I learn has little to do with what I know in him. I have learned and learned again and I have found the message is the same.
We can do nothing without Our Lord Jesus. (The vine and the branches.)
In humility we can truelly come to know God Our Father. Not because of what we do, but because of what he does through us.
To be humbled, brought low , is when God Our Father lifts you up, then know him.
None of what we say or do has any value or worth unless we are in Jesus first, honoring each other above oursleves.
What witness to Jesus do we bare if we exclude because of what another says in disagreement.
The greater witness is to live, speak, and treat each other as we are called to do in Jesus.
If we speak to each other about a concern it should be because of our hope and love in Jesus and the desire that all we know will share in eternity.
We also should always know that none of us holds the whole, that each of us carries a part.
But when two or more are gathered in his name, Jesus is with us.
God bless, pickles
 

pickles

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#43
Sometimes the better aproach is to ask a question of the person about the concern.
So that they may seek the true answer for themselves.
It is a truelly effective tool in building up each other rather than tearing down.
God bless, pickles
 
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#44
I wonder if you take in the consideration
of the APOSTLE PAUL and the DISCIPLES
including the first MARTYR STEPHEN
and their BOLDNESS to construct and face diversity head on
what they were to think about
A THREAD
dedicated to WHINY CHRISTIANS
crying about
what is and what is not........
AFTER the diversities these great men and women
faced and struggled through without WHINING
we read about in the BIBLE
makes you think
they WOULD NOT spend all day on a computer
and complain about someone stepped on my toes
I BETTER GATHER the rest of the chickens
and form an alliance
so we can CRY TOGETHER
in our DEFEATED CHRISTIANITY
WALK WE HAVE IN GOD

COME ON.......
BE REAL..........
 
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charisenexcelcis

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#45
I wonder if you take in the consideration
of the APOSTLE PAUL and the DISCIPLES
including the first MARTYR STEPHEN
and their BOLDNESS to construct and face diversity head on
what they were to think about
A THREAD
dedicated to WHINY CHRISTIANS
crying about
what is and what is not........
AFTER the diversities these great men and women
faced and struggled through without WHINING
we read about in the BIBLE
makes you think
they WOULD NOT spend all day on a computer
and complain about someone stepped on my toes
I BETTER GATHER the rest of the chickens
and form an alliance
so we can CRY TOGETHER
in our DEFEATED CHRISTIANITY
WALK WE HAVE IN GOD

COME ON.......
BE REAL..........
Hard to even know where to start on this one. Whiny is a tone, one which I hear much more in your post then in this thread. Spending all day on a computer? In the few days that you have been on, you have logged many hours yourself and you are a pastor. That's the really incredible thing, to call yourself a pastor, a shepherd. Do you know what they call a shepherd who is too rough with the sheep? Unemployed.
 
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#46
Hard to even know where to start on this one. Whiny is a tone, one which I hear much more in your post then in this thread. Spending all day on a computer? In the few days that you have been on, you have logged many hours yourself and you are a pastor. That's the really incredible thing, to call yourself a pastor, a shepherd. Do you know what they call a shepherd who is too rough with the sheep? Unemployed.

IF you notice I am on late at night
and since my hours are on the West coast that puts me in a time zone
different from most of you
BUT
what I do during the day
with all those who call me and the needs I help take care of is much different
and REMEMBER
I am the associate Pastor and the Evangelist
so most of the time I am traveling
and it is in airport lobbies and hotel rooms
you get my responses from off of my laptop
BUT
THANK YOU
for keeping track of me
IM sure it is best your QUALITY
 
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charisenexcelcis

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#47
IF you notice I am on late at night
and since my hours are on the West coast that puts me in a time zone
different from most of you
BUT
what I do during the day
with all those who call me and the needs I help take care of is much different
and REMEMBER
I am the associate Pastor and the Evangelist
so most of the time I am traveling
and it is in airport lobbies and hotel rooms
you get my responses from off of my laptop
BUT
THANK YOU
for keeping track of me
IM sure it is best your QUALITY
You are the one who made the sarcastic remark--you will be judged by you own words. And your best quality appears to be hyperbole--about everything.
 

pickles

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Apr 20, 2009
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#48
I wonder if you take in the consideration
of the APOSTLE PAUL and the DISCIPLES
including the first MARTYR STEPHEN
and their BOLDNESS to construct and face diversity head on
what they were to think about
A THREAD
dedicated to WHINY CHRISTIANS
crying about
what is and what is not........
AFTER the diversities these great men and women
faced and struggled through without WHINING
we read about in the BIBLE
makes you think
they WOULD NOT spend all day on a computer
and complain about someone stepped on my toes
I BETTER GATHER the rest of the chickens
and form an alliance
so we can CRY TOGETHER
in our DEFEATED CHRISTIANITY
WALK WE HAVE IN GOD

COME ON.......
BE REAL..........
You are welcome to step on my toes as much as you like. I do not need them as I stand in Jesus Christ.
In this thread I do not speak to those times when we must in Jesus Christ go to another over a true concern in faith.
I speak to those times in which any of us falls into speaking for ourselves and building ourselves in pride.
When did Jesus and to whom did Jesus show anger over the teachings of the word.
I speak to those that may forget as I know even I do that all of us are simply learning and that to encourage is an effective tool.
This thread was to remind each and every one of us that none are above another.
Also that Jesus loved us first, he healed first, he taught first.
It is in the love of Jesus that we learn, act teach. All we do is from him and of him.
It is not correction or true rebuke that is at issue here.
What is spoken of in this thread is the concern over the abuse.
One last point, how much time I spend here is not of your concern ,but that of Our Lord Jesus and my responcibuilities. I say this so you will know how foolish we can be some times.
I am disabled, I am homebound much of the time because of this. I used to reject the computer because I saw no use for it.
But because so few visit the sick anymore I looked into a christian chatroom.
Then God Our Father blessed me with a way to serve him.
Not just to learn but to witness to others that seek him.
Then he called me to pray for all that ask and even those that do not.
I discovered that even in serving Our Lord Jesus he still blesses us.
To give my time in prayer for others is a service that I am humbled to do.
Once I log off here God grants me a least 1 to 3 hours in prayer for others and talking with him.
That does not include the many times each day that he reminds me to pray again.
Normally I would have said nothing about this.
But Jesus put this on my heart for you to know.
In the love Of Our Lord Jesus, God bless, pickles
 
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#49
You are the one who made the sarcastic remark--you will be judged by you own words. And your best quality appears to be hyperbole--about everything.

YOU ARE CORRECT AND I DID MAKE MY REMARKS
BECAUSE
WE ARE VICTORIOUS
FOR
IF GOD IS BEFORE US WHO CAN BE AGAINST US
OR
GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN ME THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD
BUT
GENERALLY
WHAT YOU GET IN MANY THREADS
IS POOR OLD ME
AND I AM SOO WEAK
IN OUR HUMANITY WE ARE ALL WEAK
BUT IN GOD
WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS
BUT I GUESS
WHY LOOK AT THAT IN A POSITIVE NOTE
WHEN
IF YOU COMPLAIN YOU GET MORE TO FOLLOW AND AGREE WITH YOU???
 
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charisenexcelcis

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#50
YOU ARE CORRECT AND I DID MAKE MY REMARKS
BECAUSE
WE ARE VICTORIOUS
FOR
IF GOD IS BEFORE US WHO CAN BE AGAINST US
OR
GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN ME THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD
BUT
GENERALLY
WHAT YOU GET IN MANY THREADS
IS POOR OLD ME
AND I AM SOO WEAK
IN OUR HUMANITY WE ARE ALL WEAK
BUT IN GOD
WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS
BUT I GUESS
WHY LOOK AT THAT IN A POSITIVE NOTE
WHEN
IF YOU COMPLAIN YOU GET MORE TO FOLLOW AND AGREE WITH YOU???
Our battle is not suppose to be against one another. If you believe that you are called to be part of this chatroom, then I suggest you look to Moses who when the Israelites "whined" stood as an intercessor to God. Would you stand in the gap? If so, remember that you have to be focused outward on the enemy rather than inward on the people that you are entrusted with.
 
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#51
You are welcome to step on my toes as much as you like. I do not need them as I stand in Jesus Christ.
In this thread I do not speak to those times when we must in Jesus Christ go to another over a true concern in faith.
I speak to those times in which any of us falls into speaking for ourselves and building ourselves in pride.
When did Jesus and to whom did Jesus show anger over the teachings of the word.
I speak to those that may forget as I know even I do that all of us are simply learning and that to encourage is an effective tool.
This thread was to remind each and every one of us that none are above another.
Also that Jesus loved us first, he healed first, he taught first.
It is in the love of Jesus that we learn, act teach. All we do is from him and of him.
It is not correction or true rebuke that is at issue here.
What is spoken of in this thread is the concern over the abuse.
One last point, how much time I spend here is not of your concern ,but that of Our Lord Jesus and my responcibuilities. I say this so you will know how foolish we can be some times.
I am disabled, I am homebound much of the time because of this. I used to reject the computer because I saw no use for it.
But because so few visit the sick anymore I looked into a christian chatroom.
Then God Our Father blessed me with a way to serve him.
Not just to learn but to witness to others that seek him.
Then he called me to pray for all that ask and even those that do not.
I discovered that even in serving Our Lord Jesus he still blesses us.
To give my time in prayer for others is a service that I am humbled to do.
Once I log off here God grants me a least 1 to 3 hours in prayer for others and talking with him.
That does not include the many times each day that he reminds me to pray again.
Normally I would have said nothing about this.
But Jesus put this on my heart for you to know.
In the love Of Our Lord Jesus, God bless, pickles

I PERSONALLY FROM ALL THAT I AM THANK YOU

In the church I am the Associate Pastor we have a man with CERABAL PALSY
and he happens to be the PROPHET of the HOUSE-CHURCH
HIS influence on me is greater than anyone I know
and when I see him NEVER complaining
BUT
always finding more and more reasons to thank GOD for
I get inspired by him
He always tells me
I may be in this wheel chair for this life brother
BUT in the next
You will NEVER catch me
With his attitude and such positivity
and to just look upon him most see defeat and someone who is looking for a hand out
HE NEVER
uses his handicap to justify
the LACK
of reason for serving our GREAT GOD
SO PICKLES
I am sorry you feel alone
but
like my great friend
the Prophet JOHN (little john) WINTERS
I get soo inspired by GOD
when I see him make no excuses
THAT INSURGES ME
I FIND MANY OTHER reason to live for GOD that much more
AND
I forget
there are many
who like him and in his situation
HAVE NOT FOUND
that same great COMFORT and STRENGTH
in GOD
I DO APOLOGIZE
FOR GETTING CARRIED AWAY
 
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#52
Our battle is not suppose to be against one another. If you believe that you are called to be part of this chatroom, then I suggest you look to Moses who when the Israelites "whined" stood as an intercessor to God. Would you stand in the gap? If so, remember that you have to be focused outward on the enemy rather than inward on the people that you are entrusted with.

YES
I BELIEVE
when Moses stood in that GAP
HE aslo said
DID YOU FORGET
WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR YOU???

and as you see when they kept complaining GOD swallowed them up
by opening the ground and killing them.
 
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carpetmanswife

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#53
You are welcome to step on my toes as much as you like. I do not need them as I stand in Jesus Christ.
In this thread I do not speak to those times when we must in Jesus Christ go to another over a true concern in faith.
I speak to those times in which any of us falls into speaking for ourselves and building ourselves in pride.
When did Jesus and to whom did Jesus show anger over the teachings of the word.
I speak to those that may forget as I know even I do that all of us are simply learning and that to encourage is an effective tool.
This thread was to remind each and every one of us that none are above another.
Also that Jesus loved us first, he healed first, he taught first.
It is in the love of Jesus that we learn, act teach. All we do is from him and of him.
It is not correction or true rebuke that is at issue here.
What is spoken of in this thread is the concern over the abuse.
One last point, how much time I spend here is not of your concern ,but that of Our Lord Jesus and my responcibuilities. I say this so you will know how foolish we can be some times.
I am disabled, I am homebound much of the time because of this. I used to reject the computer because I saw no use for it.
But because so few visit the sick anymore I looked into a christian chatroom.
Then God Our Father blessed me with a way to serve him.
Not just to learn but to witness to others that seek him.
Then he called me to pray for all that ask and even those that do not.
I discovered that even in serving Our Lord Jesus he still blesses us.
To give my time in prayer for others is a service that I am humbled to do.
Once I log off here God grants me a least 1 to 3 hours in prayer for others and talking with him.
That does not include the many times each day that he reminds me to pray again.
Normally I would have said nothing about this.
But Jesus put this on my heart for you to know.
In the love Of Our Lord Jesus, God bless, pickles
i admire the time and commitment you have towards prayer , plz call out my name* Denise* and remember my family during your prayer time :)
 
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miktre

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#54
Recently in another thread, someone who professes to be a pastor or preacher of some sort began to publically denounce the salvation of others simply did not agree with his doctrine.
We have gotten past that and moved on so bringing it up again is no profit. I just read this and I will do my best to keep the conversation more Christ like in manner. Anger is a natural emotion though:
5And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.


While this thread is not to debate or discuss that doctrine, others who share that doctrine started jumping on the boat saying that if you don't have the faith to believe this way then you do not have the faith to be saved. - The funny thing is that anyone could have just as easily turned their own point around on them and said that if they did not have the faith to believe that God could save someone and work in their despite the fact that these people do not believe the same way as they do, this lack of faith could be a sign they do not have the faith to be saved as well. However, seeing as I neither believe that or want to sound self righteous as they do by making such claims, we'll put an end to that accusation now.
I think we all believe that each other are saved. Now can the tribulation effect your salvation? I believe it can.

Anyhow, my first question to you is:

If someone truly believes in Christ for their salvation, that Christ came to this earth to die on a cross for our sins and that in order to be saved we must believe in him and him alone for our salvation, what gives you the right to proclaim that anyone else is unsaved?
I think it was said in the heat of the moment by someone. Should we hold them to this saying or keep bringing it up if he has repented?

My second question, by criticisizing and alienating those who believe very simular to you yet may disagree on a few small points, do you not realize or even care that you are possibly doing more damage to the Body of Christ as a whole thus you could be percieved by God and others as "a worker of iniquity"?
You could be perceived by God as a worker of iniquity for this very thread. I doubt it though. We are very passionate about the word of God. We have posted many scriptures to keep each other in check, whether those things were so. Is that a worker of iniquity, when all the nasty stuff is going on in the world? Did Christ speak empty words when He spoke so much of these last days? As few words as we got from Christ I don't think He wasted one word, for He foretold us all things. I've seen alot of those that post in here post in that very thread saying basically "I don't care" Is that what Christ taught? No he said take heed do you take heed or do you not care?
5And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

Do you care about the parable of the ten virgins?
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Do some of them lose their salvation?

He commanded us to learn the the parable of the fig tree, should we not learn it?
He commanded us to watch, should we sleep?
He commanded us to take heed, should we care?

I know this is not you but others say we shouldn't concern ourselves with such things.

My third question, do you not realize that by insisting that no one can be saved unless they believe as you do, that others may begin to look at you not as loving christians but as heretical and dangerous cult such as Jahova's Witnesses and Mormons have been viewed as over the last several centuries?
This is a quite the exaggeration. We have gotten a little heated over there, but to say this is not accurate.
I will do my best to keep it more civilized and not so harsh, I apologize to all those whom it offended, we will try harder to be more loving.

I believe all those that post on the rapture thread truly love Christ.
I'm going to ask admin to change the name of the thread so it doesn't seem quite as hostile.

Peace unto you in Jesus Christ
 
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ChristsArmorBearer

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#55
I wonder if you take in the consideration
of the APOSTLE PAUL and the DISCIPLES
including the first MARTYR STEPHEN
and their BOLDNESS to construct and face diversity head on
what they were to think about
A THREAD
dedicated to WHINY CHRISTIANS
crying about
what is and what is not........
AFTER the diversities these great men and women
faced and struggled through without WHINING
we read about in the BIBLE
makes you think
they WOULD NOT spend all day on a computer
and complain about someone stepped on my toes
I BETTER GATHER the rest of the chickens
and form an alliance
so we can CRY TOGETHER
in our DEFEATED CHRISTIANITY
WALK WE HAVE IN GOD

COME ON.......
BE REAL..........

I could dig far deeper into this, exposing not only doctrinal error but also historical atrocities, but I won't. I would much rather appeal to their heart and their sense of reason. To treat them in the same manner that they have treated others would only serve to make me out to be hypocrite.

With that being said, chill out man. Your macho routine isn't impressing anyone.
 
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ChristsArmorBearer

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#56
Recently in another thread, someone who professes to be a pastor or preacher of some sort began to publically denounce the salvation of others simply did not agree with his doctrine.
We have gotten past that and moved on so bringing it up again is no profit. I just read this and I will do my best to keep the conversation more Christ like in manner. Anger is a natural emotion though:
5And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.


While this thread is not to debate or discuss that doctrine, others who share that doctrine started jumping on the boat saying that if you don't have the faith to believe this way then you do not have the faith to be saved. - The funny thing is that anyone could have just as easily turned their own point around on them and said that if they did not have the faith to believe that God could save someone and work in their despite the fact that these people do not believe the same way as they do, this lack of faith could be a sign they do not have the faith to be saved as well. However, seeing as I neither believe that or want to sound self righteous as they do by making such claims, we'll put an end to that accusation now.
I think we all believe that each other are saved. Now can the tribulation effect your salvation? I believe it can.

Anyhow, my first question to you is:

If someone truly believes in Christ for their salvation, that Christ came to this earth to die on a cross for our sins and that in order to be saved we must believe in him and him alone for our salvation, what gives you the right to proclaim that anyone else is unsaved?
I think it was said in the heat of the moment by someone. Should we hold them to this saying or keep bringing it up if he has repented?

My second question, by criticisizing and alienating those who believe very simular to you yet may disagree on a few small points, do you not realize or even care that you are possibly doing more damage to the Body of Christ as a whole thus you could be percieved by God and others as "a worker of iniquity"?
You could be perceived by God as a worker of iniquity for this very thread. I doubt it though. We are very passionate about the word of God. We have posted many scriptures to keep each other in check, whether those things were so. Is that a worker of iniquity, when all the nasty stuff is going on in the world? Did Christ speak empty words when He spoke so much of these last days? As few words as we got from Christ I don't think He wasted one word, for He foretold us all things. I've seen alot of those that post in here post in that very thread saying basically "I don't care" Is that what Christ taught? No he said take heed do you take heed or do you not care?
5And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

Do you care about the parable of the ten virgins?
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Do some of them lose their salvation?

He commanded us to learn the the parable of the fig tree, should we not learn it?
He commanded us to watch, should we sleep?
He commanded us to take heed, should we care?
I know this is not you but others say we shouldn't concern ourselves with such things.

My third question, do you not realize that by insisting that no one can be saved unless they believe as you do, that others may begin to look at you not as loving christians but as heretical and dangerous cult such as Jahova's Witnesses and Mormons have been viewed as over the last several centuries?
This is a quite the exaggeration. We have gotten a little heated over there, but to say this is not accurate.
I will do my best to keep it more civilized and not so harsh, I apologize to all those whom it offended, we will try harder to be more loving.
I believe all those that post on the rapture thread truly love Christ.
I'm going to ask admin to change the name of the thread so it doesn't seem quite as hostile.

Peace unto you in Jesus Christ
Sorry Miktre but this convo has absolutely nothing to do with any thread involving the rapture.
 
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miktre

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Sorry Miktre but this convo has absolutely nothing to do with any thread involving the rapture.
OK, because there were some similar things said there and it was highly alluded to by other posters in here. This is good news, I guess we will leave it a mystery thread.;) I do stand by my post for those who though it meant to be the rapture thread also.
 

VW

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YES
I BELIEVE
when Moses stood in that GAP
HE aslo said
DID YOU FORGET
WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR YOU???

and as you see when they kept complaining GOD swallowed them up
by opening the ground and killing them.

And God said of Moses that he was humble above all men, such that He (God) spoke to him (Moses) mouth to mouth (face to face.) A very good thing for me to remember.

In His peace,
 
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miktre

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#59
Sorry Miktre but this convo has absolutely nothing to do with any thread involving the rapture.
Ooops forgot to apologize,
I was mistaken in thinking you were talking about the rapture thread but I guess we needed to hear that too. You made some very good points, I don't think people should judge whether someone is saved and if they were to die today go to hell for believing any doctrine. If they believe in Christ and the work He did then and repent, they are saved.
I hope you didn't take offence to my response because I believe others that have posted in your thread needed to hear what I had to say concerning caring about endtime scripture.
 
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Beautiful Pickles... I am with carpetmans wife in the request that you include my family in your prayers. I know you already have & I thank you for that. You truly have a Mary heart & we are blessed to have you here.
 
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